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Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:09 am
Glen Williams Media Wales is pushing like mad for Omer Riza to get the full-time job already.
This will Suit The Hierarchy, One because NO Big name or experienced Championship manager wants the job.
Two He’s cheap.
Three he already loves Tan and Tan loves that.
Four the backroom staff are Cheap, but in my view very inexperienced.
But Cardiff have been down this root before and in this situation.
Just 2 of many Steve Morison and Mark Hudson were both handed the job permanently on the back of promising interim spells. Both ran out of steam, and a similar cycle cannot be allowed to repeat itself this time around.
Glen Williams pushed for those names big time.
If Riza is going to get the job full, let’s keep him hungry and take it a few matches at a time against much better opposition.
Personally I would not give him the job permanently until after Xmas then decide and that would only be till May.
We have been biten badly so many times and Riza is so inexperienced and so to is his backroom staff.
Let’s just monitor Riza for quite a while yet.
We must learn by previous mistakes.
Plus many are fed up of just wanting safety mid table at best.
WHERE ARE OUR SO CALLED FUTURE PLANS / THE HIERARCHY KEEP SAYING ARE IN PLACE ?
We keep hearing year after year Big plans.
We have beaten Plymouth and Portsmouth.
The Real Tests are to come and not just WBA.
The club seemingly having no one lined up to take the reins.
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Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:34 am
I totally agree.
Leave it until the next international break at least.
People have short memories it seems but this is a similar case to Hudson, Morison etc.
I will not be surprised if Riza gets the job because he's the cheapest option but I say it is far too soon to give him the job yet.
If he continues to get results then he will have more of a claim to get the job but these two wins were against two of the worst teams in the league.
Big test on Saturday, let's see how he does then and the other tough games ahead.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:46 am
We are all nervous about having a Morison/Hudson repeat.
This time it does feel more realistic to improve us. Morison changed our style and it just did not take off. Riza style has taken off and the next few games will hopefully consolidate that. He certainly has put himself in the shop window for the job.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:51 am
Oh God here we go again
Will they never learn!
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:52 am
Bakedalasker wrote:We are all nervous about having a Morison/Hudson repeat.
This time it does feel more realistic to improve us. Morison changed our style and it just did not take off. Riza style has taken off and the next few games will hopefully consolidate that. He certainly has put himself in the shop window for the job.
Let's judge him after four more games, against some quite good teams, not the relegation fodder.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:58 am
Bluebina wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:We are all nervous about having a Morison/Hudson repeat.
This time it does feel more realistic to improve us. Morison changed our style and it just did not take off. Riza style has taken off and the next few games will hopefully consolidate that. He certainly has put himself in the shop window for the job.
Let's judge him after four more games, against some quite good teams, not the relegation fodder.
To those relegation fodder teams we were undoubtedly bigger relegation fodder to be beaten...... People seem to forget how bad we were before riza stepped in... let's just keep it the way it is until the break at least.....
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:00 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:I totally agree.
Leave it until the next international break at least.
People have short memories it seems but this is a similar case to Hudson, Morison etc.
I will not be surprised if Riza gets the job because he's the cheapest option but I say it is far too soon to give him the job yet.
If he continues to get results then he will have more of a claim to get the job but these two wins were against two of the worst teams in the league.
Big test on Saturday, let's see how he does then and the other tough games ahead.
All well and good, but if as Annis say's no-one half decent wants the job, what then?
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:06 pm
100% agree. He’s done well but if we get only a few points in the next 2 difficult games we will be in the bottom 3 again and possibly bottom. Williams is yet again doing Dalman’s bidding. He is a useless reporter.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:07 pm
SBF1 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I totally agree.
Leave it until the next international break at least.
People have short memories it seems but this is a similar case to Hudson, Morison etc.
I will not be surprised if Riza gets the job because he's the cheapest option but I say it is far too soon to give him the job yet.
If he continues to get results then he will have more of a claim to get the job but these two wins were against two of the worst teams in the league.
Big test on Saturday, let's see how he does then and the other tough games ahead.
All well and good, but if as Annis say's no-one half decent wants the job, what then?
He said it's the club's line than nobody decent wants the job, that doesn't make it true.
There has been interest by decent managers but the truth is that the club don't want to pay their high wages.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:09 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:SBF1 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:I totally agree.
Leave it until the next international break at least.
People have short memories it seems but this is a similar case to Hudson, Morison etc.
I will not be surprised if Riza gets the job because he's the cheapest option but I say it is far too soon to give him the job yet.
If he continues to get results then he will have more of a claim to get the job but these two wins were against two of the worst teams in the league.
Big test on Saturday, let's see how he does then and the other tough games ahead.
All well and good, but if as Annis say's no-one half decent wants the job, what then?
He said it's the club's line than nobody decent wants the job, that doesn't make it true.
There has been interest by decent managers but the truth is that the club don't want to pay their high wages.
Your Spot on Ned.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:17 pm
Annis, Glenn Williams lost any investment in the conversation as soon as his Steve Morison ‘
support’ was mentioned…!
