US Tariffs

This week they have played havoc with the stock market.

Some of my collegues who trade the stock market with me have lost a lot of money. Fortunately I gained from this week and a bit more so a good one for me. I trade Gold and DAX (European market) and their prices have gone up and down quicker that a prosecutes knickers in a brother. Hopefully next week prices will stable out and us traders can relax while we are going about our business.

So its the calm after the storm and every country is licking its wounds from it all. The UK has not done too bad with only 10% say against the EU of 20%. However, there are some distant Islands that have been hit with the highest tariffs. Problem here are these Islands are uninhabited and the only real life coming from one of them are a family of Penquins living there. It makes you wonder who is controlling us these days.

This week they have played havoc with the stock market.

Some of my collegues who trade the stock market with me have lost a lot of money. Fortunately I gained from this week and a bit more so a good one for me. I trade Gold and DAX (European market) and their prices have gone up and down quicker that a prosecutes knickers in a brother. Hopefully next week prices will stable out and us traders can relax while we are going about our business.

So its the calm after the storm and every country is licking its wounds from it all. The UK has not done too bad with only 10% say against the EU of 20%. However, there are some distant Islands that have been hit with the highest tariffs. Problem here are these Islands are uninhabited and the only real life coming from one of them are a family of Penquins living there. It makes you wonder who is controlling us these days.

It's a game of chess atm with the usa and rest of the world ,a lot of countries have now dropped there tariffs against usa , vietnam the latest this morning , stocks go up and down ,nows the time to buy in the dip , remember the down Jones shot up since the election in November so was at an all time high I bet in a couple of weeks it will recover, the losses yesterday mean nothing if you hold them long term.

Yes, equities are a long term investment (5 years minimum), although if you have a pension fund exposed to US stocks, perhaps don't look at the value right now, if you're of a delicate disposition.

If you're retiring right now, I'd be pretty pissed off with kamikaze Agent Orange and his Team Tango clowns.

Yes, equities are a long term investment (5 years minimum), although if you have a pension fund exposed to US stocks, perhaps don't look at the value right now, if you're of a delicate disposition.

If you're retiring right now, I'd be pretty pissed off with kamikaze Agent Orange and his Team Tango clowns.

It's still the same level as a year ago tho , it went through the roof after the election in November.

Yes, equities are a long term investment (5 years minimum), although if you have a pension fund exposed to US stocks, perhaps don't look at the value right now, if you're of a delicate disposition.

If you're retiring right now, I'd be pretty pissed off with kamikaze Agent Orange and his Team Tango clowns.

It's still the same level as a year ago tho , it went through the roof after the election in November.

Yes - I appreciate that but its a significant level of investment gain that's been wiped out by the actions of the unhinged clown and his Einstein level staff. This wouldn't have happened if you had a sane grown up in charge of the largest economy in the world.

Trump’s new tariffs aren’t a trade tweak—they’re the first move in a full-spectrum reset.

$9.2T in debt matures in 2025. Inflation lingers. Alliances are shifting. Lower yields free up fiscal room—without them, core spending gets pushed out and tariffs also bring in revenue.

Estimates suggest they could raise over $700 million within the first year.

That’s not a game-changer on its own, but it gives the Treasury a bit more room to maneuver—especially if paired with deficit cuts. All pre planned.

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

This week they have played havoc with the stock market.

Some of my collegues who trade the stock market with me have lost a lot of money. Fortunately I gained from this week and a bit more so a good one for me. I trade Gold and DAX (European market) and their prices have gone up and down quicker that a prosecutes knickers in a brother. Hopefully next week prices will stable out and us traders can relax while we are going about our business.

So its the calm after the storm and every country is licking its wounds from it all. The UK has not done too bad with only 10% say against the EU of 20%. However, there are some distant Islands that have been hit with the highest tariffs. Problem here are these Islands are uninhabited and the only real life coming from one of them are a family of Penquins living there. It makes you wonder who is controlling us these days.

It's a game of chess atm with the usa and rest of the world ,a lot of countries have now dropped there tariffs against usa , vietnam the latest this morning , stocks go up and down ,nows the time to buy in the dip , remember the down Jones shot up since the election in November so was at an all time high I bet in a couple of weeks it will recover, the losses yesterday mean nothing if you hold them long term.

Yes countries drop tariff against usa why? Because trump like other things hes done since coming in is bullying anything that moves to get his way and doesn't give a toss how many countries it hurts or how many peoples lives he as destroyed with his policies home or abroad... if anyone dare not to agree with him they're sacked or removed from their post and another lapdog moves in.... leader of free world more like leader of the gang...

I live in Florida, and there’s a lot of noise - media in overdrive and there’s always a narrative to suit their agenda.

This isn’t about Trump or Biden.

It’s not about Democrats or Republicans.

This is what happens when fiscal malpractice becomes bipartisan tradition.

– The Iraq War cost trillions with no clear objective.

– Medicare Part D added a massive unfunded liability.

– TARP bailed out Wall Street at the expense of Main Street.

– Quantitative easing inflated assets while wages stagnated.

Each crisis brought the same “solution”:

More spending. More debt. More printing. More moral hazard.

