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Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:14 pm

Careful what you wish for ....looking at what's happening down west after getting rid of the yanks

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:16 pm

No.

Take a look at Newcastle, Bournemouth, Forest etc.

All got new owners and it seriously progressed them.

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:39 pm

I don't think the Jack's changed owners I think he was already there before and was just taking the yanks shares so he had complete control over the club, I could be wrong though

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:44 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:No.

Take a look at Newcastle, Bournemouth, Forest etc.

All got new owners and it seriously progressed them.


Reading, Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday, etc.

How many clubs have ended up like Newcastle, Bournemouth or Forest compared to how many clubs have gone bust, had point deductions or been relegated below where they started since new owners took over?

We could be the next Wrexham, or we could be the next Wimbledon.

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:44 pm

just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:46 pm

froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo


Basically no difference then.

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:48 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo


Basically no difference then.


exactly

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:50 pm

froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:52 pm

I agree that the owner could have a stronger bond with the club, that would be ideal. But, if he's backing the manager financially to enable him to strengthen the team, then surely we can't have too many complaints on that score.

There are many areas where the owner can justifiably be criticised but in this window at least, giving his financial backing is not one of them.

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:58 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain

Re: Is it a case of

Tue Jan 28, 2025 1:59 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


Yes and we’ve also brought in other decent players recently like Daland, Fish and Robertson.
All young players as well.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:33 pm

froggy1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain


The protest which was coming down the road might have had a hand in owner and board trying to keep fans sweet by bringing in someone 4 seasons we wailted for a striker
Protest then we get a striker
Coincidence ?

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:37 pm

montyblue wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain


The protest which was coming down the road might have had a hand in owner and board trying to keep fans sweet by bringing in someone 4 seasons we wailted for a striker
Protest then we get a striker
Coincidence ?


Yes. Football deals don’t just get sorted out in an afternoon. Not to mention the protest happened after the Salech signing.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 6:59 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:No.

Take a look at Newcastle, Bournemouth, Forest etc.

All got new owners and it seriously progressed them.

Yes but for every good example there’s at least one bad.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:13 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:No.

Take a look at Newcastle, Bournemouth, Forest etc.

All got new owners and it seriously progressed them.

Yes but for every good example there’s at least one bad.


I take that point but as others on this thread have said, the Jacks ownership is pretty much the same as it was.

So the initial point isn't relevant.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:51 pm

JLBrewster wrote:
montyblue wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain


The protest which was coming down the road might have had a hand in owner and board trying to keep fans sweet by bringing in someone 4 seasons we wailted for a striker
Protest then we get a striker
Coincidence ?


Yes. Football deals don’t just get sorted out in an afternoon. Not to mention the protest happened after the Salech signing.


The protest was well known before the signing of Salech happened.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:46 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
JLBrewster wrote:
montyblue wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain


The protest which was coming down the road might have had a hand in owner and board trying to keep fans sweet by bringing in someone 4 seasons we wailted for a striker
Protest then we get a striker
Coincidence ?


Yes. Football deals don’t just get sorted out in an afternoon. Not to mention the protest happened after the Salech signing.


The protest was well known before the signing of Salech happened.


On here it was, there was very little on other social media platforms. CCMB, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, FAB, CCST and CCSC all had very little or nothing about the march that didn’t directly link back to this forum, hence why there was a lot of skeptics questioning who was really organising the march and if there were ulterior motives.

25,000 Cardiff fans went to the game, depending on the numbers you read ~1000 people marched and ~300 protested outside the stadium. The club aren’t splashing out a few million in transfer fees and wages for that.

If the club were truly panicked into buying a player it would’ve been a marquee signing. Some ex Premier League “big name” player or a half decent free agent on big wages to appease the masses. Not a 22 yr old unknown Danish player from a mid table Swedish league side.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:41 pm

JLBrewster wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JLBrewster wrote:
montyblue wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain


The protest which was coming down the road might have had a hand in owner and board trying to keep fans sweet by bringing in someone 4 seasons we wailted for a striker
Protest then we get a striker
Coincidence ?


Yes. Football deals don’t just get sorted out in an afternoon. Not to mention the protest happened after the Salech signing.


The protest was well known before the signing of Salech happened.


On here it was, there was very little on other social media platforms. CCMB, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, FAB, CCST and CCSC all had very little or nothing about the march that didn’t directly link back to this forum, hence why there was a lot of skeptics questioning who was really organising the march and if there were ulterior motives.

25,000 Cardiff fans went to the game, depending on the numbers you read ~1000 people marched and ~300 protested outside the stadium. The club aren’t splashing out a few million in transfer fees and wages for that.

If the club were truly panicked into buying a player it would’ve been a marquee signing. Some ex Premier League “big name” player or a half decent free agent on big wages to appease the masses. Not a 22 yr old unknown Danish player from a mid table Swedish league side.


The club and the players knew about the protest and also all the social media platforms that I participate in. Assing to that the media covered the protest, Glen Williams being one of them.

As for signing a player it has been said Tan is apprehensive in signing anyone coming with a high price tag. Funny though is it not that the media Glen Williams, announced we has signed a £3m player that turned out to be a load of rubbish. Something tells me Glen Williams was foxed into publishing that. Now who would have done the foxing just before the protest?

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:10 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
JLBrewster wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JLBrewster wrote:
montyblue wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
froggy1927 wrote:just checked they have 3 owners now who all were already share holders at the club, so it would basically be like tan selling to Dalman and choo



Yrs Coleman is majority share holder like tan! They are on majority cost cutting excerise brought in one player not sure if loan but certainly no fee paid.... Williams went on personal scouting mission to Holland recently but failed to bring in his target.... at least we've brought in two decent players .


we seem to be having a much better window than they are especially if they lose their captain


The protest which was coming down the road might have had a hand in owner and board trying to keep fans sweet by bringing in someone 4 seasons we wailted for a striker
Protest then we get a striker
Coincidence ?


