ONE IN ONE OUT DO WE GAIN?

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

Monty it’s over all, 2 in 9 out so far .

We are a bit overloaded in midfield, multiple players can play that holding role.

Robertson, Ralls, Chambers, Rinomhota, Mannsverk

Mannsverk and Chambers will be seen as the starters I would imagine, but would Sio get in front of the others? I’m not so sure.

Plus he wants to leave.

Out of the 9 who have left/are leaving, I don’t think we are losing much in terms of strength to the team, especially not the starting 11.

We are cutting the wages and moving towards a younger set up, which I think is the right move.

As much as I loved MSs commitment and passion shown, he hasn't shown great form of late and certainly hasn't been missed when not in the team for whatever reason. If, and at the moment its a big if, the guy from Ajax is very good I'd say its good business as I'm guessing that Siopis was on a tidy wage.
Once again it seems to be clearing the decks.
pleased that we seem to be getting some younger players on board now.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

Turnbull and maybe Joel for next season.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

So your saying we have 2 more coming before the window closes ?

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

So your saying we have 2 more coming before the window closes ?

Well they said after Mannsverk that they wanted two more but players had to leave.

So surely with Siopis, Reindorf, Etete, Collins going then they have to follow that through and sign these two more?

We still desperately need a winger.

Monty it’s over all, 2 in 9 out so far .

Yes it seems unbalanced

But worcester reckons we have a couple more coming in we will wait in anticipation.
But we have been here many times waiting in hope and then it all falls flat and some say oh well,
we will go with what we got bla bla.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

So your saying we have 2 more coming before the window closes ?

Well they said after Mannsverk that they wanted two more but players had to leave.

So surely with Siopis, Reindorf, Etete, Collins going then they have to follow that through and sign these two more?

We still desperately need a winger.

So your the same as most of us,
we are all waiting in hope as usual,
but then others will say well its at the last part of the transfer where the bargains or deals are done .
But when nothing materializes its oh well go with what we have they wanted silly money bla bla.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

Some very good points. If as seems the case Riza has identified players that can no longer take the club forward and replaced them with seemingly better players, this is the most positive indication we've had of the club's ambitions for some time. As you said, January is not the time to rebuild the squad but one or maybe two more players will exceed the fan's expectations.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

So your saying we have 2 more coming before the window closes ?

Well they said after Mannsverk that they wanted two more but players had to leave.

So surely with Siopis, Reindorf, Etete, Collins going then they have to follow that through and sign these two more?

We still desperately need a winger.

So your the same as most of us,
we are all waiting in hope as usual,
but then others will say well its at the last part of the transfer where the bargains or deals are done .
But when nothing materializes its oh well go with what we have they wanted silly money bla bla.

To be fair Monty, like you I said after the last window that it was a disaster we didn't bring in another striker and we were right.

I also think it will not be good if we don't bring in a winger.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

So your saying we have 2 more coming before the window closes ?

Well they said after Mannsverk that they wanted two more but players had to leave.

So surely with Siopis, Reindorf, Etete, Collins going then they have to follow that through and sign these two more?

We still desperately need a winger.

So your the same as most of us,
we are all waiting in hope as usual,
but then others will say well its at the last part of the transfer where the bargains or deals are done .
But when nothing materializes its oh well go with what we have they wanted silly money bla bla.

To be fair Monty, like you I said after the last window that it was a disaster we didn't bring in another striker and we were right.

I also think it will not be good if we don't bring in a winger.

Yes we where both right but payed the penalty for it hence our position a point outside the bottom 3 we have supposedly addressed the striker issue somewhat but untested yet to be frank,
And etete has gone so lets hope our new striker can do the buisness and to be fair robinson has turned himself around but for how long,
there was a point he was not interested to be on the pitch sulking etc
I agree about a winger willock has been a big dissapointment taner blows hot and cold o dowda bril on the day when he can play on the wing and when he is fit also but thats why it would have been nice to have got all in early and got them playing in january. But who am i just another fan with an opinion on the forum
Whether i am cheerie or a moaner its a forum fans can moan rant as much as they want.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

technically we haven't even gained one because he's a loan so will return to ajax end of season, so I guess we will still need to strengthen central midfield in the summer

People need to remember that January is never about re-building the squad, more about improving it.

I think we've done that with Salech and Mannsverk, with a couple more to come. Siopis wanted to go and was on big money, his exit is a deal that works for everyone.

Some clubs will sign six or seven players in January. The issue with that is it's difficult to get that many players to integrate with the squad in a short space of time.

But you're right, we will need more in the summer. Not only to replace loans Mannsverk but also players that leave on a free, possibly Ralls if he doesn't stay.

So your saying we have 2 more coming before the window closes ?

Well they said after Mannsverk that they wanted two more but players had to leave.

So surely with Siopis, Reindorf, Etete, Collins going then they have to follow that through and sign these two more?

We still desperately need a winger.

So your the same as most of us,
we are all waiting in hope as usual,
but then others will say well its at the last part of the transfer where the bargains or deals are done .
But when nothing materializes its oh well go with what we have they wanted silly money bla bla.

To be fair Monty, like you I said after the last window that it was a disaster we didn't bring in another striker and we were right.

I also think it will not be good if we don't bring in a winger.

Yes we where both right but payed the penalty for it hence our position a point outside the bottom 3 we have supposedly addressed the striker issue somewhat but untested yet to be frank,
And etete has gone so lets hope our new striker can do the buisness and to be fair robinson has turned himself around but for how long,
there was a point he was not interested to be on the pitch sulking etc
I agree about a winger willock has been a big dissapointment taner blows hot and cold o dowda bril on the day when he can play on the wing and when he is fit also but thats why it would have been nice to have got all in early and got them playing in january. But who am i just another fan with an opinion on the forum
Whether i am cheerie or a moaner its a forum fans can moan rant as much as they want.

