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Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:41 pm

I know this might be a controversial post, and I apologise for that, but I really cant blame Omer Riza.

I am sure, by his own admission, he would concede that he is not an experienced manager but he was offered a significant amount of money which I am quite sure each of us would have accepted to manage the first team if we were offered it and I dont blame him one bit for looking after his family.

For me the blame has to lie firmly at the doorstep of our mis-management committee who clearly believe the likes of Russell Slade, Trollope, Riza are the right manager for us as a club.

Its a matter of choice. Below is the cost of a Premier League Manager

https://www.givemesport.com/premier-league-managers-salary/

£20,000 per week can get you someone decent.

Below is what Capology believe we pay our players

https://www.capology.com/club/cardiff/salaries/

So the question I ask myself is would I prefer a fringe squad player like Roko Simic or would I prefer a Premier quality manager? For me its a no-brainer but for our mis-management committee they would rather invest their money in a fringe player and fund the sort of managers that they have provided us over the last few years.

I dont blame Riza one bit

VT wants £200m for the club. Very soon he is going to find us in Division 1. If not this season, next season, but it will happen because we have been knocking on the door for the past few seasons - and when we do go down we will be worth around £30m and VT will only have himself to blame.

For me I will continue to watch Cardiff, albeit from distance, whatever division they are in. And I am sure most here would agree.

VT is not spoiling it for us because we will continue to watch and when we do find ourselves in division 1 I suspect he will sell the club "on the cheap" to someone who will probably then concentrate on giving us decent football.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Sat Feb 15, 2025 10:06 pm

I also don't blame Riza either, he should be nowhere near this job but if he didn't take it then someone else would.

I'll take teaching; each year thousands of new qualified teachers hit the workplace. Of each cohort a few will make top-quality head teachers, more will make good deputies, and greater again will make department heads but the overwhelming majority will be great teachers with the rest leaving the profession altogether because it's not for them.

Riza has qualified, coached youth but has barely shown any results in the professional mens game. In any of industry his promotion to the top would never have been mooted and then approved.

I can't quantify if he has cost or gained us points. He just shouldn't be managing a championship club.

I think Mannswerk, Rambo & Salech with Rubin, Ashford & Robertson may be enough this season, but I am not sure i want to do another season and i think there will be many other similar to me.

Tan has no chance of getting half his money back with his current strategy.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:06 pm

Paul Keevil wrote:I know this might be a controversial post, and I apologise for that, but I really cant blame Omer Riza.

I am sure, by his own admission, he would concede that he is not an experienced manager but he was offered a significant amount of money which I am quite sure each of us would have accepted to manage the first team if we were offered it and I dont blame him one bit for looking after his family.

For me the blame has to lie firmly at the doorstep of our mis-management committee who clearly believe the likes of Russell Slade, Trollope, Riza are the right manager for us as a club.

Its a matter of choice. Below is the cost of a Premier League Manager

https://www.givemesport.com/premier-league-managers-salary/

£20,000 per week can get you someone decent.

Below is what Capology believe we pay our players

https://www.capology.com/club/cardiff/salaries/

So the question I ask myself is would I prefer a fringe squad player like Roko Simic or would I prefer a Premier quality manager? For me its a no-brainer but for our mis-management committee they would rather invest their money in a fringe player and fund the sort of managers that they have provided us over the last few years.

I dont blame Riza one bit

VT wants £200m for the club. Very soon he is going to find us in Division 1. If not this season, next season, but it will happen because we have been knocking on the door for the past few seasons - and when we do go down we will be worth around £30m and VT will only have himself to blame.

For me I will continue to watch Cardiff, albeit from distance, whatever division they are in. And I am sure most here would agree.

VT is not spoiling it for us because we will continue to watch and when we do find ourselves in division 1 I suspect he will sell the club "on the cheap" to someone who will probably then concentrate on giving us decent football.

