Poll Would you give Riza longer?

I think Riza has surprised a lot of us.

Hes done a brilliant job, unbeaten in 5, attacking football, playing the players we all wanted to see.

Hes given us a bit of hope.

Would you give him more time? If so, how long?

Would you still replace with an 'experienced manager'?

Personally, I think he deserves longer.

Players are full of praise for him and full of confidence, I don't want to upset the apple cart at this moment in time when momentum is on our side.

Experience doesn't always matter either, as we've seen with Big Mick.

I'd give him until the end of the season.

On a monthly basis for me and see where we are at the turn of the year.

On a monthly basis for me and see where we are at the turn of the year.

Thats not a bad idea monty, and one Riza would be happy with as well I would imagine, as he would still be calling the shots.

I think he is a great coach, he has done a lot of youth stuff and U23 so IMO we need to keep him away from the business side so this would be a perfect opportunity for a DoF.

I'd stall until at least christmas, with the intention to give him 18 months after that.

I went for xmas but as he is already contracted to us give why not give him some juicy bonuses for wins and he can stay as interim until then. He has done really well so far but I feel we've been burnt too often lately & could be again if we give him a longer contract than he has at the moment.

Yup

He seems to be getting it right and has the confidence of the players and I cant see us going down with him. If we play well against Norwich then in the absence of any outstanding candidate I would give him to the end of the season to bring stability to the situation. We have to pay him anyway so it not like we will lose anything significant if things do go wrong in the meantime and we have to replace him.

IIRC he already has a contract until next year. It’s no biggie to top that up to account for a new role. If he was to be let go then it wouldn’t cost much more than it would have anyway.

Personally I think he’s done a fantastic job so far and has the players on board. A new manager will need to learn what he has at his disposal and may upset the AppleCart of a happy dressing room.

I have said for the last couple of weeks that we should review it at the November international break.

That's still my view.

In that time we have:


Norwich (h)
Luton (a)
Blackburn (h)


If we win all three of those then I would say it would be difficult for the club to not give him the job.

I said weeks ago that he would be in charge to the next International break - He for me needs to carry on past that date .

There s some good points made but i am still sceptical, it may be the players have been released from their defensive shackles and its the feel good bounce of a new head coach let's not rush into it, see we we are after the international break don t forget he still stubborn over Kanga and meite and won't include Reindorf

Still cannot see why people are saying wait until this, that, and the other, he has signed a contract till June 2025, so he is employed by us until then; we should pay him a manager wage while he is interim manager and if he continues like he is now then make him manager. If the results go against him, then he will revert to attacking coach as previously.

It's complicated, as he's definitely earned the right but as soon as we lose a couple on the bounce, which will happen, we'll be screaming for someone with experience.

Using my head, I think we should still go on the hunt for a permanent manager and then Riza hands over a team in good form and confidence and gets a thank you very much.

I'd 100% keep him as a constant going forward so when next manager gets sacked in around 6-14 months time, he can step in. Maybe then he is considered as the permanent candidate?

A few other things to consider:

A new manager, who hasn't worked with the squad, would have at least a one year contract, with no guarantee that it will work out - it could go tits up. We've seen it happen time and time again.

Baring that in mind, why would Riza have an extended probation?

A few other things to consider:

A new manager, who hasn't worked with the squad, would have at least a one year contract, with no guarantee that it will work out - it could go tits up. We've seen it happen time and time again.

Baring that in mind, why would Riza have an extended probation?

On the other hand, look what an inexperienced manager has done with the squad.

With an experienced manager, there's a fair chance we could do even better.

A few other things to consider:

A new manager, who hasn't worked with the squad, would have at least a one year contract, with no guarantee that it will work out - it could go tits up. We've seen it happen time and time again.

Baring that in mind, why would Riza have an extended probation?

On the other hand, look what an inexperienced manager has done with the squad.

With an experienced manager, there's a fair chance we could do even better.

Its a tough one, and if Tan did give Riza the job, then I wouldn't actually blame him.

I think if he did replace Riza, then it would have to be for an attack minded manager, not someone like Nathan Jones who sets up very defensively.

Leave Riza as Interim manager for now and keep monitoring until June 2025 when his contract runs out.

No hurry or panic

Review in Jan, doing a good job? Back him in transfer market even if its just a striker and maybe a loan or two. Give him a deal till the end of the year

If he done a good job end of the season, i be happy to see him get a 1 year deal.

Just keep it like it is until the end of the season.

Let him and the team know he's here all season, so they can just concentrate on getting us up the table.

Yes, but until the new year for now as the next transfer window is looming and we need to assess where we are to go forward. Or perhaps Mr Tan will be happy to keep him on as interim meaning not much [if any] budget for players. To be honest he is getting a tune out of the ones that Bulut couldn't so apart from the obvious striker situation then perhaps we are not really in the market for new signings until the summer.

