“ Very Worrying “

When We get Home Crowds this Low this season:

Fans won’t bother about renewing next season:



Riza followers will try to twist it But Sadly the Facts are their:

And Fans who say week in week out, well we expected to lose so a draw or small defeat is ok, WOW, DEFEATISTS MEANS ONE THING FAILURE:





The Facts:


They certainly don’t believe in the football we are playing as they are not turning up.

4 Wins in 21 League Games has resulted in this:

League Table Does not Lie

Nor do the fans believe in Riza

Defence one of the Worst in the Championship

Riza plays for draws and his inexperience is Costly.

Riza also Tinkers with the team week in week out and no consistency.

Took over in September after only 6 games and will by May have had 126 Points Available to Him.

It’s to late now, BUT WE NEED REAL EXPERIENCE IN NEXT SEASON END OFF:


Crowd 15,713 includes 483 away fans


ACTUALLY IN ATTENDANCE LESS THAN 12,000 FANS

SEASON TICKET SALES DWINDLING EVERY SEASON:

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Expected us to lose tonight but we played well so I'm happy.

Nothing has changed, still five clear of the bottom three.

We'll probably lose on Saturday so the Luton game is big.

But we're not getting relegated.

Good news is that the future is bright

I think if riza sets us up like he did second half then we will have enough to stay up, if he persists in starting off so negatively every game and only changes it once we're chasing the game then I think it will be squeaky bum time, this is on the manager the team is good enough to stay up but does riza have the balls to let the shackles off for 90 minutes

Its negative and defensive at home showed burnley to much respect.
When we go forward apart from the crosses in the box we looked good .
There's something missing and it's the belief and confidence that a good manager brings .
It's missing he looked totally done on the side line at two nil .
I hate to criticise but there's a good team in there why are we so easy to beat and score against.
Not riza fault the players can't cross a ball but it all forced late in the game no composure.
There's a lot that's a miss with us but it's the truth.
It's frustrating watching us play football. We are in serious trouble

Ned,

Is that Riza, Yours , Roath Blue and Tans Ambition to spend a whole season in the Bottom 5, WELL YOUR certainly in the Minority and as you can see the Crowds are not turning up because they certainly don’t want to.

We should not accept that we lose to the clubs near the top.


Sunderland by the way are not that great at home and we should be going there looking for points.

We start of games boring, looking to defend.

Against the Top 4 in 5 games we’ve conceded 20 goals appalling.

Inexperienced manager is the reason.

I think if riza sets us up like he did second half then we will have enough to stay up, if he persists in starting off so negatively every game and only changes it once we're chasing the game then I think it will be squeaky bum time, this is on the manager the team is good enough to stay up but does riza have the balls to let the shackles off for 90 minutes

Absolutely bob on its right

Ned,

Is that Riza, Yours , Roath Blue and Tans Ambition to spend a whole season in the Bottom 5, WELL YOUR certainly in the Minority and as you can see the Crowds are not turning up because they certainly don’t want to.

We should not accept that we lose to the clubs near the top.


Sunderland by the way are not that great at home and we should be going there looking for points.

We start of games boring, looking to defend.

Against the Top 4 in 5 games we’ve conceded 20 goals appalling.

Inexperienced manager is the reason.

This is what I mean when I say that Riza can use this season to learn.

He has the right ideas though so we can really push for the top six next season with the right signings and coaches.

Top six has to be the target next season and I believe Riza can get us there.

wasnt that bad the football, subs and tactic change was good. We let in two soft goals people leaving a man open, bad discipline

Ned,

Is that Riza, Yours , Roath Blue and Tans Ambition to spend a whole season in the Bottom 5, WELL YOUR certainly in the Minority and as you can see the Crowds are not turning up because they certainly don’t want to.

We should not accept that we lose to the clubs near the top.


Sunderland by the way are not that great at home and we should be going there looking for points.

We start of games boring, looking to defend.

Against the Top 4 in 5 games we’ve conceded 20 goals appalling.

Inexperienced manager is the reason.

Certainly isn’t my ambition and don’t want to see us down there next season again.