Beyond that, I agree with you that the club needs to be very careful of another ‘
knee-jerk’ reaction that sees the club a little ‘
star-struck’ over a period of ‘
positive’ results after the opening period disaster that was Erol Bulut’s to ‘
own’
Omer Riza has done very well and deserves the opportunity to show whether or not he can maintain the upturn. Everyone involved (owner, players, supporters) appear ‘
happy’ at the way things are going, which currently means that there is no mad rush to change things either way…
If Omer Riza continues to do well, the rewards will come for him, the club and the supporters…!
Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:54 pm
It's going to take another 5 or 6 games to see where we are? Must not forget when he took over it was 1point going nowhere but down! For next couple games we'll probably bounce about bottom 3 unless we do win next two games.... once in bottom 3 takes a lot to get away from it so upto now he's doing just that but can't win all the games until the break can he? As for no decent coach wants the job what a load of bollocks.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:50 pm
Review it after the next international break
Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:57 pm
I dont see the need to rush into anything. It is clear that he is getting the bet out of this side at the moment and has dug us out of the immediate crises. Cant see us going down under him. Is he good enough to take us forward? No one knows but unless an outstanding candidate throws his hat int the ring i would let him carry on until Christmas
Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:30 pm
As others have said there's no rush to do anything at the moment, take the time & get it right rather than rush into appointing someone, either Riza or anyone else.
He's contracted with us anyway so it's not like he's going anywhere.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:35 pm
I asked Glen this but he refused to reply???
OMER RIZA IS ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT TILL JUNE 2025 / AS AN ASSISTANT MANAGER / JUST LEAVE IT TILL THEN AND JUST GIVE BONUSES TILL THEN & THEN DECIDE :
Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:11 pm
We beat West Brom then he deserves a year contract in my opinion. Home games against clubs we should beat doesn’t mean as much as a strong away win. Really interested to see what happens Saturday.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 5:12 pm
Underhill1927 wrote:We beat West Brom then he deserves a year contract in my opinion. Home games against clubs we should beat doesn’t mean as much as a strong away win. Really interested to see what happens Saturday.
WBA , Simon have not Won for 5 games.
He has a contract till June 2025
No hurry just give him bonuses
Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:07 pm
Annis the way I read that is that the hierarchy have made their minds up and want Riza, so Dalman is pushing out the narrative via Glen as he always does.
Therefore laying the seeds for Riza to be appointed in the press so that most fans have come around to the idea once they do.
Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:26 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Underhill1927 wrote:We beat West Brom then he deserves a year contract in my opinion. Home games against clubs we should beat doesn’t mean as much as a strong away win. Really interested to see what happens Saturday.
Still a tough place to go but I agree about the contract then. Missed that when I skim read.
WBA , Simon have not Won for 5 games.
He has a contract till June 2025
No hurry just give him bonuses
Thu Oct 24, 2024 10:10 pm
ORCHARD BLUEBIRD wrote:Review it after the next international break
Agree - I have been saying this a few weeks ago ...Before these 2 Wins .
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:15 pm
It’s still a definite no from me can’t quite put my finger on what’s wrong but it’s definitely he’s inexperienced and it shows a few times now with his subs people say he’s learning and yet he says he’s as experienced as anyone with 13/14 years coaching sorry he’s not for me maybe he will prove me wrong time will tell!!!
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:21 pm
Let's be honest, he's doing significantly better than we all thought, isn't he. Hindsight of "Pompey and Plymouth are crap" is great, but they still needed to get beaten and we dispatched of them with ease. Do we think we'd have scored 7 and conceded 0 against them with Bulut; probably not.
We now have a comfort blanket of the past 3 results, so no need to panic or do anything in my opinion.
If he wins the next 3 - earned.
If he loses the next 3 - go get a manager.
If it's somewhere in between where we're not sure; keep it rolling.
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:23 pm
You know how a new manager makes you excited and u think yeh he seems to know what he’s talking about with RIZA I’m not getting that at all no confidence in him
Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:28 pm
Also, listen to the players interviews.
Robbo - smiling and confident
Turnbull - "I now feel like a Cardiff player"
Rubin - "I am allowed to try things and accepted to make some mistakes"
I'm not saying give him the job (or not), but you can feel the difference already. It feels like a Bulut run team was grim experience.
Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:01 pm
Give him a few more games and see what happens
Fri Oct 25, 2024 10:37 pm
SB 1927 wrote:Also, listen to the players interviews.
Robbo - smiling and confident
Turnbull - "I now feel like a Cardiff player"
Rubin - "I am allowed to try things and accepted to make some mistakes"
I'm not saying give him the job (or not), but you can feel the difference already. It feels like a Bulut run team was grim experience.
Spot On - Things are different now in performance and the players words and results
Sat Oct 26, 2024 7:13 am
I have not met anyone who insists we need to give him the job now. Everyone is happy but let's wait and see. Let's be really truthful we are not going to get gazumped for his signature, he is on a trial that looks incredibly promising. I didn't realise he had done his time in the England youth setup, so knows his onions and some decent managers have trodden that path.
Morison and Hudson were just good ex-footballers who achieved very little in their new careers, at least he has done his time.
Its apparent that he see's the youth as the way out of this and its has paid off so far.
Its the time for a 1-2 punch. Go and get a DoF for the footballing side and let this bloke be head coach. Its tried and tested in the world of short-term head coach appointments. I look at it as head coaches are day-to-day tactics and DoF's are strategy. You get promoted or relegated on your recruitment and youth squads which is strategy and that's where we suffer.
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