" Dereliction of duty not to give Riza the job "

Interesting analysis of Omer Riza's time in charge by George Elek and Ali Maxwell on the NTT20 podcast.

This is what they said:


GEORGE ELEK:


It's always hard to know how to know how much to credit a new manager with a sudden turnaround in form. With Cardiff, it's rare that you see one as obvious and pronounced as this.

His first game was a 4-1 defeat against Hull. Since then it's four wins and two draws, so six unbeaten coming off the back of a hench start to the season. It's night and day between Erol Bulut and Omer Riza. I'll focus on the last three wins.

5-0 against Plymouth was the first time we had to sit up and think this was a very different performance to what we'd see previously. 2.49 expected goals, 25 shots and 11 on target. We didn't see anything like that with Bulut.

However, Plymouth were down to ten man at 2-0 and Plymouth away from home are pretty much not a Championship team. So you could say that could have happened to anyone, credit to Riza for making it happen but you want to see more.

The 2-0 win against Pompey that came next was the most impressive. Again, Pompey are a team that have struggled this season so you've got to factor in the opposition.

But 2.72 expected goals, 24 shots and ten on target. In two games, albeit against two of the weaker teams in the league, they had 21 shots on target. That is pretty exciting.

Then the Norwich game on the weekend is the outlier, it looks different to the others. Won the game 2-1 but look at how the game fell. 1.73 expected goals for Norwich and 0.64 for Cardiff. 16 shots for Norwich, 11 for Cardiff.

But I don't think that really matters. They came up against a Norwich team who are very good and conceded a long range strike. Norwich missed a few opportunities but you're going to have games where you're under the cosh.

I don't think Cardiff should necessarily expect to come up against a Norwich team who have been very impressive for most of the season so far and dominate them in the same way.

Riza said he wants this opportunity and wanted to input a new attacking style of play.

It's always a leap into the unknown and with caretakers there is a perceived risk that you don't get with tried and tested managers. Tried and tested normally means they've done well somewhere and done badly somewhere else.

It's got to the point with Cardiff City that if they want to build on what's happening right now and invest on a manager that can get the whole place buzzing, it would be a dereliction of duty not to give Riza the job.

We have seen a massive uptick in not only the results but the way they are approaching games too.

ALI MAXWELL:

It's not easy to go from the Bulut style to this with a squad that on paper I'd say weren't suited to this attacking style. It's not easy to come in and change that with a flick of the switch.

It's easy to have the intent to play attacking football it's another thing entirely to have the attacking patterns in the final third, creating chances because the players known where to be and how to play.

What he's done in terms of changing the style is incredible.

He's also quickly identified the players suited to this style. In some cases these are players not favoured by Bulut.

The line up in the last four games has been very consistent. He found a first choice back four which is very important.

But he's breathed new life into players in attack. Turnbull has come in out of nowhere to play in a role that would have felt pretty spicy for a guy who is seen as a really attack minded player. Him and Robertson playing really well together.

On paper it's a 4231 but really it's a 4240. Essentially a strikerless formation.

Even when Robinson plays, the positions he takes up are not of a focal point number nine at all until the very end of attacks. He drifts to the left.

They build up heavily down each side and they pack each side with players to combine. So on the left you have O'Dowda, El Ghazi and Robinson. Turnbull drifts out to that side as well.

On the right you have Perry Ng, Rubin Colwill who's been magnificent in the half spaces and Ollie Tanner who's done really well.

They build in those wide areas which isn't so unusual. But they have a fluidity in the final 20 yards which is giving Robinson the chances which he's taking really well.

His shot map are like a number nine but outside of those actions he's not playing anything like a fixed number nine.

It's just really exciting. They've gone from having the fourth fewest shots per game in the league under Bulut to the third most under Riza.

It's more exciting for fans, it's clearly more interesting for the players and it's leading to strong, competitive, energetic, inventive and lively performances.

It's so great to say that about Cardiff City because they're not a team we've enjoyed watching and covering particularly over the last few years and we wanted to celebrate this.

Well done Omer Riza, we certainly think you should be getting the job full time.

It would be typical of this bat shit crazy ownership; that the one time I actually think the temporary manager deserves a chance, they bring in someone else.

It would be typical of this bat shit crazy ownership; that the one time I actually think the temporary manager deserves a chance, they bring in someone else.

Yes its a refreshing and pleasant thing when a change at the club is proving itself good.

There are so many things going right now and he deserves the chance to see us through the season. The problem Omir has is he is not an experience manager and that is leaving doubts in our minds. Now if he was experience like McCarthy or Warnock was then we would be demanding he is given the contract. However he is not so he wont get it yet but even so he deserves extra time and nobody will deny that not even Tan surely.

Why the rush...Mc Carthy had a long unbeaten run got a contract and then looked what happened, agree he s done well , but he is already employed by the club just keep things as they are til xmas. Will he have the experience to add quality in January I don't know.

Spot on there I think. And definitely deserving of the full time job. Especially the amount of genuine praise etc that the players are giving to him can only be a positive

Why the rush...Mc Carthy had a long unbeaten run got a contract and then looked what happened, agree he s done well , but he is already employed by the club just keep things as they are til xmas. Will he have the experience to add quality in January I don't know.

We will keep it as a temporary trial job until January, with a bonus to see if they can keep it up. We don't want them to relax. Then, if it's still going well, we will keep it the same until the summer and decide in April or May so he can be involved in recruitment if he is still here. He has a job here as an assistant anyway.

That's his job, he's supposed to set us up to win football matches as Keene would say.

