Riza has to go

No matter where we end up the board should get in an experienced manager.
He is saying that yesterday second half we gave them too much room for them to play, then why did he not make subs then instead of waiting till they had scored. He is just not experienced enough, we do have the players as yesterdays first half showed, I thought that we would blow wednesday away after that first half.
There is not a lot more to be said about yesterdays match first half excellent, best football I have see for a long time but second half, Riza has questioned Cardiff City's mentality, I would question his mentality by not making subs as soon as we were under pressure.

I can see Derby who are on a winning run getting three points in their next game, which will put us in the bottom 3
It should never have come to this, and it all comes down to VT thinking he knows anything about football.

And if the rumours are true that he wants Riza to stay on as manager then he is going to lose a lot of city fans and therefore a lot of money including what he will lose in division 1
Sorry Vincent, the buck stops with you, either get a new manager in and support him, or accept one of the two genuine offers, that you have received and go now.

[100% Agree

Riza I am afraid like many agree should have gone bloody ages ago, should have gone after the QPR home diabolical shit show, its now become all a little to late and I have no doubt that we will get relegated to league 1 what happened after that will be absolutely demoralising and I can see us being in the lower league doldrums for many years to come.

I can’t argue with any of that.

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

No matter where we end up the board should get in an experienced manager.
He is saying that yesterday second half we gave them too much room for them to play, then why did he not make subs then instead of waiting till they had scored. He is just not experienced enough, we do have the players as yesterdays first half showed, I thought that we would blow wednesday away after that first half.
There is not a lot more to be said about yesterdays match first half excellent, best football I have see for a long time but second half, Riza has questioned Cardiff City's mentality, I would question his mentality by not making subs as soon as we were under pressure.

I can see Derby who are on a winning run getting three points in their next game, which will put us in the bottom 3
It should never have come to this, and it all comes down to VT thinking he knows anything about football.

And if the rumours are true that he wants Riza to stay on as manager then he is going to lose a lot of city fans and therefore a lot of money including what he will lose in division 1
Sorry Vincent, the buck stops with you, either get a new manager in and support him, or accept one of the two genuine offers, that you have received and go now.

Good post. Riza should never have been given the job in the first place and should certainly have been sacked after the Leeds shambles.

No matter where we end up the board should get in an experienced manager.
He is saying that yesterday second half we gave them too much room for them to play, then why did he not make subs then instead of waiting till they had scored. He is just not experienced enough, we do have the players as yesterdays first half showed, I thought that we would blow wednesday away after that first half.
There is not a lot more to be said about yesterdays match first half excellent, best football I have see for a long time but second half, Riza has questioned Cardiff City's mentality, I would question his mentality by not making subs as soon as we were under pressure.

I can see Derby who are on a winning run getting three points in their next game, which will put us in the bottom 3
It should never have come to this, and it all comes down to VT thinking he knows anything about football.

And if the rumours are true that he wants Riza to stay on as manager then he is going to lose a lot of city fans and therefore a lot of money including what he will lose in division 1
Sorry Vincent, the buck stops with you, either get a new manager in and support him, or accept one of the two genuine offers, that you have received and go now.

He should never have had the job in the first place and that just shows what tans all about,I don’t see Cardiff ever moving forward with tan still has owner personally I think we need a change at the top now

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

What’s the relevance of that to our current predicament?

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

What’s the relevance of that to our current predicament?

The top line, its too late. We'll need a manager, an assistant and at least three coaches. I can't see that happening.

As to the ramble about VT, the OP states his opinion that we will lose fans next season, I agree .

Lets be honest Tan is absolutely a crap football person but a very shrewd business person and I am sure Tan would have looked into before now the consequences of Cardiff getting relegated, he will make sure he comes out of the situation fine by selling any asset to him going the only ones to suffer will be the true supporters who love their club and support the club through think and thin.

We needed a manager after Bulut got sacked , we have a decent squad and no manager to guide them . Looks like he caused unrest when Bulut was in charge worst thing the board did was bring him into the club. Messaging fans to try and get them onside is so desperate.

Riza has to go whatever the outcome of yet another diabolical season.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

What’s the relevance of that to our current predicament?

The top line, its too late. We'll need a manager, an assistant and at least three coaches. I can't see that happening.

As to the ramble about VT, the OP states his opinion that we will lose fans next season, I agree .

Great post Llan I’m thinking maybe instead of the protest which the board don’t care about,we just stop renewing season tickets and attending matches until the board either leaves , or gives a plan for the future.

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

What’s the relevance of that to our current predicament?

The top line, its too late. We'll need a manager, an assistant and at least three coaches. I can't see that happening.

