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" Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:15 pm

Omer Riza has confirmed that Joel Colwill will not be coming into our first team squad, he will stay at Cheltenham or go on loan to a League One club:




“Joel, we’ve got interest from League One for him, which I think would be really good for him and would be good for his education.

Definitely Bristol Rovers and Exeter. Bolton have other players they’re looking at. There are other clubs as well. So there are lots of potential clubs interested.

"When I was at Arsenal I went out to League Two, then League One, it's very good for the experience and very good for the learning of the player. When he comes back in he will be ready to go, hopefully.

“He’s been brilliant. That’s credit to him and to Cheltenham for giving him the opportunity. He is playing well there and enjoying it. You need to be out of your comfort zone to improve.

"It's not definite he is going out anywhere, he might stay at Cheltenham, he might go out [on loan somewhere else]. That could last right up until the end of the window."

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:18 pm

I think this is the right decision and better for Joel Colwill's long term development. I believe he can become a great player at this level but at the moment, it's much better for him to stay out on loan.

He can then come back in the summer and properly fight for the First Team.

Either keeping him at Cheltenham or loaning him to a League One club like Bristol Rovers is the most beneficial.

If he came back to us, the mostly likely outcome would be he'd play 20 minutes here and there or be back playing U21 football.

That wouldn't help him at all.

So I think this is the right decision.

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:27 pm

I firmly don’t Worcester. We are short of numbers in central midfield. His zest and enthusiasm will be a tonic. Arsenal have played a 16 year old a few times this year. No difference. Let him play. If we lose Robertson or Siopsis through injury/suspension we are stuffed. What’s the point of having OUR player playing for someone else? His ‘education’ could be best served by being around better players on a better standard. Too much Molly cudddling. He’s a professional footballer not a schoolboy

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:39 pm

Brezza wrote:I firmly don’t Worcester. We are short of numbers in central midfield. His zest and enthusiasm will be a tonic. Arsenal have played a 16 year old a few times this year. No difference. Let him play. If we lose Robertson or Siopsis through injury/suspension we are stuffed. What’s the point of having OUR player playing for someone else? His ‘education’ could be best served by being around better players on a better standard. Too much Molly cudddling. He’s a professional footballer not a schoolboy


Totally agree with you Brezza,

He’s also playing in a to lower league for his quality.

Ralls/ Ramsey are past their sell by dates.

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:40 pm

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Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:49 pm

Brezza wrote:I firmly don’t Worcester. We are short of numbers in central midfield. His zest and enthusiasm will be a tonic. Arsenal have played a 16 year old a few times this year. No difference. Let him play. If we lose Robertson or Siopsis through injury/suspension we are stuffed. What’s the point of having OUR player playing for someone else? His ‘education’ could be best served by being around better players on a better standard. Too much Molly cudddling. He’s a professional footballer not a schoolboy

Agree 100%

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:53 pm

Brezza wrote:I firmly don’t Worcester. We are short of numbers in central midfield. His zest and enthusiasm will be a tonic. Arsenal have played a 16 year old a few times this year. No difference. Let him play. If we lose Robertson or Siopsis through injury/suspension we are stuffed. What’s the point of having OUR player playing for someone else? His ‘education’ could be best served by being around better players on a better standard. Too much Molly cudddling. He’s a professional footballer not a schoolboy


I believe his long term development is more important than him sitting on our bench.

People want to believe he's come back and play 15 games in full for us - it just wouldn't happen.

He will be a good Championship player but not yet, it's better to leave him where he is so he can keep building his confidence.

Funnily enough most of the people who say he should come back are the same people who constantly try to convince themselves that his brother is a good player.

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:00 pm

I disagree Brezza.

A 16 year old playing one game for Arsenal has no baring on what we do with our players, he also won’t be in their team enough to consider him a first team player at that age.

Joel is a 20 year old guy who is at an important stage of his development and it’s not going to benefit him coming back to us and sitting on a bench not playing.

People were calling for Reindorf to be in the team saying he was good enough, he isn’t good enough yet.

Eli King was meant to be good enough, but can’t get a game lower down in the leagues.

Leave the guy where he is and let him see the season out.

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:13 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:I think this is the right decision and better for Joel Colwill's long term development. I believe he can become a great player at this level but at the moment, it's much better for him to stay out on loan.

He can then come back in the summer and properly fight for the First Team.

