Back down to earth - will people never learn?

Can't really believe some are now saying give Riza the job. Some are the same people who criticised the club in the last week for not appointing a manager.

That is just being fickle unfortunately and I don't like using that word.

Give him the next few games, yes, but let's not talk about giving him the job permanently yet.

Have we not learnt from the past?

Caretaker managers have done well before but when they get the job, things fall apart.

Have things improved? Yes, but that's not difficult.

Look at the teams we've beaten - Millwall, Plymouth and Portsmouth. They're 20th, 21st and 24th.

Our next four are - West Brom (5th), Norwich (7th), Luton (18th) and Blackburn (6th).

Then it's the international break.

So look at where we are then and how we're playing.

We have played very well against two very poor teams this week.

Let's not make any rash decisions based on that.

100% agree m8

I fully agree

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This post is the reality, take a look back at the past , Sanity from Worcester.

Whilst agree about the job on permanent basis as I put elsewhere those clubs mentioned would have been targeting wins against us? We've gone from 0 to 100 in 5 games quite remarkable really.... I expect us to be up down until break then it's case see where we are not so much league position but results wise because once down there it takes more than couple games to change that

Don’t disagree that an appointment now to full time is not required I would point out that those teams mention thou poor were in higher positions when we played them So a little credit as we were the bottom team in the division when we played two of them
So far this season we have lost to the teams that are currently in the top 3 places so it will be interesting to see how we go over the next 4 games
It will be interesting to see if we can cause the better teams an issue with our style of play. Whatever it will be better than what we saw in bulut era of playing not to lose and that tactic did not go well

Absolutely agree.

What I will say however is that the players certainly seem to have bought in to Riza's approach and it must be very refreshing for them to be given the freedom to express themselves in a system that they obviously feel more comfortable with.

The players don't seem to have a problem with the change of management.

Madness to give him the job full time now. Are people actually saying that?

As I said in an earlier post, let it roll as it is, its vastly improved (though Mike Bassett could have been an improvement on Bulut) lets see the next 4 games, against tougher opponents. If this bounce continues through that, that will be impressive, and will deserve until January or end of season rather than upset the vibes, while we continue to interview prospects. Or if the Bilic in January rumours are to be believed until then. My two of N Jones and Schumacher are clearly off the radar.

Can't really believe some are now querying whether Riza is up to the job. Some are the same people who criticised the club in May for taking so long over not appointing Bulit as manager.

I am not saying give him a contract now, but as he is under contract here until June 2025, why not at least acknowledge he is doing a good job and give him some credit for it, just saying.

Madness to give him the job full time now. Are people actually saying that?

As I said in an earlier post, let it roll as it is, its vastly improved (though Mike Bassett could have been an improvement on Bulut) lets see the next 4 games, against tougher opponents. If this bounce continues through that, that will be impressive, and will deserve until January or end of season rather than upset the vibes, while we continue to interview prospects. Or if the Bilic in January rumours are to be believed until then. My two of N Jones and Schumacher are clearly off the radar.

Some are saying give it to him until the end of the season, I say it's far too early for that. That would be giving him the job.

I do agree with others that the players have bought into the style and it is working at the moment.

These next four are key, if he gets a couple more wins from them then his position will be much stronger.

Problem is the useless 3 Amigos have had 5 weeks to find a replacement Manager and have come up with nobody!!!

The team has proved it is a decent Championship squad which could easily be top 6 with a proper Manager unfortunately I have absolutely no faith whatsoever that Tan and his sidekicks are going to appoint one and it will be yet another wasted season!!

Madness to give him the job full time now. Are people actually saying that?

As I said in an earlier post, let it roll as it is, its vastly improved (though Mike Bassett could have been an improvement on Bulut) lets see the next 4 games, against tougher opponents. If this bounce continues through that, that will be impressive, and will deserve until January or end of season rather than upset the vibes, while we continue to interview prospects. Or if the Bilic in January rumours are to be believed until then. My two of N Jones and Schumacher are clearly off the radar.

Some are saying give it to him until the end of the season, I say it's far too early for that. That would be giving him the job.

I do agree with others that the players have bought into the style and it is working at the moment.

These next four are key, if he gets a couple more wins from them then his position will be much stronger.

Its such a Tan appointment though isnt it?!! Its about time he got one right! Every department on the field has improved, and its brought a smile back to our faces, I can see Tan giving him the season if we avoid defeat at WBA.

We've not been brought back down to earth yet - like you say, let's see where we are after the next 4 matches.

I think if there's any overreaction to recent results and a clamour (I haven't seen one) to give him the job, part of the reason might be that supporters have been totally worn down by a couple of seasons of abject football - I'd include myself in feeling that way as the past couple of matches have lifted a massive cloud from us, due to the nature of the football and seeing some goals scored!

Agree, Riza has done well to get us out of the relegation places. Let's see how the next four games pan out. If he can get 6 points from these four games then he deserves a contract as the manager until the end of the season.

Don’t think he deserves it right now, but he’s certainly edging closer to it.

If he is able to carry on the style of football with decent results then sure. He does deserve a few more games right now though.