Paul, you've always been a top poster on here, but i fear the worse this season ,if we survive we need to cleanse our club of the 3 lunatics who are destroying our club.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Sun Feb 16, 2025 9:19 am

No need to apologise as most if not all are agreeing with you.

I've set my mindset for us to be playing League One football next season. There is still hope we might avoid relegation next season but for me its looking for unlijkely as each week goes by. I do pray that Omar will pull it off but I just can't see it happening as he is too inexperienced for this job and he was the last thing we needed.

Relegation could be a good thing as more and more supporters will see where the problems stem from. The club is big enough to be a Premier side but not under this regime.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Tue Feb 18, 2025 11:30 am

He needs to have courage of his convictions to get us out of this mess but for whatever reason he's not doing that ? This can be seen in his team selection at home and his use of substitutes..... both are safety 1st moves something that is not nessasary especially
at home and costing us points. ....You've got to fear for us
If he continues to do this....

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:53 pm

I also do not blame Riza, he was never going to turn this opportunity down.

An opportunity no sane footballing person would have offered him though. A rookie in a relegation battle in one of the toughest leagues in Europe in an anniversary year.

We dont have a footballing person making those decisions though do we?

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:38 am

I never wanted Riza to have the job in the first place, our good start under him followed by a long winless run then another unbeaten run ended by that 7 0 humiliation underlines his erratic mismanagement and in experience, seems a nice bloke but we don't need nice blokes fighting relegation, I too fear for our safety.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:54 pm

I believe that with the quality of players we now have on our books, we should be much higher in the table but after such a horrendous start to the season we have done well to put a little bit of daylight between ourselves and the bottom three. The pressure is on for every game, which is not conducive to consistent performances.

Having said that, do I think Riza should be here next season if we survive ? For me the answer is a resounding no. We have noticeably strengthened our squad over the last 12 months, so now is the time to take the next obvious step, which is to introduce a quality manager from home or abroad to knit the team together. Will Tan do this ? Unlikely but never say never.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:59 pm

We aren't getting relegated.

Whether the manager stays next season depends on ambition. If they really want to go for promotion, which I doubt, then a manager with more pedigree would get better out of a strong squad.

We'll get the usual script in the summer of the "big plans" they have for the transfer window. But it will likely be more cost cutting.

If that's the case, Riza is better to take us forward than another low level and inexperienced manager.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:10 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:We aren't getting relegated.

Whether the manager stays next season depends on ambition. If they really want to go for promotion, which I doubt, then a manager with more pedigree would get better out of a strong squad.

We'll get the usual script in the summer of the "big plans" they have for the transfer window. But it will likely be more cost cutting.

If that's the case, Riza is better to take us forward than another low level and inexperienced manager.


Agreed. It's up to Tan whether he really wants to get serious about funding a promotion push but as you said, if not we could do a lot worse than sticking with Riza at the helm. Not a great prospect but better than dipping into Managerial Poundland market every season.

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:34 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:We aren't getting relegated.

Whether the manager stays next season depends on ambition. If they really want to go for promotion, which I doubt, then a manager with more pedigree would get better out of a strong squad.

We'll get the usual script in the summer of the "big plans" they have for the transfer window. But it will likely be more cost cutting.

If that's the case, Riza is better to take us forward than another low level and inexperienced manager.



Ned if he cost cuts again there is a 90% chance get relegated we are on the tipping point now .. and given riza is not exactly getting it right now how will he manage with cheap buys from predominantly lower league clubs? Anyway time will tell what direction club will go but got to fear for club..

Re: Omer Riza, Relegation and the MB

Wed Feb 19, 2025 4:45 pm

This squad under a decent manager is a comfortable mid table championship team with a small outside chance of sneaking into the playoffs

Make of that what you want !!

In fairness to Tan he has always put his hand in his pocket to support the club it’s how he and his cronies have spent this money is the problem

£millions wasted on mediocrity and doing it again and again