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One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Cardiff

Mon Oct 28, 2024 11:57 am

One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Cardiff City manager job, Slaven Bilic, has said he is ready to return to work.


Former Croatia boss Bilic has won promotion to the Premier League with West Brom and has international experience. He would certainly be considered a safe pair of hands in the eyes of many Championship Clubs.

The problem is Biluc would not be cheap and would want to bring in more quality players which would mean the current Hierarchy spending money, they do have money from the sale of McGuinness.

Bilic:

"At the moment I like it at home, but of course I'm ready to work," Bilic told our sister title BirminghamLive.

"I'm at a good age and part of me would work, but I'm waiting for a good opportunity. For the meantime, I am enjoying this. I am still working with [coaches] Danilo [Butorovic] and Dean [Racunica], I have good people around me."



Conversely, it would be Riza's first job as a permanent manager and has very little experience but owner Vincent Tan has a penchant for opting for young, unproven bosses who he can control.

And Riza's short tenure so far has yielded many positives, keeping the board happy and allowing them to take their time or even leave it as it is over what they do next with regards to Bulut's permanent successor.
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Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:25 pm

It’s absolutely ridiculous that 6 weeks after Bulut was sacked we are still nowhere near appointing a new full time manager

The 3 Clowns have absolutely no idea how to run a Football Club

Tan has lost a huge amount of money propping us up over the last 15 years but the losses are mainly because him, Dalman and Choo have never had a long term plan for the club and keep making the same mistakes year after year

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:41 pm

It’s not ridiculous when your interim manager has taken 11 points from the last 15 on offer.
Let’s see how it all unfolds.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 1:44 pm

Maybe he was one of the managers who were supposedly approached but turned us down?

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:08 pm

O need to do anything until the break.... but no smoke without fire eventually?

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:12 pm

Would still choose him ahead of Riza, despite our good form.

He has the experience needed in this league.

The club should be speaking to him.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:27 pm

spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:28 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Would still choose him ahead of Riza, despite our good form.

He has the experience needed in this league.

The club should be speaking to him.


I was under the impression that the club had spoken to him but there was an issue with him until January ?

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:36 pm

Welsh Exile wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Would still choose him ahead of Riza, despite our good form.

He has the experience needed in this league.

The club should be speaking to him.


I was under the impression that the club had spoken to him but there was an issue with him until January ?


Not according to Bilic in that quote, he's ready to return to work now.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:39 pm

oohahhPaulMillar wrote:It’s absolutely ridiculous that 6 weeks after Bulut was sacked we are still nowhere near appointing a new full time manager

The 3 Clowns have absolutely no idea how to run a Football Club

Tan has lost a huge amount of money propping us up over the last 15 years but the losses are mainly because him, Dalman and Choo have never had a long term plan for the club and keep making the same mistakes year after year


How is it ridiculous when Riza has got us to where we are at the moment, when he’s had to pick up the pieces left by Bulut?

Bit of a silly comment to be fair.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:41 pm

willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 2:42 pm

I'm sure he's ready as long as someone is willing to pay off his current contract, I would be too.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 3:49 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.



And the fact we missed two sitters and hit bar with header.. who stats don't tell whole story. :o

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:15 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.


He's right though, we didn't have a a shot on target.

I've said it was a good defensive performance and stand by that.

As I've said, people shouldn't get carried away by the form an interim manager has.

The whole point of an interim manager is for them to take charge until a more experienced manager can come in - not for them to take the job permanently.

I still favour a more experienced manager and if Bilic is available, would choose him over Riza every day of the week.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:33 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.


He's right though, we didn't have a a shot on target.

I've said it was a good defensive performance and stand by that.

As I've said, people shouldn't get carried away by the form an interim manager has.

The whole point of an interim manager is for them to take charge until a more experienced manager can come in - not for them to take the job permanently.

I still favour a more experienced manager and if Bilic is available, would choose him over Riza every day of the week.


We did hit the bar though and had some good chances.

Ultimately if the players miss sitters, then that falls on the ability of the players.

I was very keen on Bilic taking over, but now I'm not too sure.

Riza has done enough to warrant a chance until at least Christmas.

If our good form continues until the international break and he then gets replaced, that would be a major kick in the nuts for him I'd imagine.

I know we've been burned in the past, but equally, not all experienced managers will take us further or be successful

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 4:58 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.


He's right though, we didn't have a a shot on target.

I've said it was a good defensive performance and stand by that.

As I've said, people shouldn't get carried away by the form an interim manager has.

The whole point of an interim manager is for them to take charge until a more experienced manager can come in - not for them to take the job permanently.

I still favour a more experienced manager and if Bilic is available, would choose him over Riza every day of the week.


We did hit the bar though and had some good chances.

Ultimately if the players miss sitters, then that falls on the ability of the players.

I was very keen on Bilic taking over, but now I'm not too sure.