As to the ramble about VT, the OP states his opinion that we will lose fans next season, I agree .

But the relevance of something over 10 years back when we didn’t lose many fans as we were winning.

I honestly can't see us staying up this year I said after the Luton game away which we lost 1 nil hope he doesn't get the job unfortunately after that game I could see problems with his tactics team selection formation whatever you want to call it

What a great post this is , totally agree with everything you say

Not renuing ST will just add to the £12m+ club will lose if relegated its more likely to be £20m but another worry is there are several clubs in div1 and 2 that are acquiring new owners who have money and are keen to follow brum and Wrexham examples.... so getting back to championship will be a struggle with the loss of our best players which will certainly arise with relegation? Personally don't think tan understood the consequences of relegation to the club and to its income when he started this cost cutting regime because it was always going to end up in relegation history tells you thats what happens eventually.

Not renuing ST will just add to the £12m+ club will lose if relegated its more likely to be £20m but another worry is there are several clubs in div1 and 2 that are acquiring new owners who have money and are keen to follow brum and Wrexham examples.... so getting back to championship will be a struggle with the loss of our best players which will certainly arise with relegation? Personally don't think tan understood the consequences of relegation to the club and to its income when he started this cost cutting regime because it was always going to end up in relegation history tells you thats what happens eventually.

If a load of us don’t renew it may cause panic and the board might wake up. Can be a non renewal protest until changes are made. It will be difficult for us fans but this board are not listening. They need to run the club and be present to see what’s going on . This manager and coaching staff are stealing a living from us and taking us down. DP just laughing in the dugout while the team struggle on the pitch. Seen enough of it now.

Has to go, he’s way out of his depth, should never have been given the job. But this is Vincent Tan we are talking about. His decision to hire a rookie wannabe manager for a relegation battle. Utter madness just cos he’s a cheap yes man who knew Buluts players.

And if he goes which will amaze me you really trust Tan to replace him with experience? Purse will take over . It’s a shit storm and Tan stepping back from making football decisions a subject he knows F all about would have avoided all this. We could even be in the top half/ mid table with this decent squad

It’s all on Tan, you get what you pay for

Tan out

Not renuing ST will just add to the £12m+ club will lose if relegated its more likely to be £20m but another worry is there are several clubs in div1 and 2 that are acquiring new owners who have money and are keen to follow brum and Wrexham examples.... so getting back to championship will be a struggle with the loss of our best players which will certainly arise with relegation? Personally don't think tan understood the consequences of relegation to the club and to its income when he started this cost cutting regime because it was always going to end up in relegation history tells you thats what happens eventually.

You’re right Allan, I don’t think he does understand the consequences.

He is obviously a successful businessman, but football isn’t a ‘business’.

It’s a passion, where fans are invested for life not just for a couple of years, where children grow up wanting to be the players.

The owners who know nothing about football but have successful clubs do so by having a football man controlling the football side of things.

Riza isn’t the man to take us forward, but ultimately we are in this situation because of the decisions made by Tan and the two other non football men who are more interested in their other businesses.

What Llan said further up is true I believe.

Tan has already shown that he does not care about the protests. He still has the revenue from tickets and season tickets, merchandise, food and drink in the ground.

Remember, he is a businessman and ultimately what businessmen care about, is money.

I fully believe that to get his attention drawn to how bad the club is right now, a full boycott of going to games, buying season tickets and merchandise is the way forward.

Not renuing ST will just add to the £12m+ club will lose if relegated its more likely to be £20m but another worry is there are several clubs in div1 and 2 that are acquiring new owners who have money and are keen to follow brum and Wrexham examples.... so getting back to championship will be a struggle with the loss of our best players which will certainly arise with relegation? Personally don't think tan understood the consequences of relegation to the club and to its income when he started this cost cutting regime because it was always going to end up in relegation history tells you thats what happens eventually.

You’re right Allan, I don’t think he does understand the consequences.

He is obviously a successful businessman, but football isn’t a ‘business’.

It’s a passion, where fans are invested for life not just for a couple of years, where children grow up wanting to be the players.

The owners who know nothing about football but have successful clubs do so by having a football man controlling the football side of things.

Riza isn’t the man to take us forward, but ultimately we are in this situation because of the decisions made by Tan and the two other non football men who are more interested in their other businesses.

What Llan said further up is true I believe.

Tan has already shown that he does not care about the protests. He still has the revenue from tickets and season tickets, merchandise, food and drink in the ground.

Remember, he is a businessman and ultimately what businessmen care about, is money.