Yes. Football deals don’t just get sorted out in an afternoon. Not to mention the protest happened after the Salech signing.


The protest was well known before the signing of Salech happened.


On here it was, there was very little on other social media platforms. CCMB, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, FAB, CCST and CCSC all had very little or nothing about the march that didn’t directly link back to this forum, hence why there was a lot of skeptics questioning who was really organising the march and if there were ulterior motives.

25,000 Cardiff fans went to the game, depending on the numbers you read ~1000 people marched and ~300 protested outside the stadium. The club aren’t splashing out a few million in transfer fees and wages for that.

If the club were truly panicked into buying a player it would’ve been a marquee signing. Some ex Premier League “big name” player or a half decent free agent on big wages to appease the masses. Not a 22 yr old unknown Danish player from a mid table Swedish league side.


The club and the players knew about the protest and also all the social media platforms that I participate in. Assing to that the media covered the protest, Glen Johnson being one of them.

As for signing a player it has been said Tan is apprehensive in signing anyone coming with a high price tag. Funny though is it not that the media Glen Johnson, announced we has signed a £3m player that turned out to be a load of rubbish. Something tells me Glen Johnson was foxed into publishing that. Now who would have done the foxing just before the protest?


Hang on, I’m confused. At first, the claim was Salech was a panic signing because of pressure from the protest. And now you’re saying we were always signing Salech, the club just lied about the transfer fee to appease the fans?

That seems a rather foolish gamble by a board that have already been accused of wasting money. It would be pretty easy to unravel that lie.

Also, Transfermarkt has Salech’s value as just shy of 2 million as of last summer. If the board managed such a coup to sign him for only a few hundred thousand, surely they’d be flaunting such a steal as an excellent piece of business. And proof that we’ve now got a coherent and working transfer strategy?

Or, just maybe, we signed a player (for the amount of money we claim we paid) that coincided with a protest planned for the middle of the transfer window. A pretty much unknown player who will have needed to be scouted, who by all accounts aligns with the transfer strategy of the other 4 players we paid for this season. Robertson, Daland, Fish, Šimić.

Re: Is it a case of

Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:55 pm

Without doubt the club did not want the protest to go ahead. So they announced the signing of this player at £3m when really what they should of said wasthat there was a down payment of £200k and the rest is made up of add ons. From what I've heard some of these add ons are not going to be achieved.

For me its all shannigans by the club to try and stop the protest with them using Glen Johnson. Something tells me this is why Glen Johnson published the protest as he felt the club had used him.

Re: Is it a case of

Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:10 am

Bakedalasker wrote:Without doubt the club did not want the protest to go ahead. So they announced the signing of this player at £3m when really what they should of said wasthat there was a down payment of £200k and the rest is made up of add ons. From what I've heard some of these add ons are not going to be achieved.

For me its all shannigans by the club to try and stop the protest with them using Glen Johnson. Something tells me this is why Glen Johnson published the protest as he felt the club had used him.


24 hours notice wasn’t going to stop the protest. In all honesty, nothing was stopping it. That should’ve been painfully obvious to anyone. However, let’s pretend for a moment that was the intention, there was zero communication from the club to the protest organisers in regards to the Salech signing.

Hell of a “shannigan” by the club to spend £200k for a near £2m valued player (one that fits our system and is in a position pretty widely agreed that needed the most strengthening) to then not say “pretty please don’t march, we signed this guy to cheer you fans up” :lol:

Re: Is it a case of

Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:43 am

JLBrewster wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Without doubt the club did not want the protest to go ahead. So they announced the signing of this player at £3m when really what they should of said wasthat there was a down payment of £200k and the rest is made up of add ons. From what I've heard some of these add ons are not going to be achieved.

For me its all shannigans by the club to try and stop the protest with them using Glen Johnson. Something tells me this is why Glen Johnson published the protest as he felt the club had used him.


24 hours notice wasn’t going to stop the protest. In all honesty, nothing was stopping it. That should’ve been painfully obvious to anyone. However, let’s pretend for a moment that was the intention, there was zero communication from the club to the protest organisers in regards to the Salech signing.

Hell of a “shannigan” by the club to spend £200k for a near £2m valued player (one that fits our system and is in a position pretty widely agreed that needed the most strengthening) to then not say “pretty please don’t march, we signed this guy to cheer you fans up” :lol:


Painfully obvious? Why do you say that?

Re: Is it a case of

Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:04 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
JLBrewster wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Without doubt the club did not want the protest to go ahead. So they announced the signing of this player at £3m when really what they should of said wasthat there was a down payment of £200k and the rest is made up of add ons. From what I've heard some of these add ons are not going to be achieved.

For me its all shannigans by the club to try and stop the protest with them using Glen Johnson. Something tells me this is why Glen Johnson published the protest as he felt the club had used him.


24 hours notice wasn’t going to stop the protest. In all honesty, nothing was stopping it. That should’ve been painfully obvious to anyone. However, let’s pretend for a moment that was the intention, there was zero communication from the club to the protest organisers in regards to the Salech signing.

Hell of a “shannigan” by the club to spend £200k for a near £2m valued player (one that fits our system and is in a position pretty widely agreed that needed the most strengthening) to then not say “pretty please don’t march, we signed this guy to cheer you fans up” :lol:


Painfully obvious? Why do you say that?


The protest was “Tan Out” not “Sign a Swedish league striker”

Salech joining didn’t achieve the goals of the protest so why would it have been cancelled?