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RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:34 am

I thought he was an attacking coach?? This 5 at the back last night at home is nonsence, can he not see by now that we are not very good at defending?? Very few clean sheets this season, we usually go behind in games and we can't hold onto a lead. When we went at them in the 2nd half last night they were hanging on. So please, for the rest of the season at home have a go at these teams from the start not wait until we are behind and playing catch up.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:54 am

Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:37 am

Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.

Good points, Riza needs to play to our strengths and it ain't defending.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:53 am

Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:30 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


I don’t disagree we set up too defensive and play for draws.

But I do feel that the draws we have picked up are still points that accrue over the season and those points will be key to us staying up.

I do want us to play football, attacking football against all teams in the league. Especially now we have a younger squad who are more able to press and track back when needed.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:33 pm

Need to make a system to focus on Salech now, players who can play off him and get balls onto his head. He won nearly every header, we just need Robinson or Ashford to play off him

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:50 pm

The defensive tactics are not only affecting our points tally, but it’s also affecting our home attendance and atmosphere.

We need to attack at home, no matter who we play against in this league!

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:04 pm

The OP is spot on here! Last night was a bit of a carry on from the Villa game and our defence looked a bit flat on more than one occasion whilst letting in two defendable goals

Once we realised they could be opened up, we made a game of it and Salech became the first player to breach the Burnley defence for some considerable time. On another night, he might have had a hat trick

I am not as anti-Riza as some but he does need to be a bit braver, if we are to gather the points we need to stay up this season.
Thankfully, last night was our game in hand and against a very good side, so in reality not a lot lost and we are still ahead of the bottom three! :ayatollah:

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:09 pm

I thought that Riza got it spot on and we were unlucky not to get something.

All about opinions I guess.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:13 pm

Trouble is I think Riza picks his battles and last night the players let him down in the first half. Our defence took ball watching to a new level for the goals and I think it was always his pan to have a go in the second half. Clearly to me he was protecting the likes of Rambo and Robbo as we have more winnable battles ahead.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:19 pm

Logie wrote:Need to make a system to focus on Salech now, players who can play off him and get balls onto his head. He won nearly every header, we just need Robinson or Ashford to play off him

Also good points. :thumbup:

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:21 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:26 pm

montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs





Exactly Monty,

I think some like Roath Blue are just on a wind up.

Everyone can see that Riza has his Tactics Wrong.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 1:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs





Exactly Monty,

I think some like Roath Blue are just on a wind up.

Everyone can see that Riza has his Tactics Wrong.


As someone else also pointed out on this topic look at the attendance
Every game i have looked at this season on tv in the championship,

Our stadium looks by far the worse by a long way
This is clearly down to the way we play getting hammered or been to defensive etc and it all boils down to someone the reasons why.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:07 pm

cityone wrote:I thought he was an attacking coach?? This 5 at the back last night at home is nonsence, can he not see by now that we are not very good at defending?? Very few clean sheets this season, we usually go behind in games and we can't hold onto a lead. When we went at them in the 2nd half last night they were hanging on. So please, for the rest of the season at home have a go at these teams from the start not wait until we are behind and playing catch up.


Totally agree with you spot on

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:16 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs





Exactly Monty,

I think some like Roath Blue are just on a wind up.

Everyone can see that Riza has his Tactics Wrong.


Annis, can assure you I’m not on a wind up and I’m not sure why you’ve called me out about tactics comments.

It comes as no surprise that I believe Riza will keep us up. I stand by that.

The tactics thing, not sure what either yourself or Monty are on about.

I’ve posted multiple times saying we play too defensive and should be playing a more attacking line up and team.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:40 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs





Exactly Monty,

I think some like Roath Blue are just on a wind up.

Everyone can see that Riza has his Tactics Wrong.


Annis, can assure you I’m not on a wind up and I’m not sure why you’ve called me out about tactics comments.

It comes as no surprise that I believe Riza will keep us up. I stand by that.

The tactics thing, not sure what either yourself or Monty are on about.

I’ve posted multiple times saying we play too defensive and should be playing a more attacking line up and team.



Perhaps you should read the opening post again which is basically in agreement with what i and possibly annis has said about riza tactics but your not in agreement when i say it
Its called moaning not getting behind the manager bla bla his tactics have kept us where we are just outside the relegation spot and we have not moved away like pompey or QPR.
Thats my view riza is not the messiah we are still dicing with relagation.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:43 pm

montyblue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs





Exactly Monty,

I think some like Roath Blue are just on a wind up.

Everyone can see that Riza has his Tactics Wrong.


Annis, can assure you I’m not on a wind up and I’m not sure why you’ve called me out about tactics comments.

It comes as no surprise that I believe Riza will keep us up. I stand by that.

The tactics thing, not sure what either yourself or Monty are on about.

I’ve posted multiple times saying we play too defensive and should be playing a more attacking line up and team.



Perhaps you should read the opening post again which is basically in agreement with what i and possibly annis has said about riza tactics but your not in agreement when i say it
Its called moaning not getting behind the manager bla bla his tactics have kept us where we are just outside the relegation spot and we have not moved away like pompey or QPR.
Thats my view riza is not the messiah we are still dicing with relagation.


