Inexperienced, but not a bad Manager

He’s inexperienced, that’s clear to see.

But he’s not a bad manager, in my opinion.

He’s brought in Shaw which has transformed how we play.

He’s given more chances to our young players.

He led us to a 3-0 win over the Jacks.

The fight is back in the team, proven by the come back against Millwall.

He’s learning from his mistakes.

He rode a bit close to the sun today, but got away with it.

I don't think you can barely carry one luxury player let alone two, Robinson is scoring, but if he didn't score that goal I'd question his contribution, yes he runs around a lot but his automatic braking assist optional extra to ensure he never actually engages with the opposition, but he is scoring.

Willock on the other hand offers so in terms of physicality, effort, ability, and composure.

YOU CAN'T PLAY THEN BOTH TOGETHER.

We are playing a sensible organised game and picking up points, be interested what would happen if he had better players

Yeah to be fair the club got lucky with this one.

Wouldn’t anger me if they signed him on as I think he will get better.

But one, he needs to take a stand an against the board and not be a yes man.

Two, the club needs to give him players, not freebies, actually sign some players in the summer that can make a difference where we are lacking. I know strikers are hard to find, but a solid 11 usually chips in with the goals.

He’s had my support all along

He rode a bit close to the sun today, but got away with it.

I don't think you can barely carry one luxury player let alone two, Robinson is scoring, but if he didn't score that goal I'd question his contribution, yes he runs around a lot but his automatic braking assist optional extra to ensure he never actually engages with the opposition, but he is scoring.

Willock on the other hand offers so in terms of physicality, effort, ability, and composure.

YOU CAN'T PLAY THEN BOTH TOGETHER.

We are playing a sensible organised game and picking up points, be interested what would happen if he had better players

A goal and assist but I see your point.

I am warming to him.

He does have things to learn. As you say, that's about experience.

But are we looking better now than we did under Bulut? Absolutely yes.

The fans really got behind him today which I think will give him confidence.

After Oxford, I really thought we would be gone by March with him in charge but he's proving me wrong.

If he keeps us up, he deserves to stay.

The difference Richard Shaw has made looks immense and proves it was what Riza needed….experienced coach.
I think by the way the Canton was singing his name today shows Riza is starting to turn views about him around from maybe Christmas time.

Good to see him turning things around.

I just hope he doesn’t go back to that defensive game, which we reverted to after our last good run.

I’m still not convinced about riza maybe I’m being harse but his inexperience shines threw for me before 20 mins had been played could see willott with no pace can’t play where he is I would of changed it half time he took nearly 60 mins before he changed it plus when we took Robertson off our midfield wasn’t as strong I noticed this yes he was ill during the weak but playing meite sorry he’s gone offers nothing still riza preserves with him this is his inexperience still rather an experienced manager any day maybe end of the season he will prove me wrong if he does I’ll be first to admit I was wrong about him

Yeah to be fair the club got lucky with this one.

Wouldn’t anger me if they signed him on as I think he will get better.

But one, he needs to take a stand an against the board and not be a yes man.

Two, the club needs to give him players, not freebies, actually sign some players in the summer that can make a difference where we are lacking. I know strikers are hard to find, but a solid 11 usually chips in with the goals.

Clarify what you mean by (quote) “not be a yes man”?

It’s a broad statement and I just wonder what evidence do you have that he is…?

Despite concerns, he seems to be picking players on merit rather than reputation, including the youngsters, and his ‘style’ is his own…

His record has been good, P23 W7 D9 L7 PTS 30, equates to a 60 point season and a probable top half finish. We are where we are because of Bulut, not him.

I’m still not convinced about riza maybe I’m being harse but his inexperience shines threw for me before 20 mins had been played could see willott with no pace can’t play where he is I would of changed it half time he took nearly 60 mins before he changed it plus when we took Robertson off our midfield wasn’t as strong I noticed this yes he was ill during the weak but playing meite sorry he’s gone offers nothing still riza preserves with him this is his inexperience still rather an experienced manager any day maybe end of the season he will prove me wrong if he does I’ll be first to admit I was wrong about him

I’m not sure any of the above is down to Riza’s inexperience. I might be wrong but isn’t El Ghazi still working his way back from an injury? With Tanner out it was either start Willock or Meite, and I’d pick the former every day of the week. Not sure given the injuries we have, Riza has much choice but to persevere with Meite. Do we have anyone else to play out wide who’s fit? We really need to sign a winger in the window. If we do and Tanner is fit, I can’t see Meite making the bench. Didn’t think Robertson had a good game today. Riza subs changed the game. We looked much more solid with Salesh up front, Robinson in the hole, El Ghazi out wide, with Fish in a back five. Derby’s number 15 was a handful but was less of a threat after the subs.

I’m still not convinced about riza maybe I’m being harse but his inexperience shines threw for me before 20 mins had been played could see willott with no pace can’t play where he is I would of changed it half time he took nearly 60 mins before he changed it plus when we took Robertson off our midfield wasn’t as strong I noticed this yes he was ill during the weak but playing meite sorry he’s gone offers nothing still riza preserves with him this is his inexperience still rather an experienced manager any day maybe end of the season he will prove me wrong if he does I’ll be first to admit I was wrong about him

He's had eight games unbeaten. Scored seven in our last three games.