The players are on his side, someone else coming in there is no guarantee that the players will get on with them, or buy in to what they try to do.

There is also no guarantee that an experienced manager would do better, look at Mad Mick for example.

If we lose one nil to high flying West Brom, then people will post ‘see he can’t do it when it’s a team in the top half’ - he deserves a fair few games against top half teams also.

Can't really believe some are now saying give Riza the job. Some are the same people who criticised the club in the last week for not appointing a manager.

That is just being fickle unfortunately and I don't like using that word.

Give him the next few games, yes, but let's not talk about giving him the job permanently yet.

Have we not learnt from the past?

Caretaker managers have done well before but when they get the job, things fall apart.

Have things improved? Yes, but that's not difficult.

Look at the teams we've beaten - Millwall, Plymouth and Portsmouth. They're 20th, 21st and 24th.

Our next four are - West Brom (5th), Norwich (7th), Luton (18th) and Blackburn (6th).

Then it's the international break.

So look at where we are then and how we're playing.

We have played very well against two very poor teams this week.

Let's not make any rash decisions based on that.

100% agree no need to rush and maybe a better manager will become available

Can't really believe some are now saying give Riza the job. Some are the same people who criticised the club in the last week for not appointing a manager.

That is just being fickle unfortunately and I don't like using that word.

Give him the next few games, yes, but let's not talk about giving him the job permanently yet.

Have we not learnt from the past?

Caretaker managers have done well before but when they get the job, things fall apart.

Have things improved? Yes, but that's not difficult.

Look at the teams we've beaten - Millwall, Plymouth and Portsmouth. They're 20th, 21st and 24th.

Our next four are - West Brom (5th), Norwich (7th), Luton (18th) and Blackburn (6th).

Then it's the international break.

So look at where we are then and how we're playing.

We have played very well against two very poor teams this week.

Let's not make any rash decisions based on that.

100% agree no need to rush and maybe a better manager will become available

Another manager may not be required at this rate, Wez…

However, as much as I want him to succeed after his electric start, Ned is 100% correct in saying that there is absolutely no rush to make a decision right now…

Omer Riza is so far siezing his opportunity with both hands; the team are improving, the style of play is improving, the results and league position are improving. He (Riza) desperately wants the job, he is in prime position as it stands, and I don’t think even our owner would rush to replace him right now; particularly as he (Riza) was his (VT’s) preference from the day of Bulut’s departure…


Let’s just see how it all develops and if Omer Riza is to get the job permanently, it should be for all the right reasons…

So far so good and long may it continue…!

Agree

It will be intersting how he plays the next game
I for one would play the same way 11 men versus 11 men on a football pitch it should' nt matter home or away its just the fans ,
but fear he will be more defensive and this is where we will come unstuck imo the players have got used to playing tbis attachment ing style if its changed to much i fear its going t.ts up.

Totally agree, he has definitely improved us but I personally think Bulut had lost the dressing room, Riza has taken the shackles off and it’s obviously given us a new lease of life. I wouldn’t jump in to anything, the next appointment must be the right one, whether Riza does enough to earn it full time we will see.

Need to see how we do over the next 4 games.

Defo warming to the idea of letting him continue till the end of the season...but the next 4 games gives us 3 teams in the top half as well as recently relegated Luton.

Brilliant test for Riza and the boys to see where we really are.

If we can get maybe 5+ points where we nick a win and grind out 2 draws (and the team show the fight nd passion we've all craved)...I'd give him till the end of the season.

Riza has done a great job so far..far better than boring whinger bullutt..I'd sooner give it to riza who knows the players and how to set them up..been waiting for someone to release their shackles..loving it so far..riza is young and adventurous..I'd love to see him given the chance

Agree with OP, four more games and we can see if there is any progress with the results.
Personally I think we ought to be a bit more ambitious with a manager who has experience.
However if Riza gets results and the players are happy to play for him, then team spirit can count for a lot.
I've got a feeling though that Tan will do things on the cheap and save money not getting in experience.

I agree we need to be more cautious but what I’ve seen with Riza is something I didn’t see from other caretakers.

He’s totally changed our style of play and we could have easily beaten Pompey by 5 as we did Plymouth.

I do agree that we should wait until the next international break though. Saturdays game will tell us a lot.

Top post Ned, I Totally agree with you

Madness to give him the job already, don’t we ever learn??

What’s gutting not many managers want the job.

Personally I would wait and see until January, then if we continue to improve, give him to the end of the season at best.

Cardiff can't rush into giving the job to anyone yet, Riza is there ATM give him until the New year and if we are progressing in the right direction, then give him a short contract, it will keep him wanting success and not taking is foot off the gas.

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I’d give him until Christmas, if we start losing again, get a more experienced manager in before the transfer window. It’ll give them enough time to keep us from relegation…

It’s a fair post but one I don’t buy in to totally,I give him a two year deal now which should give him and the players even more confidence and hopefully get even better with time.
Surely if there was any good experienced managers that wanted the job we would have tried to get them by now.

If we do appoint another manager we will probably lose Riza which would be ashame in my eyes.

Unbelievable

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100% agree hold fire