Next Seasons Manager debate

... But is it a debate?

I honestly can't recall anyone backing Riza to be manager next season. Apologies if there are , but Ive just not seen anyone who is supporting his application for next season. If Lamouchi was not given the job after the he helped save the club from a dire situation a few seasons back, then giving the job to Riza will simply heighten The Dictators 'Cant be bothered' attitude towards our club

Many are saying we have the ability in the squad and I tend to agree, so it must be down to the manager and the coaching (assuming the manager is allowed to manage and the coaches allowed to coach without Tans constant interference).

For me, I see a few managers more than worth a punt. We can be a capable club, a large draw for the right manager, so why do we not approach quality? I can tell you why it is; it is because nobody will work for such a madman as Tan.

If allowed to do the job, I'd be looking at the likes of;
Steve Cooper
Liam Rosenior
Gary O'Neill
Craig Bellamy ( Unlikely with the Dictator in charge)

Interesting to see in a few newspapers this morning we apparently approached dick advocaat to take over from riza but he turned us down
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/ ... ll-return/

Riza had the dreaded Vote of confidence after the Luton Home Game

I’ve been told if We had lost away at Blackburn, Riza’s Master was Sacking Him.

Riza had the dreaded Vote of confidence after the Luton Home Game

I’ve been told if We had lost away at Blackburn, Riza’s Master was Sacking Him.

Annis, that all ties in with what I was told. He was on his way after Luton, there was a late change of mind, then the win at Blackburn afforded him a bit more time to sort it out


The Dick Advocaat story (that’s all it is) made me laugh out loud! Dutch courage is not something that would be accepted in the corridors of our club!

Many are saying we have the ability in the squad and I tend to agree, so it must be down to the manager and the coaching (assuming the manager is allowed to manage and the coaches allowed to coach without Tans constant interference).

That's just supposition on your part as this squad has been underperforming under several managers. There comes a point when you can't just regurgitate an over simplistic answer if the result is the same, a Homer Simpson answer if ever I saw one. The best 3 players we signed have come under Riza's tenure. I'd like to think the recruitment process is improved now and I think maybe he'll have a window to sort this out. Your right about one thing though, you'll never get anyone you deem decent without a guaranteed budget.

Well you can forget about Bellamy and Cooper for a start. Bellamy is the Wales manager and will be for the foreseeable.

Cooper will go to a club with a much better quality squad.

Gary O'Neil perhaps a little more realistic and Rosenior wouldn't be difficult to get.

I'm still Nathan Jones. Give him a project.

I'm still Nathan Jones. Give him a project.

He's doing well at Charlton. They're in the play-offs at the moment so could be in the Championship next season.

Would our owner pay the compensation to release him from Charlton? I doubt it.

He's had the chance to bring in Jones a couple of times and not taken it so I don't see how this summer is any different. We know Jones would say yes to the job.

I'm still Nathan Jones. Give him a project.

He's doing well at Charlton. They're in the play-offs at the moment so could be in the Championship next season.

Would our owner pay the compensation to release him from Charlton? I doubt it.

He's had the chance to bring in Jones a couple of times and not taken it so I don't see how this summer is any different. We know Jones would say yes to the job.

Agreed to all. I just think he'd want to be here more than most, is 'about our size' appointment as in not too low or not over the top or in dreamland, and it seems when it clicks, he does a good job. I like him.

The Welsh/Cardiff Fan factor is 98.3% of my reasoning though

If (and it’s a big if at this stage) Riza keeps us up then imo Tan will give him a new contract for another season.

He’s the cheap option and Tan will feel good that who he chose came good in the end.

If it was to happen it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s gone by Xmas though.

But sorry i do believe if we stay up then Riza stays, maybe a transfer window and some good signings will see him last the entire season.

Just for clarity, this is my opinion of what will happen if we stay up, its not who I necessarily want in the role.

If (and it’s a big if at this stage) Riza keeps us up then imo Tan will give him a new contract for another season.