Agree, everyone entitled to their opinion

One player we have signed permanent that's it and the loan just replaces siopis to be honest one player isn't going to do much we need three or four permanent ones who are better than what we have to push on but unless by some miracle we sign a couple more then I think we be fighting till the end and not pushing up the table more but we shall see. Although it wouldbt supprise me we sign one or two last minute ones who need four weeks to get fit which might cost us games as we have done that in the past many times leaving it to the last minute although I won't hold my breath either way I'll be there

I expect it to be at least 11 out & maybe 1-2 more in?



Kion Etete and Jamilu Collins all looking likely to leave.

One player we have signed permanent that's it and the loan just replaces siopis to be honest one player isn't going to do much we need three or four permanent ones who are better than what we have to push on but unless by some miracle we sign a couple more then I think we be fighting till the end and not pushing up the table more but we shall see. Although it wouldbt supprise me we sign one or two last minute ones who need four weeks to get fit which might cost us games as we have done that in the past many times leaving it to the last minute although I won't hold my breath either way I'll be there

Ian,


And remember I said this, Riza will say he was fully backed.

Yet nothing will have been spent over all this month and in fact Wages reduced drastically.

He can’t complain as he has been happy to do this.

One player we have signed permanent that's it and the loan just replaces siopis to be honest one player isn't going to do much we need three or four permanent ones who are better than what we have to push on but unless by some miracle we sign a couple more then I think we be fighting till the end and not pushing up the table more but we shall see. Although it wouldbt supprise me we sign one or two last minute ones who need four weeks to get fit which might cost us games as we have done that in the past many times leaving it to the last minute although I won't hold my breath either way I'll be there

Ian,


And remember I said this, Riza will say he was fully backed.

Yet nothing will have been spent over all this month and in fact Wages reduced drastically.

He can’t complain as he has been happy to do this.

I'm sure he would love loads of players in annis in truth if he could say that and who but he's cheap and nods as he's paid a wage so toes the party line for the dictator with the media that's what they do which helps his profile for the future I guess as lets be honest he's done nothing yet in Management bar a few shit level ones before this so has landed on his feet currently but hopefully he does well although we just go with whatever these days at ccfc circus as fans.

One player we have signed permanent that's it and the loan just replaces siopis to be honest one player isn't going to do much we need three or four permanent ones who are better than what we have to push on but unless by some miracle we sign a couple more then I think we be fighting till the end and not pushing up the table more but we shall see. Although it wouldbt supprise me we sign one or two last minute ones who need four weeks to get fit which might cost us games as we have done that in the past many times leaving it to the last minute although I won't hold my breath either way I'll be there

Ian,


And remember I said this, Riza will say he was fully backed.

Yet nothing will have been spent over all this month and in fact Wages reduced drastically.

He can’t complain as he has been happy to do this.

I'm sure he would love loads of players in annis in truth if he could say that and who but he's cheap and nods as he's paid a wage so toes the party line for the dictator with the media that's what they do which helps his profile for the future I guess as lets be honest he's done nothing yet in Management bar a few shit level ones before this so has landed on his feet currently but hopefully he does well although we just go with whatever these days at ccfc circus as fans.

Absolutely Spot on Ian,

The truth as usual some won’t accept.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

Back to monty's question.

You're right monty, as far as the midfield goes yes we've got a 1 in 1 out situation where both are apparently good players but we gain in having a player who wants to be here (as far as we're aware) for one who doesn't want to be here so yeah surely we can only gain in that scenario.

We can only wish Siopis the best with his new team.

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

Back to monty's question.

You're right monty, as far as the midfield goes yes we've got a 1 in 1 out situation where both are apparently good players but we gain in having a player who wants to be here (as far as we're aware) for one who doesn't want to be here so yeah surely we can only gain in that scenario.

We can only wish Siopis the best with his new team.

I always liked siopis sometimes he ran around and looked like he had something in his shorts which should' nt be there but also got stuck in tracked made those great tackles
so wish him well,
the new guy in yet untried until i get to see him will reserve judgement also our striker i want to see 90 mins out of him .

New midfield guy in but loose siopis so at the moment we have gained 1 player in,
a striker which was needed i know its about balance books but we have lost a good midfield guy in siopis so in my book its one good player for another.

Back to monty's question.

You're right monty, as far as the midfield goes yes we've got a 1 in 1 out situation where both are apparently good players but we gain in having a player who wants to be here (as far as we're aware) for one who doesn't want to be here so yeah surely we can only gain in that scenario.

We can only wish Siopis the best with his new team.

I always liked siopis sometimes he ran around and looked like he had something in his shorts which should' nt be there but also got stuck in tracked made those great tackles
so wish him well,
the new guy in yet untried until i get to see him will reserve judgement also our striker i want to see 90 mins out of him .

Think you'll be pleasantly surprised by Mannsverk, he adds quality and is better than Siopis. We will need a new CM in the summer though, he'll go on to bigger things and won't be staying.

Siopis had to go because he wanted to leave and was on a lot of money anyway. Not worth it for a player who won't play most games.

We could also loose goutas end of season so fish and daland maybe buddy up
Lets hope for this upturn to continue and build ,
leeds away could be a kick in the teeth but will be happy if we beat pompey before the wurzels

Usually January it's move out players to sighn new ones simply because can only have 25 players and normally squad is full...unfortunately chances are e will lose decent player or two it's how you replace them that matters and it looks as if doing OK on that score