If we make it permanent you watch the drop off.

He's employed by club so no need to change anything at present simply because who also as benefitted by his move up 1st team coach? Under 21s because purse is not ghere he's doing a job with riza...as a defender is he responsible for teams improvement in defence after dodgy 1st game ....

Keeping the manager on his toes is a good thing plus the players are busting a gut to keep him,
perhaps if he signed they all start to relax maybe to much

Seems the manager and the players fit like a glove and everyone from the top down to the fans are happy with the way things are going.
I’ve said very early on give it to him but can see why others are concerned going by the past.This just seems so different.
Let’s hope others don’t come sniffing and we lose him.

Seems the manager and the players fit like a glove and everyone from the top down to the fans are happy with the way things are going.
I’ve said very early on give it to him but can see why others are concerned going by the past.This just seems so different.
Let’s hope others don’t come sniffing and we lose him.

McCarthy started well, then it all went downhill, keep Riza hungry and keep our options open, if it's not broke don't fix it.

Seems the manager and the players fit like a glove and everyone from the top down to the fans are happy with the way things are going.
I’ve said very early on give it to him but can see why others are concerned going by the past.This just seems so different.
Let’s hope others don’t come sniffing and we lose him.

McCarthy started well, then it all went downhill, keep Riza hungry and keep our options open, if it's not broke don't fix it.

Sorry I don’t see any comparisons in McCarthy and Riza.Two year for me.

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Not a strange headline at all.

It's part of the quote that these people used.

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Not a strange headline at all.

It's part of the quote that these people used.

Could have simply said tan as no choice but to give riza job? Rather than use a quote put in very last paragraph of his article ... but that's being pedantic I guess.

Seems the manager and the players fit like a glove and everyone from the top down to the fans are happy with the way things are going.
I’ve said very early on give it to him but can see why others are concerned going by the past.This just seems so different.
Let’s hope others don’t come sniffing and we lose him.

McCarthy started well, then it all went downhill, keep Riza hungry and keep our options open, if it's not broke don't fix it.

Sorry I don’t see any comparisons in McCarthy and Riza.Two year for me.

McCarthy's team started well, going unbeaten for 11 games.

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Not a strange headline at all.

It's part of the quote that these people used.

Could have simply said tan as no choice but to give riza job? Rather than use a quote put in very last paragraph of his article ... but that's being pedantic I guess.

Yeah, pedantic is the word I was thinking.

I think these are very encouraging statements.

I've not got a problem with delaying the appt as we are doing so well at the moment. Don't want to rock the boat either way.

If by Christmas our form continues, give Riza the job til the end of the season, then a rolling one year contract depending on where we finish.

If we're a bottom eight side at Christmas, then make an appointment but have someone ready to step I immediately.

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Not a strange headline at all.

It's part of the quote that these people used.

Could have simply said tan as no choice but to give riza job? Rather than use a quote put in very last paragraph of his article ... but that's being pedantic I guess.

Yeah, pedantic is the word I was thinking.

Ned was only answering question about "dereliction" and its meaning..... like said simpler phrase would been better to understand..

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Not a strange headline at all.

It's part of the quote that these people used.

Could have simply said tan as no choice but to give riza job? Rather than use a quote put in very last paragraph of his article ... but that's being pedantic I guess.

Yeah, pedantic is the word I was thinking.

Ned was only answering question about "dereliction" and its meaning..... like said simpler phrase would been better to understand..

Sorry been a bit tetchy today!

But did just use some of the quote as the title, can see what people mean though.

Let's remember that you only gain experience from doing the job - ok,this is a relatively high pressure environment going straight from coach to 1st team manager of a Championship club.

However, at one point, Warnock et al were inexperienced so where do you start? Rizla could be a diamond in the rough - I hope he is.

Many on here and including me would have given Bellamy the job,don’t see the difference myself.

I completely agree.

Can’t really fault what they said.

Why the rush...Mc Carthy had a long unbeaten run got a contract and then looked what happened, agree he s done well , but he is already employed by the club just keep things as they are til xmas. Will he have the experience to add quality in January I don't know.

We will keep it as a temporary trial job until January, with a bonus to see if they can keep it up. We don't want them to relax. Then, if it's still going well, we will keep it the same until the summer and decide in April or May so he can be involved in recruitment if he is still here. He has a job here as an assistant anyway.

That's his job, he's supposed to set us up to win football matches as Keene would say.

If we make it permanent you watch the drop off.

Quote: “We will…?”

‘We’ won’t be making the decision; but I believe Omer Riza deserves time to further prove himself and that would be just…!

Sorry to be a bit thick but why is this spokesman using a word called dereliction? Wtf does this mean ?

Opting out of his responsibility (tan) or he's s fool if dont appointing riza as coach.... admit bit strange headline....

Not a strange headline at all.

It's part of the quote that these people used.

Could have simply said tan as no choice but to give riza job? Rather than use a quote put in very last paragraph of his article ... but that's being pedantic I guess.

Yeah, pedantic is the word I was thinking.

Ned was only answering question about "dereliction" and its meaning..... like said simpler phrase would been better to understand..

Sorry been a bit tetchy today!

But did just use some of the quote as the title, can see what people mean though.

That's OK ned wasn't anything about the post .....think the original person who wrote article could have put it differently from start putting "dereliction " at end was bit strange why not put at beginning? That's what I would have done..... anyway no need to give him job now he's had the conversation with tan ect and he sounded happy when asked about meeting..... I'm sure a decent manager will be available if it the needs comes along