You can't say he isn't improving.

I'll judge it at the end of the season, but he's slowly winning me over.

Yeah to be fair the club got lucky with this one.

Wouldn’t anger me if they signed him on as I think he will get better.

But one, he needs to take a stand an against the board and not be a yes man.

Two, the club needs to give him players, not freebies, actually sign some players in the summer that can make a difference where we are lacking. I know strikers are hard to find, but a solid 11 usually chips in with the goals.

Clarify what you mean by (quote) “not be a yes man”?

It’s a broad statement and I just wonder what evidence do you have that he is…?

Despite concerns, he seems to be picking players on merit rather than reputation, including the youngsters, and his ‘style’ is his own…

Oh 100%, no concern as oh yet and I’m glad he’s doing that.

No evidence that he actually is, just as long he stands firm on his team, the players he needs and what the board should be giving him.

Only time will tell, and hoping the protests give the hierarchy a wake up call and give Riza the support.

I personally will stand by what I said from day one:

Very inexperienced and the last 2 games, we got away with it against both clubs who were on their worse runs for years.

We lost points v Coventry, Stoke, Bristol City etc etc due to Riza inexperience.

We won’t get Top players under Riza.

He has a lot to learn and please don’t say well he will keep us up just about and next season we can consolidate as that’s been said the last 5 yrs. Crowds are down every season, We need to be challenging for minimum the play offs .

We have to be ambitious, we are not at Barry Town.


On the plus side I really like Riza and I love his passion etc

We’ve always said this squad is a 10-8th position.


Riza has been here since the beginning of the season and in charge for 90% of these games and has dropped a hell of a lot of points.


We play Leeds next week, everyone is capable in this league of taking points of each other.

Just this weekend Hull away at Sheffield United who were Top. Plymouth away at Sunderland.


It’s all about how Ambitious We are ???

I really hope this continues, he's cheap and enthusiastic, can he attract good quality players to the club, or be able to build the team with our youth,let's see how we get on at Leeds Sat.

He rode a bit close to the sun today, but got away with it.

I don't think you can barely carry one luxury player let alone two, Robinson is scoring, but if he didn't score that goal I'd question his contribution, yes he runs around a lot but his automatic braking assist optional extra to ensure he never actually engages with the opposition, but he is scoring.

Willock on the other hand offers so in terms of physicality, effort, ability, and composure.

YOU CAN'T PLAY THEN BOTH TOGETHER.

We are playing a sensible organised game and picking up points, be interested what would happen if he had better players

Disagree. Yes Robinson was off his game today but his running around is part of his press where he puts defence under pressure and to say he doesn't challenge maybe not so much today but up Millwall and against jacks he broke up play and dropped deep etc to recover ball.

Willock was poor and I was calling for him to be subbed at halftime.

He rode a bit close to the sun today, but got away with it.

I don't think you can barely carry one luxury player let alone two, Robinson is scoring, but if he didn't score that goal I'd question his contribution, yes he runs around a lot but his automatic braking assist optional extra to ensure he never actually engages with the opposition, but he is scoring.

Willock on the other hand offers so in terms of physicality, effort, ability, and composure.

YOU CAN'T PLAY THEN BOTH TOGETHER.

We are playing a sensible organised game and picking up points, be interested what would happen if he had better players

Disagree. Yes Robinson was off his game today but his running around is part of his press where he puts defence under pressure and to say he doesn't challenge maybe not so much today but up Millwall and against jacks he broke up play and dropped deep etc to recover ball.

Willock was poor and I was calling for him to be subbed at halftime.

But he never wins the balls, he doesn't even pretend to make a challenge is almost choreography, it's like a dancer's interpretation of a tackle. If it's Ashford or Davies then the defender knows they will be getting their foot in.

He is not my type of player, i have had 2.5 seasons to make my mind up, but is the best striker in the club, in a purple patch and we must ride it.

The difference Richard Shaw has made looks immense and proves it was what Riza needed….experienced coach.
I think by the way the Canton was singing his name today shows Riza is starting to turn views about him around from maybe Christmas time.

Richard Shaw was royally slagged off on here when he was announced. Accused of having no experience since 2012 and another “cheap” addition to the existing cheap option of Riza. To be honest, I’d never heard of him, other than comments about him winding Cantona up to being sent off the time he king fu kicked a spectator.
At the moment the 2 inexperienced guys seem to be delivering over a period. Yesterday, I looked at Riza’s stats since taking over and overall they’re very reasonable. If he saw he needed a particular addition to the coaching staff as results dipped, and went and signed him to beef things up, he’s showing good decision making. All this , while in the background his father was terminally ill.
Whether we stay up (and I expect us to) or go down. I think these two will be a decent management team and have future success. Whether it’s here or at another club.
I like what he’s building towards. Hopefully we’ll benefit out of it.

Yeah to be fair the club got lucky with this one.

Wouldn’t anger me if they signed him on as I think he will get better.

But one, he needs to take a stand an against the board and not be a yes man.