I fully believe that to get his attention drawn to how bad the club is right now, a full boycott of going to games, buying season tickets and merchandise is the way forward.

That is a good way to highlight fans dissifaction but no fans hurts team as well... relegation will hurt him far more as clubs value will drop like stone so investment will be lost or most of it same with dalman unless they find someone to hugely invest in club ? Like said several clubs getting new owners who are willing to invest to make clubs successful in way of brum Wrexham ..... tan as reaped what he sowed and if we survive this season certainly won't next season with same coaching setup...

Agreed, but we’re getting close to the point of no return. Would need to offer someone £1m to keep us up etc . I think we’ll be bottom 3 come Tuesday.

rearrange these words ...

has horse the bolted

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

What’s the relevance of that to our current predicament?

The top line, its too late. We'll need a manager, an assistant and at least three coaches. I can't see that happening.

As to the ramble about VT, the OP states his opinion that we will lose fans next season, I agree .

But the relevance of something over 10 years back when we didn’t lose many fans as we were winning.

But we did. Relegation meant we lost the Premier League tourists, the ones he hoped would replace the ungrateful loyalists.

Culture at any organization starts at the top and Tans' beligerance, Dalaman's apathy, and Choo's non-existence have rippled throughout the club. The management are understaffed, the players look lost, and the fans turn up expecting to be beaten.

Tan has made it easier to walk away, he could have rowed back at any time from 2013 comments, a simple "I got it wrong the fans are everything," even if you don't mean it, but he hasn't. He has pulled up the drawbridge and managed in isolated silence from afar. Tan doesn't seem to care, nor do I.

The 2013 comments until retracted are relevant because disenchanteds like me looks to them for confirmation that this isn't about loyalty anymore, he is taking the mick out of me and the club.

Riza looks scetchy as f**k he’s on the coke by the looks of him his head is fried

Whatever the outcome this season, a rethink is definitely needed, but it's irrelevant with this hierarchy in charge, it will be a continual of wrong decisions.

All of the coaching staff need replacing, it's barely league 2 standard and that's being generous!
Riza, Purse, Shaw and Ramasut, most clubs in the lower league wouldn't have a coaching set up like that.

If we go down, we keep Riza on or appoint another chancer that no decent club would have.

We could end up with someone like Steve Evans.

Last edited by Rydogsccfc on Sun Mar 30, 2025 8:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Riza looks scetchy as f**k he’s on the coke by the looks of him his head is fried

Was thinking the same looks like something out of a Danny Dyer movie

It's too late. Changing one person isn't going to help. We need the whole crew, and what's the likelihood of that with seven games to go?

When in moments like now i recall a different era, 28 February 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21604568

"A few were upset, but like in any business if we get 80% or 75% of the customers happy, with 20-25% not happy, that's fine," he said.

"If they don't want to come to support our business, that's fine. We need the majority."

He added: "I believe the change is for the better.

"And if you put in a lot of money, surely you have the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.


I think i am done as a season ticket holder, its a chore, the club needs change and attendance/money is all they care about

What’s the relevance of that to our current predicament?

The top line, its too late. We'll need a manager, an assistant and at least three coaches. I can't see that happening.

As to the ramble about VT, the OP states his opinion that we will lose fans next season, I agree .

But the relevance of something over 10 years back when we didn’t lose many fans as we were winning.

But we did. Relegation meant we lost the Premier League tourists, the ones he hoped would replace the ungrateful loyalists.

Culture at any organization starts at the top and Tans' beligerance, Dalaman's apathy, and Choo's non-existence have rippled throughout the club. The management are understaffed, the players look lost, and the fans turn up expecting to be beaten.

Tan has made it easier to walk away, he could have rowed back at any time from 2013 comments, a simple "I got it wrong the fans are everything," even if you don't mean it, but he hasn't. He has pulled up the drawbridge and managed in isolated silence from afar. Tan doesn't seem to care, nor do I.

The 2013 comments until retracted are relevant because disenchanteds like me looks to them for confirmation that this isn't about loyalty anymore, he is taking the mick out of me and the club.

I agree with what you’ve said, and agree that those comments are relevant.

They may have been said 13 years ago however it goes to show his mindset and the lack of respect to the fans.

He’s basically saying ‘I put the money in, I’ll do what I want’

Riza looks scetchy as f**k he’s on the coke by the looks of him his head is fried

Riza looks like someone that works in those money laundering vape shops on City Rd.

Riza looks scetchy as f**k he’s on the coke by the looks of him his head is fried

Riza looks like someone that works in those money laundering vape shops on City Rd.

You weren’t mistaken that’s him working there when the teams not training for the other 6 days a week