We have what we have been calling out for for years which is a good, well rounded striker who knows where the net is, and Salech I think can win us points on his own - he’s going to be very important for us next season.

Our defence is leaky and that needs to be fixed for sure.

Ned,

Is that Riza, Yours , Roath Blue and Tans Ambition to spend a whole season in the Bottom 5, WELL YOUR certainly in the Minority and as you can see the Crowds are not turning up because they certainly don’t want to.

We should not accept that we lose to the clubs near the top.


Sunderland by the way are not that great at home and we should be going there looking for points.

We start of games boring, looking to defend.

Against the Top 4 in 5 games we’ve conceded 20 goals appalling.

Inexperienced manager is the reason.

This is what I mean when I say that Riza can use this season to learn.

He has the right ideas though so we can really push for the top six next season with the right signings and coaches.

Top six has to be the target next season and I believe Riza can get us there.

Well the Crowds don’t believe and they will be less than this if Tans puppet stays:

League Table Does not Lie

Nor do the fans believe in Riza




Crowd 15,713 includes 483 away fans

Expected us to lose tonight but we played well so I'm happy.

Nothing has changed, still five clear of the bottom three.

We'll probably lose on Saturday so the Luton game is big.

But we're not getting relegated.

Good news is that the future is bright

Expected to lose tonight. I totally disagree with you .We are the home team and if we had more belief conference and we had a management team that instilled some conference we have some good players .there is no reason to expect to lose a game I'm this league .If you expect to lose you lose and that's are problem.No cardiff fan should expect to lose what the hell have we become nar I expected to win tonight and with a different mind set and more positive in our play we could have won .
They could of won tonight it's as simple as that

ive been harping on about riza since the away game at luton which we lost 1/nil i said at the time hes not the correct manager for us he plays to defensive with the set up to much passing along the back line sometimes then when we concede we play catch up then we actually look a decent side but its to late because we already behind i wont change my mind about riza hes to inexperinced for this fight at the bottom making draws dont get you up the league wins do especially at home whats happened to our set pieces? last season we scored loads of goals this we cant hardly hit a barn door

Expected us to lose tonight but we played well so I'm happy.

Nothing has changed, still five clear of the bottom three.

We'll probably lose on Saturday so the Luton game is big.

But we're not getting relegated.

Good news is that the future is bright

Expected to lose tonight. I totally disagree with you .We are the home team and if we had more belief conference and we had a management team that instilled some conference we have some good players .there is no reason to expect to lose a game I'm this league .If you expect to lose you lose and that's are problem.No cardiff fan should expect to lose what the hell have we become nar I expected to win tonight and with a different mind set and more positive in our play we could have won .
They could of won tonight it's as simple as that

Well said.

So if we are expecting to lose tonight against a team who draws many away games. We were home , how can anyone believe in Riza and make jokes that next season Riza will take us to the Premier League

All Season Bottom 5 / Absolutely Pathetic

Ned’s winding US up

We have good players

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ive been harping on about riza since the away game at luton which we lost 1/nil i said at the time hes not the correct manager for us he plays to defensive with the set up to much passing along the back line sometimes then when we concede we play catch up then we actually look a decent side but its to late because we already behind i wont change my mind about riza hes to inexperinced for this fight at the bottom making draws dont get you up the league wins do especially at home whats happened to our set pieces? last season we scored loads of goals this we cant hardly hit a barn door

Hardly ‘loads of goals’

This season we have scored 38 in 35 games. Average of 1.085 goals per game.

Last season was 53 goals in 46 games. average of 1.152 goals per game.

Not as if we were scoring 3 times the amount.

We’ve had injuries to Isaac Davies, and we’ve also had Kanga who couldn’t have a piss up in a brewery.

Both commentators commented on the poor crowd and dead atmosphere .
But some still say riza has nothing to do with poor crowds
All he does is manage the team and how we set up and play ffs.

Both commentators commented on the poor crowd and dead atmosphere .
But some still say riza has nothing to do with poor crowds
All he does is manage the team and how we set up and play ffs.

Yes but they are Muppets they also always Say how unlucky we are
And usually Say we are the better team.

