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Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:40 pm

Bulut needs to go we all know that it's been a shit show

But the biggest issue is the ones in power constantly hiring and firing useless managers, bringing in absolute shit players or ones nobody else wants.

But also us fans we have failed as fans to stop the rot, if a player does terrible he gets dropped/sold if a manager does terrible he gets the sacked, if the owner does bad we are supposed to come together to demand change!

But there is just no togetherness no more when do we say enough is enough? How many more years can we all sit and watch our club fail us year after year?

We spend alot of money and time supporting our club. We deserve more and I think we should all come together and demand change at the top! Time and time again we have been sold broken promises, enough is enough now I think we all need to force them out.

I speak to so many who agree that the owner needs to go yet never collectively want to speak out why? Tan has to go for the better of our club.

No way would this be allowed years ago a dictator destroying our club it would be murder

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:44 pm

kyle08 wrote:Bulut needs to go we all know that it's been a shit show

But the biggest issue is the ones in power constantly hiring and firing useless managers, bringing in absolute shit players or ones nobody else wants.

But also us fans we have failed as fans to stop the rot, if a player does terrible he gets dropped/sold if a manager does terrible he gets the sacked, if the owner does bad we are supposed to come together to demand change!

But there is just no togetherness no more when do we say enough is enough? How many more years can we all sit and watch our club fail us year after year?

We spend alot of money and time supporting our club. We deserve more and I think we should all come together and demand change at the top! Time and time again we have been sold broken promises, enough is enough now I think we all need to force them out.

I speak to so many who agree that the owner needs to go yet never collectively want to speak out why? Tan has to go for the better of our club.

No way would this be allowed years ago a dictator destroying our club it would be murder


This is exactly where the problem lies ,
If only tan had sold the club before the season like he was meant to , until he sells we r fucked

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:49 pm

So this is Tan's fault?????????????

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:57 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:So this is Tan's fault?????????????


Yes absolutely, should of sold ages ago

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:03 pm

There are a lot of things I can thing of to blame him for but he didn't pick the team or the tactics, not even sure he wanted Bulut but yeah keep blaming Tan if it makes you feel better.

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:05 pm

Let's face facts, some of the same people now saying for bulut to go are the same people that had a go at the club earlier in the pre season for not getting bulut signed up quicker, that includes you , the club has backed bulut in his signings and bulut has totally cocked it up. Remember bulut is dalmans pick ! .

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:12 pm

Of course it's tans fault, the players that has joined the club has been freebies and loans. The managers he keeps hiring and firing has been shocking

When a football club is doing absolutely shit season after season you have to aim the scope at the very top!

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:16 pm

wez1927 wrote:Let's face facts, some of the same people now saying for bulut to go are the same people that had a go at the club earlier in the pre season for not getting bulut signed up quicker, that includes you , the club has backed bulut in his signings and bulut has totally cocked it up. Remember bulut is dalmans pick ! .



I've supported him I've made that known, but tan hadn't backed him really has he ? Where is the the quality signings they are mostly cheap or freebies.

Who employs dalman?

Bulut said we where relaxed getting players in meaning they didn't really try hard and you can clearly see that from what we have at the club

Apart from the magic of warnock he has failed as an owner for the past 10 years, paying stupid wages to shite and employing more clowns to run the club

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:21 pm

It’s been like it for years , even when we got promoted , wasn’t run properly,
I wanted bulut cos thought he was better than who tan would of picked but was wrong
All this only leads up to one person

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:29 pm

Richy roofer ccfc wrote:It’s been like it for years , even when we got promoted , wasn’t run properly,
I wanted bulut cos thought he was better than who tan would of picked but was wrong
All this only leads up to one person


This is the thing people always want players sold or the managers rightly so.

But when an owner makes the same mistakes over and over its ok ? I just don't get it

I always get told "but he helps fund the club" yet its his terrible management as to why he has to fund us that way....we are still in debt too

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:36 pm

Freebies Or loans the players we have are more than a match for most teams in this league.... its simply tactics that are causing the problems and thats not tans fault or dalmans or even the tea lady's for that matter.... do I trust them to get decent replacement not really but you hope previous cheap options have taught them a lesson and we'll get in someone who understands the championship the hardest league in the world to play in.
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Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:36 pm

kyle08 wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:It’s been like it for years , even when we got promoted , wasn’t run properly,
I wanted bulut cos thought he was better than who tan would of picked but was wrong
All this only leads up to one person


This is the thing people always want players sold or the managers rightly so.

But when an owner makes the same mistakes over and over its ok ? I just don't get it

I always get told "but he helps fund the club" yet its his terrible management as to why he has to fund us that way....we are still in debt too


Nobody has said it's okay. Like I said already I could find a whole books worth of stuff to blame him for but you want to blame him for Bulut when the general consensus is that he wasn't Tan's choice but Dalman's.

Unless you have a few hundred million in the bank & can buy the club then it's going to remain his & no amount of blaming him for everything from the way the club is run to the weather isn't going to change anything.

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:41 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
kyle08 wrote:
Richy roofer ccfc wrote:It’s been like it for years , even when we got promoted , wasn’t run properly,
I wanted bulut cos thought he was better than who tan would of picked but was wrong
All this only leads up to one person


This is the thing people always want players sold or the managers rightly so.

But when an owner makes the same mistakes over and over its ok ? I just don't get it

I always get told "but he helps fund the club" yet its his terrible management as to why he has to fund us that way....we are still in debt too


Nobody has said it's okay. Like I said already I could find a whole books worth of stuff to blame him for but you want to blame him for Bulut when the general consensus is that he wasn't Tan's choice but Dalman's.

Unless you have a few hundred million in the bank & can buy the club then it's going to remain his & no amount of blaming him for everything from the way the club is run to the weather isn't going to change anything.



I agree moaning won't work but if collectively we all got together and demanded he really invest or walk we will be heard eventually

I blame tan because this mess is years in the making, there is plenty of quality managers who would love the job but he never seems keen on managers who are proven or like to run the team how they want too

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:56 pm

We’re not run properly, this is obvious and I’d be happier than most to ever see Tan’s smug dictator face again…..but……the players and the manager are to blame for this.

Another manager, with a shred of tactical ability would get this team playing much better.

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:02 pm

I blame cocaine, alcohol and a belligerent "Fcuk'em" attitude of the away fans and Canton stand.

Rotherham should have been a wake up call, but the hard corp, die-hards "wanted him to stay!!!!!" What should have Tan done?

On here we were 50/50, a bit more Bulut out on the other one and i don't do twitter or facebook.

Lamouchi & Sol done enough for me and i wanted them, but the thought of a youngish German manager had me excited until Christmas and i started listening to the voice in my head telling me this is shit.

Relegation won't cost me a penny, Tan on the other hand......

Re: Let's face facts here

Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:30 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I blame cocaine, alcohol and a belligerent "Fcuk'em" attitude of the away fans and Canton stand.

Rotherham should have been a wake up call, but the hard corp, die-hards "wanted him to stay!!!!!" What should have Tan done?

On here we were 50/50, a bit more Bulut out on the other one and i don't do twitter or facebook.

Lamouchi & Sol done enough for me and i wanted them, but the thought of a youngish German manager had me excited until Christmas and i started listening to the voice in my head telling me this is shit.

Relegation won't cost me a penny, Tan on the other hand......


I totally agree Lamouchi & Sol brought passion and the drive that we needed and the fact he got let go was because Lamouchi spoke his mind, tan don't like people talking back and not being a yes man