He’s the cheap option and Tan will feel good that who he chose came good in the end.

If it was to happen it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s gone by Xmas though.

But sorry i do believe if we stay up then Riza stays, maybe a transfer window and some good signings will see him last the entire season.

Just for clarity, this is my opinion of what will happen if we stay up, it’s not who I necessarily want in the role.

I do believe that Tan will do that also

Riza had the dreaded Vote of confidence after the Luton Home Game

I’ve been told if We had lost away at Blackburn, Riza’s Master was Sacking Him.

Annis, that all ties in with what I was told. He was on his way after Luton, there was a late change of mind, then the win at Blackburn afforded him a bit more time to sort it out


The Dick Advocaat story (that’s all it is) made me light out loud! Dutch courage is not something that would be accepted in the corridors of our club!

You were absolutely spot Chris.

Nathan Jones would be my dream appointment.

A completely different type of manager to switch everything up.

Also a mad Cardiff fan. No brainer.

Timing never seems to be right, though.

If riza stays i predict the lowest season ticket uptake in years,
we just keep getting worse since warnock,
harris,mc carthy, morrisson,hudson,lamouchi, bulut riza the worse out of that bunch. Bottom 5 all season.
I would not relish another season in the championship if we survive under riza
Nice bloke should not come into it,
i hated mc carthy but he won his first 10/12 games and if he would have kept it going that would have been great but he had the personality of a dish cloth ,
but its all about results,
and riza's results are there for all to see in the league table.

It will be Riza next season without a doubt. I don't think its about money but Vinnie will only give a year long contract. So forget any decent manager, as they would want longer to build a winning team.

Some great points here .
I rekon Nathan jones would be great here but can’t see tan paying .
BUT if riza is still here next week then I think we are going down , I just can’t see us winning enough games with him .
If we do stay up and he’s here next season then we are in big f*cking trouble even if he’s given money to buy players , he’s just not good enough

Dick Advocaat got to be creditable, he s 77 just what our 3 clowns would do

It’s a case of the same names being mentioned on every thread that talks about what happens when or if Riza goes.

I can’t figure out why the same names are being mentioned.

Steve Cooper isn’t going to come here, let’s be honest.

Nathan Jones has a project at Charlton and could end up in the Championship next season without needing to say yes sir no sir to Tan.

We could have gone after both of those, or Bilic when Tan gave Riza the job, but we didn’t.

Tan isn’t all of a sudden going to admit that he was wrong and change his entire ethos of hiring unfortunately.

Lets just say that " if we get relegated" ..... who would want to come here then ? If we go down i think Tan and his cronies will keep Riza. So lets get a few good and achieveable results and stay up !!! C'mon City ffs !!!

i think riza should of gone after the luton debacle just not good enough he should never been offered the job in first place i can see us being relegated this season its looking like its going to happen

Tan will keep Riza. Cheap and a yes man.

Nathan Jones would be my choice.

It's anyone's guess who will be available next season so pointless speculating! As for not getting enough wins to stay up?
Why do people think Luton plymouth are going to win 2 more than us? Other teams have hard runins ...its never over until fat lady sings and we haven't got to auditions yet!

Steve Cooper if we are ambitious

Risa will be here next year

Salech will be gone in the summer for 5m

we have to think about derby at the min as they hold the final place in the relegation fight and they on abit of a run

Any one who follows Welsh football and more so is a Cardiff city fan who, knows deep down Riza is the wrong man for the job. An inexperienced unknown given the task of succeeding in a relegation battle up against teams with much more experienced managers 3 of whom were touted for our managers job by many on this very forum.

The madness of Tan in making that appointment. It’s such a risk. Rizas first exposure to a permanent managers job, isn’t an end of season reboot, a pre-season or some mid table mid season assessments. It’s a relegation battle in the hardest league in Europe. Why would Tan take such a risk with all the money he invests to keep the club ticking over. Money that he wouldn’t be ploughing in if he let football men make the football decisions and not him. A risk to the clubs valuation if we get relegated, the humiliation in our anniversary year, and in Tans world risk being the man being remembered for taking us down and the despicable rebrand.