I always watch the other clubs commentary

The only people to blame for the poor crowds are our fickle fans (I refuse to call them supporters). Back in the days in the dungeon and the old third division the football was very often dire but we turned out every game to support our club. We might have not agreed with the team the managers team selection or approved of what the chairmen were doing but still supported our club on the pitch.

Riza's going to keep us up, which is what he was brought in to do.

Brought in a good striker, which many of our recent managers have failed to do.

Said striker could've scored a hattrick against a team that only has conceded 9 all season.

Yes, no one likes losing matches but it's not all doom and gloom like you're trying to make out.

Personally I'd like to see a new manager in at the end of the season but Riza's doing alright at the minute.

Riza's going to keep us up, which is what he was brought in to do.

Brought in a good striker, which many of our recent managers have failed to do.

Said striker could've scored a hattrick against a team that only has conceded 9 all season.

Yes, no one likes losing matches but it's not all doom and gloom like you're trying to make out.

Personally I'd like to see a new manager in at the end of the season but Riza's doing alright at the minute.

What 4th from bottom of the Championship, 4 wins from 21 league games and crowds dwindling and spent the whole season in the bottom 5, that’s something to be positive about?

If Riza had taken over say in Jan / Feb or March and we were bottom then fair play, but Riza was here in Julybabd took totally over in September.

If that’s our ambition to just about carry up and win a handful of games, then for me and the majority that’s very worrying.

Riza is doing alright at the minute, 3rd worst minus goal average, 2nd worst defence in the Championship, 4 wins from 21 league games and including that 7-1 defeat plus we play games and go out to defend for a point, that’s what you call
Alright? That’s NO Ambition at all.

And the Crowd is the reason it is.

The only people to blame for the poor crowds are our fickle fans (I refuse to call them supporters). Back in the days in the dungeon and the old third division the football was very often dire but we turned out every game to support our club. We might have not agreed with the team the managers team selection or approved of what the chairmen were doing but still supported our club on the pitch.

That’s football fans, the majority are very fickle, but we have had 5 yrs of mainly struggling then this season the whole season of struggling.

I renew my season ticket every season NO matter what and have done for 53 consecutive seasons.
I will be flying back next Tuesday v Luton Town and yes we should get 20,000 for such a vital game but we won’t and it means the fickle fans are not impressed with Tan or Riza’s results.

I wonder if it would help if you stopped constantly promoting so much negativity on here? Maybe it gives the fickle more excuses not to go. Just a suggestion.

I wonder if it would help if you stopped constantly promoting so much negativity on here? Maybe it gives the fickle more excuses not to go. Just a suggestion.

I totally agree with this. Fed up of all the negativity on this board. particularly from Annis Abraham. Won't be logging on again.

Crowds are low but atmosphere last 2 Tuesdays have been pretty decent with those there making noise which is mainly as the team are playing decently.

All the negativity around the manager is not merited, we are playing far better than last season…… all this talk of experienced manager coming in well where are stoke with Mark Robbins introduction…… same points as us!!

I for one came away last night disappointed but upbeat…… if not for the woodwork and an unbelievable miss at the end we would have taken a point against a top team.

Derby and Plymouth are gone and we are in the mix for the final relegation spot with 5 or 6 others, next Tuesday is crucial and hopefully the armchair fans will turn up and support the team and we get the win.

I am in no way advocating his removal because that would be pointless at this stage of the season, I think they are playing for him and i don't think the squad is very good, but it's not 20th~24th bad. Talk of top 8 is insane IMO, maybe 12~16th at a push.

He has the hallmarks of Trollope, a great coach, a poor decision maker. I think he reads the game well and reacts thats why we have three or four positional changes a game. Its all modern coaching bollox, just like playing out from the back when its a 50/50 if their first touch kills the ball.

I think he can advise from the touchline, but he doesn't have the leadership skills at this point in his career. He spent a lot of time at youth level, it's a different strategy there, as we are trying to develop players for the future, so the results are not as important as the education and experience.

The problem is that all the managers he is facing come with higher reputations because most have achieved something so we set up as underdogs.

He is an assistant or needs to drop a few levels and find if he has any talent for this. Whatever league we are in he can not stay.