Two, the club needs to give him players, not freebies, actually sign some players in the summer that can make a difference where we are lacking. I know strikers are hard to find, but a solid 11 usually chips in with the goals.

Clarify what you mean by (quote) “not be a yes man”?

It’s a broad statement and I just wonder what evidence do you have that he is…?

Despite concerns, he seems to be picking players on merit rather than reputation, including the youngsters, and his ‘style’ is his own…

Excellent point Chris

He rode a bit close to the sun today, but got away with it.

I don't think you can barely carry one luxury player let alone two, Robinson is scoring, but if he didn't score that goal I'd question his contribution, yes he runs around a lot but his automatic braking assist optional extra to ensure he never actually engages with the opposition, but he is scoring.

Willock on the other hand offers so in terms of physicality, effort, ability, and composure.

YOU CAN'T PLAY THEN BOTH TOGETHER.

We are playing a sensible organised game and picking up points, be interested what would happen if he had better players

Disagree. Yes Robinson was off his game today but his running around is part of his press where he puts defence under pressure and to say he doesn't challenge maybe not so much today but up Millwall and against jacks he broke up play and dropped deep etc to recover ball.

Willock was poor and I was calling for him to be subbed at halftime.

But he never wins the balls, he doesn't even pretend to make a challenge is almost choreography, it's like a dancer's interpretation of a tackle. If it's Ashford or Davies then the defender knows they will be getting their foot in.

He is not my type of player, i have had 2.5 seasons to make my mind up, but is the best striker in the club, in a purple patch and we must ride it.

Ok 2 opinions mate. I do think he has a lot to offer but can relate to times when he did come across as uninterested so to speak and not always willing to put foot in but to me he's a player looking to pounce on a mistake rather than tackle etc

he's getting better there's no doubt about that, he seems to get most subs right now, he still needs to work on how to close games out properly when we are winning in the last 20mins but one thing I like about riza is he wants to learn from his mistakes rather than being stubborn and sticking with tactics that ain't working(like bulut) and he definitely gets my respect for seeing out the jacks game after the sad news about his father, that just shows how committed he is to the club and I think its great to see

Yeah to be fair the club got lucky with this one.

Wouldn’t anger me if they signed him on as I think he will get better.

But one, he needs to take a stand an against the board and not be a yes man.

Two, the club needs to give him players, not freebies, actually sign some players in the summer that can make a difference where we are lacking. I know strikers are hard to find, but a solid 11 usually chips in with the goals.

Clarify what you mean by (quote) “not be a yes man”?

It’s a broad statement and I just wonder what evidence do you have that he is…?

Despite concerns, he seems to be picking players on merit rather than reputation, including the youngsters, and his ‘style’ is his own…

Excellent point Chris

Too many ‘broad comments’ that can’t really be backed up on here at times, Lee…

Nice to see he backtracked in his response though…

I think Riza is doing okay under the circumstances and he certainly seems to have the confidence of his players. I don’t really see where he’s looking like a ‘yes’ man; but overall, I tend to agree with Annis’ assertion that we need to step up at every level, IF we are to show real ambition…

Yeah to be fair the club got lucky with this one.

Wouldn’t anger me if they signed him on as I think he will get better.

But one, he needs to take a stand an against the board and not be a yes man.

Two, the club needs to give him players, not freebies, actually sign some players in the summer that can make a difference where we are lacking. I know strikers are hard to find, but a solid 11 usually chips in with the goals.

Clarify what you mean by (quote) “not be a yes man”?

It’s a broad statement and I just wonder what evidence do you have that he is…?

Despite concerns, he seems to be picking players on merit rather than reputation, including the youngsters, and his ‘style’ is his own…

Excellent point Chris

Too many ‘broad comments’ that can’t really be backed up on here at times, Lee…

Nice to see he backtracked in his response though…

I think Riza is doing okay under the circumstances and he certainly seems to have the confidence of his players. I don’t really see where he’s looking like a ‘yes’ man; but overall, I tend to agree with Annis’ assertion that we need to step up at every level, IF we are to show real ambition…

Yes Chris the yes man is hard to judge as he seems no different than anybody else with a job to do with regards to management etc. Time will be more telling I believe.
But I will also say sometimes it's easier to get on with management above you than be in constant arguments with them. Tan we all know is difficult to work with. If riza is tans choice as reported maybe tan is not making it so hard as to not be able to work with him. Unlike his other managers.
But as for the here and now with riza I believe we need to back him fully until end of season come relegation or not or even play off push. Unity from fans and manager is surely the direction we should be heading and with the current form no reason to be any different to him

His record has been good, P23 W7 D9 L7 PTS 30, equates to a 60 point season and a probable top half finish. We are where we are because of Bulut, not him.

Spot On .

Looked again at the points stats for this season. And in judging Riza at the end of the season, I’ll treat him as effectively having started with a 15 point deduction for the Bulut results. To keep it a clean comparison. I’m not interested that he was assistant manager for any of those games, same as I’m not giving credit to Shaw since arriving. It’s the manager who takes the plaudits or the flak.
On that basis, for me, If he keeps us up he’ll have done a good job.

I’ll put the tin hat on ready for the replies