It’s no debate, because every time we have had a manager under Tans ownership , only once has he gone for a name that was on the bookies lists and even our lists on her e and other forums. Warnock. Since that appointment he has reverted back.

Cheap unattached yes men. So he can call up at half time and have a rant. So I’m not bothering putting any names forward to replace Riza, with this owner it’s a waste of time. Look at the list of managers he’s employed, none of those guys were on our wish lists! What I do know is Riza should never have been appointed and needs ti go now. And that Tan was playing with fire hiring him in the first place and not firing him after Luton.

Nothing personal against Riza, he comes across as a good bloke. He must have been in dreamland when offered the post.

We were technically relegated two years ago and here we are again. Tan OUT

Any one who follows Welsh football and more so is a Cardiff city fan who, knows deep down Riza is the wrong man for the job. An inexperienced unknown given the task of succeeding in a relegation battle up against teams with much more experienced managers 3 of whom were touted for our managers job by many on this very forum.

The madness of Tan in making that appointment. It’s such a risk. Rizas first exposure to a permanent managers job, isn’t an end of season reboot, a pre-season or some mid table mid season assessments. It’s a relegation battle in the hardest league in Europe. Why would Tan take such a risk with all the money he invests to keep the club ticking over. Money that he wouldn’t be ploughing in if he let football men make the football decisions and not him. A risk to the clubs valuation if we get relegated, the humiliation in our anniversary year, and in Tans world risk being the man being remembered for taking us down and the despicable rebrand.

It’s no debate, because every time we have had a manager under Tans ownership , only once has he gone for a name that was on the bookies lists and even our lists on her e and other forums. Warnock. Since that appointment he has reverted back.



Cheap unattached yes men. So he can call up at half time and have a rant. So I’m not bothering putting any names forward to replace Riza, with this owner it’s a waste of time. Look at the list of managers he’s employed, none of those guys were on our wish lists! What I do know is Riza should never have been appointed and needs ti go now. And that Tan was playing with fire hiring him in the first place and not firing him after Luton.

Nothing personal against Riza, he comes across as a good bloke. He must have been in dreamland when offered the post.

We were technically relegated two years ago and here we are again. Tan OUT

Totally agree with everything you commented on.

we have to think about derby at the min as they hold the final place in the relegation fight and they on abit of a run

Said couple weeks ago Oxford on poor run and once your on such a thing hard to get out of it ? A win against Wednesday is imperative because if we do a couple
Of teams could be below us after game so making our position better

Because I see our main priority to sort is our defence, I reckon we get that working properly and we’ll have a decent side.

With that in mind what about John Terry?
You may laugh but he’d not feck about, would demand players give their all for the shirt and of course has all the contacts you could wish for (ala Lampard).
It would be a decent project for him too.

we have to think about derby at the min as they hold the final place in the relegation fight and they on abit of a run

Said couple weeks ago Oxford on poor run and once your on such a thing hard to get out of it ? A win against Wednesday is imperative because if we do a couple
Of teams could be below us after game so making our position better

Oxford ain’t going down. Too much spirit and know how with Rowett.

Derby win three games still in relegation zone. Has to be frustrating that.

Stoke for me are looking poor.

we have to think about derby at the min as they hold the final place in the relegation fight and they on abit of a run

Said couple weeks ago Oxford on poor run and once your on such a thing hard to get out of it ? A win against Wednesday is imperative because if we do a couple
Of teams could be below us after game so making our position better

Oxford ain’t going down. Too much spirit and know how with Rowett.

Derby win three games still in relegation zone. Has to be frustrating that.

Stoke for me are looking poor.

Yes definitely stoke in mix really don't see how people are saying we will go down when there is 3 others above us that can easily fall....we know we've got good enough players after Blackburn time for riza to show he does learn from positive performances and substitutions.