Either keeping him at Cheltenham or loaning him to a League One club like Bristol Rovers is the most beneficial.

If he came back to us, the mostly likely outcome would be he'd play 20 minutes here and there or be back playing U21 football.

That wouldn't help him at all.

So I think this is the right decision.

I tend to agree. Joel has a good future here but this may not be the season to put him into a battle like the one we face. We need experience in right now, whether it be a loan or otherwise :ayatollah:

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:33 pm

I think Joe Ralls was the last time we had a player who played a full season and come back ready for us. Joel looks like he'll be the next, even though Ralls was in the championship not L2.

I think the dice didn't roll for his brother with timing and injuries but i think he lacks that game nounce that a season at 19 at L2 may have given him. I think we have hoped for others to step up rather than expect. I am a bit disappointed that Eli King hasn't kicked on and taken his chance, maybe he isn't championship. I think we all know that Evans and Conte aren't already but we need to help them kick on with their careers at other clubs.

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:49 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Brezza wrote:I firmly don’t Worcester. We are short of numbers in central midfield. His zest and enthusiasm will be a tonic. Arsenal have played a 16 year old a few times this year. No difference. Let him play. If we lose Robertson or Siopsis through injury/suspension we are stuffed. What’s the point of having OUR player playing for someone else? His ‘education’ could be best served by being around better players on a better standard. Too much Molly cudddling. He’s a professional footballer not a schoolboy


I believe his long term development is more important than him sitting on our bench.

People want to believe he's come back and play 15 games in full for us - it just wouldn't happen.

He will be a good Championship player but not yet, it's better to leave him where he is so he can keep building his confidence.

Funnily enough most of the people who say he should come back are the same people who constantly try to convince themselves that his brother is a good player.

I’m glad that you said ‘most’ as I’m certainly not in that category :P

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:55 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Brezza wrote:I firmly don’t Worcester. We are short of numbers in central midfield. His zest and enthusiasm will be a tonic. Arsenal have played a 16 year old a few times this year. No difference. Let him play. If we lose Robertson or Siopsis through injury/suspension we are stuffed. What’s the point of having OUR player playing for someone else? His ‘education’ could be best served by being around better players on a better standard. Too much Molly cudddling. He’s a professional footballer not a schoolboy


I believe his long term development is more important than him sitting on our bench.

People want to believe he's come back and play 15 games in full for us - it just wouldn't happen.

He will be a good Championship player but not yet, it's better to leave him where he is so he can keep building his confidence.

Funnily enough most of the people who say he should come back are the same people who constantly try to convince themselves that his brother is a good player.

I’m glad that you said ‘most’ as I’m certainly not in that category :P


:thumbright:

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:08 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:Omer Riza has confirmed that Joel Colwill will not be coming into our first team squad, he will stay at Cheltenham or go on loan to a League One club:




“Joel, we’ve got interest from League One for him, which I think would be really good for him and would be good for his education.

Definitely Bristol Rovers and Exeter. Bolton have other players they’re looking at. There are other clubs as well. So there are lots of potential clubs interested.

"When I was at Arsenal I went out to League Two, then League One, it's very good for the experience and very good for the learning of the player. When he comes back in he will be ready to go, hopefully.

“He’s been brilliant. That’s credit to him and to Cheltenham for giving him the opportunity. He is playing well there and enjoying it. You need to be out of your comfort zone to improve.

"It's not definite he is going out anywhere, he might stay at Cheltenham, he might go out [on loan somewhere else]. That could last right up until the end of the window."


Playing in league 1 for the rest of this season will be great for him, will get him used to playing that division as that's where we will be playing next season with Rizla in charge

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:40 am

Agreek keep Joel on loan..we are in a relegation scrap and need proven players. Joel has potential and doing well at league 2 level. I would move him to a decent team in league 1 with a clause that he must play certain amount of games

Re: " Omer Riza confirms that Joel Colwill "

Wed Jan 08, 2025 1:06 pm

boyo1927 wrote:Agreek keep Joel on loan..we are in a relegation scrap and need proven players. Joel has potential and doing well at league 2 level. I would move him to a decent team in league 1 with a clause that he must play certain amount of games


Trouble is we will not get proven in we are already looking at 2 youngsters from Peterborough to take the place of 2 youngsters we hsve shipped out reindorf and colwill