A few other things to consider:

A new manager, who hasn't worked with the squad, would have at least a one year contract, with no guarantee that it will work out - it could go tits up. We've seen it happen time and time again.

Baring that in mind, why would Riza have an extended probation?

On the other hand, look what an inexperienced manager has done with the squad.

With an experienced manager, there's a fair chance we could do even better.

Whatever they do in the end it’s all a chance. Yes with an experienced manager there’s a fair chance they could do better but equally there’s a fair chance the players don’t get on with him and we do worse. Keep Riza on and the players feel so comfortable and don’t put in quite as much effort or they could keep going like now. We’ve had managers that have done well to start and then it’s all slipped away. I’d certainly give Riza till Christmas as I don’t go along with this experienced manager theory, all of them have to start somewhere, and he could just be an excellent head coach waiting for an opportunity.

A few other things to consider:

A new manager, who hasn't worked with the squad, would have at least a one year contract, with no guarantee that it will work out - it could go tits up. We've seen it happen time and time again.

Baring that in mind, why would Riza have an extended probation?

On the other hand, look what an inexperienced manager has done with the squad.

With an experienced manager, there's a fair chance we could do even better.

Whatever they do in the end it’s all a chance. Yes with an experienced manager there’s a fair chance they could do better but equally there’s a fair chance the players don’t get on with him and we do worse. Keep Riza on and the players feel so comfortable and don’t put in quite as much effort or they could keep going like now. We’ve had managers that have done well to start and then it’s all slipped away. I’d certainly give Riza till Christmas as I don’t go along with this experienced manager theory, all of them have to start somewhere, and he could just be an excellent head coach waiting for an opportunity.

Good post

If it isn't broken....

Feel sorry for him as the expectations are for him to win every game or face the accusation that's he's inexperienced and therefore get rid of him. The bar is being set so unfairly high for him. His treatment after the Bristol City game was really poor by some fans too. If he picks up a couple of wins in the next three games I'd give him until the end if the season. We are not going to trouble the promotion race this year but we need to be confident he will secure our Championship place and grow the youngsters for next year. This squad can mature into a top six side eventually.

Feel sorry for him as the expectations are for him to win every game or face the accusation that's he's inexperienced and therefore get rid of him. The bar is being set so unfairly high for him. His treatment after the Bristol City game was really poor by some fans too. If he picks up a couple of wins in the next three games I'd give him until the end if the season. We are not going to trouble the promotion race this year but we need to be confident he will secure our Championship place and grow the youngsters for next year. This squad can mature into a top six side eventually.

This is a great post.

The bar has been set so high, because in the past we have made some wrong hires.

Of the last 5, people have been saying how poor Plymouth, Pompey and Milwall have been.

If Steven Schumacher had been in charge of those 5 games, and had thr same results, I'm sure the posts would be along the lines of "This is what an experienced manager can do"

I have said 'until Christmas' but if things go badly before then and someone suitable becomes available Tan has to be flexible. Personally, I would like to see Riza succeed as I did with Bulut before him. It appears that Bulut may not have been great at man-management. Riza has been so far but will it continue? Hence my caution.

Keep this new positive direction rolling. Month to month. Safety first, learn lessons of the past. I still cannot believe they gave Bulut a 2 year contract as many posters on here were happy with. And fans still singing his name in his last game. He was a terrible football manager. We have to be more protective and concrete about dishing out contracts. If it continues into the window and beyond, we will all know when the moment will come when we collectively feel a contract is deserved and the right thing to do, theres a long way to go until then and very tough tests against better sides than Riza has faced to come.

However Riza deserves massive credit, I give him huge praise and congratulations for giving us all something to get excited about again after the Bulut apocalypse. Giving us the joy in finally seeing our players being allowed to play to their strengths and express themselves, its been liberating for them and us. They have been caged by Bulut, Riza has freed them into their natural habitat!

My underlying thought though throughout this lovely renaissance, is that if a guy whose only managerial experience was just one win in his seven games in charge of Leyton Orient, can get this response from Buluts players, what could a more talented and experienced manager do? The mind boggles!

But to hear the players waxing lyrical about Riza, has been so refreshing and should not be overlooked, this is massive, considering how Bulut coached the shit out of them.

Thank you Omer!

Really enjoyed the football since bullutt went..so I'd be happy with Omar to stay... people don't want to take a chance on him because he's not famous (call it snobbery if u like)..but in my eyes he's far more savvy than bullutt and knows the players who are responding big time...never understood what half the fans saw in bullet to be honest...always thought he was crap

Went for Xmas aswel monthly contract a lot of games still to play see how he goes