Riza has done enough to warrant a chance until at least Christmas.

If our good form continues until the international break and he then gets replaced, that would be a major kick in the nuts for him I'd imagine.

I know we've been burned in the past, but equally, not all experienced managers will take us further or be successful


I'm not going to fall into the trap of backing an interim manager.

Bilic all day long. Experience in the Championship and has been promoted from this league.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:02 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.


He's right though, we didn't have a a shot on target.

I've said it was a good defensive performance and stand by that.

As I've said, people shouldn't get carried away by the form an interim manager has.

The whole point of an interim manager is for them to take charge until a more experienced manager can come in - not for them to take the job permanently.

I still favour a more experienced manager and if Bilic is available, would choose him over Riza every day of the week.


It's a dilemma isn't it, do we appoint an experienced manager such as Bilic who is currently unemployed for a reason, whose CV started off briliantly (win ratio in the 60s) but hasn't exactly been the greatest of late (win ratio in the 30s), or do we go with an inexperienced manager who is doing very well, is well thought of by the players and is playing very attractive football.

We have had bad experiences of appointing experienced managers and bad experiences of appointing inexperienced managers. There are no guarantees when apponting a manager and do we risk letting Riza go when he has done little wrong in the hope that Bilic will comes good for us, just as we did with Bulut at the start of this season.

In looking for a new manager, Bilic was my choice of all the candidates that were being mentioned, but i'm enjoying the football under Riza and believe he deserves more of a chance, even if it risks us losing out on Bilic.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:23 pm

Don't matter who the manager is lose five games and the fans will want him sacked irrelevant of what his name is.

That's today's football fans

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 5:24 pm

bluelover wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
willhenry wrote:spot on Ned
we have beaten 2 very poor teams and failed to get one shot on target last saturday

we need experience


I like how mentioned how poor the two teams we beat were, but failed to mention that the team we didn’t get a shot on target against, was away against a team who are in the play offs, 3 points from the automatic spots. We got a point which was an achievement in itself.


He's right though, we didn't have a a shot on target.

I've said it was a good defensive performance and stand by that.

As I've said, people shouldn't get carried away by the form an interim manager has.

The whole point of an interim manager is for them to take charge until a more experienced manager can come in - not for them to take the job permanently.

I still favour a more experienced manager and if Bilic is available, would choose him over Riza every day of the week.


It's a dilemma isn't it, do we appoint an experienced manager such as Bilic who is currently unemployed for a reason, whose CV started off briliantly (win ratio in the 60s) but hasn't exactly been the greatest of late (win ratio in the 30s), or do we go with an inexperienced manager who is doing very well, is well thought of by the players and is playing very attractive football.

We have had bad experiences of appointing experienced managers and bad experiences of appointing inexperienced managers. There are no guarantees when apponting a manager and do we risk letting Riza go when he has done little wrong in the hope that Bilic will comes good for us, just as we did with Bulut at the start of this season.

In looking for a new manager, Bilic was my choice of all the candidates that were being mentioned, but i'm enjoying the football under Riza and believe he deserves more of a chance, even if it risks us losing out on Bilic.



Riza is contracted to club for another 18mnths? In reality ge just drops back into previous role unless promoted to assist 1st team coach? Safest thing leave until the break and then decide one way or other like u say no garauntee either way experience or inexperience

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:03 pm

In all fairness he is the best interim manager we have had. I would definitely give him longer he is playing some of the best football we've seen in 2 years, and with the January transfer window who knows.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:47 am

Give Riza the job now , if anyone can’t see this man is a perfect fit for us then I suggest stop watching football as you are wasting your own time .

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:17 am

Carpe Diem wrote:It’s not ridiculous when your interim manager has taken 11 points from the last 15 on offer.
Let’s see how it all unfolds.


Correct.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:38 pm

We had a poll on this and didn't most vote for keeping him until Christmas. Certainly many voted for this option including myself. Danny Gabbidon also takes the view that we should let Riza carry on and see how it goes. If things start to go pear shaped, that's when city should act but they should also be preparing for this eventuality. Christmas would be a good time to make the change just before the January window. But I really hope Riza is as good a fit as City are going to get. Only time will tell - but we shouldn't be rushing into anything - even though this may be frustrating for players, fans and manager.

Re: One of the bookmakers' favourites for the permanent Card

Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:07 am

If Bilic says he is ready now to take a job, then he isn't coming to us is he.

He will be snapped up before January, if not during January at the latest.

It was said on here recently that a number of managers have been spoken to, and 1 or 2 have said no themselves, if true I’d put a fiver on one of them being Bilic, its seems too coincidental that shortly after that was said he comes out and says he’s ready now.

Ideally we are all wrong and Bilic or whoever gets appointed in the next international break. Either that or they announce Riza till the end of the season, as being in limbo, of which we are, will sooner or later have a negative impact on Riza and consequently the players.