I said, in my first post ‘I can’t disagree with that’

Or are you turning a blind eye to that?

I’ve stated that there are things to improve on for Riza. I’ve said multiple times today alone we need to change tactics to play more attacking football but you’ve clearly not bothered to read them.

On your bike Monty not bothering to reply further when you clearly don’t give time to read comments anyway.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 8:58 pm

one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:29 pm

Roath_Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
montyblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Roath_Blue wrote:Can’t really disagree with that.

Now that we have Salech, along with Ramsey back fit who seems to get the best out of Rubin, we are much better going forward than we are at trying to defend.

Burnley have the best defence in the league, but when we took the game to them, we opened them up a number of times and Salech was unlucky not to get a Hat Trick.

We have seen we aren’t good at holding on to a lead when we do manage to score first, but we have also seen we can play some good football.

Ages old saying but Attack is the best form of Defence - would like to see us go out attacking from the start.



Wow Matt,

But if I say anything similar you will immediately disagree.

I have said non stop Riza plays for a draw and is to defensive.


ANNIS

You took the words right out of my mouth when i read that,
we have been saying this all season riza tactics are the reason we are where we are at the bottom end of this division
thats what we have been "moaning" about "concerned" about
But according to some,
riza is like the messiah saving our season ffs





Exactly Monty,

I think some like Roath Blue are just on a wind up.

Everyone can see that Riza has his Tactics Wrong.


Annis, can assure you I’m not on a wind up and I’m not sure why you’ve called me out about tactics comments.

It comes as no surprise that I believe Riza will keep us up. I stand by that.

The tactics thing, not sure what either yourself or Monty are on about.

I’ve posted multiple times saying we play too defensive and should be playing a more attacking line up and team.



Perhaps you should read the opening post again which is basically in agreement with what i and possibly annis has said about riza tactics but your not in agreement when i say it
Its called moaning not getting behind the manager bla bla his tactics have kept us where we are just outside the relegation spot and we have not moved away like pompey or QPR.
Thats my view riza is not the messiah we are still dicing with relagation.


I said, in my first post ‘I can’t disagree with that’

Or are you turning a blind eye to that?

I’ve stated that there are things to improve on for Riza. I’ve said multiple times today alone we need to change tactics to play more attacking football but you’ve clearly not bothered to read them.

On your bike Monty not bothering to reply further when you clearly don’t give time to read comments anyway.


Your missing the point
the point been you agree with cityone but not me but i am saying the same as him ,
i can see what you said so why have a go at me when i say the same as opening post i am now off on my bike.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:34 pm

desbluebird wrote:one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture


I don't think an experienced manager would have done better, Riza is doing a great job.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:10 am

desbluebird wrote:one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture

Yes we'll never know, but i totally agree with you. An experienced manager would certainly have us defending better than we do.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:21 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:
desbluebird wrote:one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture


I don't think an experienced manager would have done better, Riza is doing a great job.


Your saying someone like warnock would not do a better job than riza
How many promotions did he do he is retired now but your loving of riza is going totally overboard sadly

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:37 am

montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
desbluebird wrote:one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture


I don't think an experienced manager would have done better, Riza is doing a great job.


Your saying someone like warnock would not do a better job than riza
How many promotions did he do he is retired now but your loving of riza is going totally overboard sadly



He’s on a wind up, no one’s that deluded.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:18 pm

montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
desbluebird wrote:one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture


I don't think an experienced manager would have done better, Riza is doing a great job.


Your saying someone like warnock would not do a better job than riza
How many promotions did he do he is retired now but your loving of riza is going totally overboard sadly


Wouldn't want someone like Warnock anywhere near our club again actually, shouldn't even be anywhere near football in my view.

There's no point in even appointing new managers because people will write them off straight away. Some people decided from day one they didn't like Riza so refuse to praise him, even when he's doing well which he has done lately.

I'll say it again, we are in a better place than when he took over.

We have decent players but in general this is a bottom half squad so he's done well to get us five points clear - especially when some said we'd be relegated by March if he got the job.

Re: RIZA NEEDS TO STOP THESE TACTICS AT HOME

Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:29 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
montyblue wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
desbluebird wrote:one thing i think we can all agree on its been a really poor season i still think another more exprienced manager would of gotten more out of this side of course we will never know its just conjecture


I don't think an experienced manager would have done better, Riza is doing a great job.


Your saying someone like warnock would not do a better job than riza
How many promotions did he do he is retired now but your loving of riza is going totally overboard sadly


Wouldn't want someone like Warnock anywhere near our club again actually, shouldn't even be anywhere near football in my view.

There's no point in even appointing new managers because people will write them off straight away. Some people decided from day one they didn't like Riza so refuse to praise him, even when he's doing well which he has done lately.

I'll say it again, we are in a better place than when he took over.

We have decent players but in general this is a bottom half squad so he's done well to get us five points clear - especially when some said we'd be relegated by March if he got the job.


I am not saying bring in warnock i just said he is head and shoulders above riza so was making the point
that you said no one could have done a better job .