Expected us to lose tonight but we played well so I'm happy.

Nothing has changed, still five clear of the bottom three.

We'll probably lose on Saturday so the Luton game is big.

But we're not getting relegated.

Good news is that the future is bright

Our home form has been miserable for years, Riza needs to wake up. Our defence is a complete shambles, our crossing is absolute garbage, and the shooting is very bad. WTF do they do in training? The amount of passes that go astray is unbelievable, this is basics, kids in the street got better control. I hope that there's 3 teams worse than us and we survive, and get a proper manager in for next season.

Ive been patient with Riza, giving him a chance to learn and adjust, but nothing has changed in his tactics. We now have the players to stay up imo. Riza is now the problem (if Tan has to stay). He has to go at the end of the season, no point changing him now. Just hope we can scrape enough points to stay up or the club will implode.

Expected us to lose tonight but we played well so I'm happy.

Nothing has changed, still five clear of the bottom three.

We'll probably lose on Saturday so the Luton game is big.

But we're not getting relegated.

Good news is that the future is bright

Our home form has been miserable for years, Riza needs to wake up. Our defence is a complete shambles, our crossing is absolute garbage, and the shooting is very bad. WTF do they do in training? The amount of passes that go astray is unbelievable, this is basics, kids in the street got better control. I hope that there's 3 teams worse than us and we survive, and get a proper manager in for next season.

Agree re shooting and defending (what the heck is purse doing on coaching staff?) but Bagan put a superb cross in for Salech last night as did someone else when he hit the bar.
I thought our passing was ok too. We were up against a top championship side tbf.

I am in no way advocating his removal because that would be pointless at this stage of the season, I think they are playing for him and i don't think the squad is very good, but it's not 20th~24th bad. Talk of top 8 is insane IMO, maybe 12~16th at a push.

He has the hallmarks of Trollope, a great coach, a poor decision maker. I think he reads the game well and reacts thats why we have three or four positional changes a game. Its all modern coaching bollox, just like playing out from the back when its a 50/50 if their first touch kills the ball.

I think he can advise from the touchline, but he doesn't have the leadership skills at this point in his career. He spent a lot of time at youth level, it's a different strategy there, as we are trying to develop players for the future, so the results are not as important as the education and experience.

The problem is that all the managers he is facing come with higher reputations because most have achieved something so we set up as underdogs.

He is an assistant or needs to drop a few levels and find if he has any talent for this. Whatever league we are in he can not stay.

Great post

Crowds are low but atmosphere last 2 Tuesdays have been pretty decent with those there making noise which is mainly as the team are playing decently.

All the negativity around the manager is not merited, we are playing far better than last season…… all this talk of experienced manager coming in well where are stoke with Mark Robbins introduction…… same points as us!!

I for one came away last night disappointed but upbeat…… if not for the woodwork and an unbelievable miss at the end we would have taken a point against a top team.

Derby and Plymouth are gone and we are in the mix for the final relegation spot with 5 or 6 others, next Tuesday is crucial and hopefully the armchair fans will turn up and support the team and we get the win.

Me and my mate felt the same.

The only people to blame for the poor crowds are our fickle fans (I refuse to call them supporters). Back in the days in the dungeon and the old third division the football was very often dire but we turned out every game to support our club. We might have not agreed with the team the managers team selection or approved of what the chairmen were doing but still supported our club on the pitch.

That’s football fans, the majority are very fickle, but we have had 5 yrs of mainly struggling then this season the whole season of struggling.

I renew my season ticket every season NO matter what and have done for 53 consecutive seasons.
I will be flying back next Tuesday v Luton Town and yes we should get 20,000 for such a vital game but we won’t and it means the fickle fans are not impressed with Tan or Riza’s results.

Annis, I partly agree. Yes we deffo have fickle fans and our core fan base atm who turn up regardless for league games is around 15-17K.
I think we have lots of floaters who are influenced by the weather, football on tv, dissillusionment from the management at the top of the club.etc.
Like you, I will renew regardless as I have done for many years.
PS. Well done you for travelling back and forth as you do.