And now we wonder why people are disillusioned – why trust in government is collapsing – why @DOGE feels more honest than the dollar.

This isn’t new.

This is the compounding effect of decades of mismanagement finally reaching the surface.

I have been buying for a long time and will keep buying Bitcoin. Decentralised and an inflation hedge.

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

Nonsense allan it's about lowering intrest rates and resting the debt

This week they have played havoc with the stock market.

Some of my collegues who trade the stock market with me have lost a lot of money. Fortunately I gained from this week and a bit more so a good one for me. I trade Gold and DAX (European market) and their prices have gone up and down quicker that a prosecutes knickers in a brother. Hopefully next week prices will stable out and us traders can relax while we are going about our business.

So its the calm after the storm and every country is licking its wounds from it all. The UK has not done too bad with only 10% say against the EU of 20%. However, there are some distant Islands that have been hit with the highest tariffs. Problem here are these Islands are uninhabited and the only real life coming from one of them are a family of Penquins living there. It makes you wonder who is controlling us these days.

It's a game of chess atm with the usa and rest of the world ,a lot of countries have now dropped there tariffs against usa , vietnam the latest this morning , stocks go up and down ,nows the time to buy in the dip , remember the down Jones shot up since the election in November so was at an all time high I bet in a couple of weeks it will recover, the losses yesterday mean nothing if you hold them long term.

Yes countries drop tariff against usa why? Because trump like other things hes done since coming in is bullying anything that moves to get his way and doesn't give a toss how many countries it hurts or how many peoples lives he as destroyed with his policies home or abroad... if anyone dare not to agree with him they're sacked or removed from their post and another lapdog moves in.... leader of free world more like leader of the gang...

Yes that's leadership and usa 1st that no secret.

Trump’s new tariffs aren’t a trade tweak—they’re the first move in a full-spectrum reset.

$9.2T in debt matures in 2025. Inflation lingers. Alliances are shifting. Lower yields free up fiscal room—without them, core spending gets pushed out and tariffs also bring in revenue.

Estimates suggest they could raise over $700 million within the first year.

That’s not a game-changer on its own, but it gives the Treasury a bit more room to maneuver—especially if paired with deficit cuts. All pre planned.

Agree trump needs intrest rates down .

$700m? Billions are being added to US debt every week….

$700m? Billions are being added to US debt every week….

6 trillion over 5 years the tariffs apparently will raise.

$700m? Billions are being added to US debt every week….

6 trillion over 5 years the tariffs apparently will raise.

How many jobs will usa lose? Will tariffs be permanent given he changes like the weather? We musnt forget tariffs effect usa consumers and businesses as much as the world! He may have a point in certain things but being a bully and bull in China shop attitude is not right way to go about things...

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Yes, equities are a long term investment (5 years minimum), although if you have a pension fund exposed to US stocks, perhaps don't look at the value right now, if you're of a delicate disposition.

If you're retiring right now, I'd be pretty pissed off with kamikaze Agent Orange and his Team Tango clowns.

If someone is retiring now. They should have been moving their pension funds into cash/gilts on a structured basis over the last 4 -5 years. If they’re still fully invested, they’ve been very badly advised.
I appreciate Trumpy is causing havoc, but can’t blame him for everything

I don’t think trump is too far wrong with his thinking and I think this is only a show of strength before sitting at negotiating tables with each country.

Have you seen the interview with Opera in 1980 where he’s talking about exactly this?

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Allan, there is a new Sheriff in Town, get used to it.

Not an old doddering buffoon who couldn't string 2 sentences together.......never mind walk off stage or, wait for it, walk up a set of stairs!!! Crikey, that's a big ask!

Also you seem to have missed Trump's MAIN point. These are RECIPRICAL tariffs, I know you understand what that means, even though in some case he has only fought back with 50% of the tariffs charged to the USA.

It's quite simple, if we don't charge the USA with tariffs, they won't charge us.......sounds fair to me.

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Allan, there is a new Sheriff in Town, get used to it.

Not an old doddering buffoon who couldn't string 2 sentences together.......never mind walk off stage or, wait for it, walk up a set of stairs!!! Crikey, that's a big ask!

Also you seem to have missed Trump's MAIN point. These are RECIPRICAL tariffs, I know you understand what that means, even though in some case he has only fought back with 50% of the tariffs charged to the USA.

It's quite simple, if we don't charge the USA with tariffs, they won't charge us.......sounds fair to me.

Yes they're reciprocal but they're NOT really, the numbers are very random with no basis for most of them, you & I could have done a better job of it. Not sure what penguins have done to deserve tariffs either.

I hear you CA, so I guess it's quite simple, charge NO tariffs and let the markets decide. Just a thought...

P.S. "I'm an Economist, I went to the London School of Economics, and studied Economics and then worked for the Bank of England as an Economist" Ring any bells?

Can you imagine the outrage if Biden had done this? Double standards eh.

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Allan, there is a new Sheriff in Town, get used to it.

Not an old doddering buffoon who couldn't string 2 sentences together.......never mind walk off stage or, wait for it, walk up a set of stairs!!! Crikey, that's a big ask!

Also you seem to have missed Trump's MAIN point. These are RECIPRICAL tariffs, I know you understand what that means, even though in some case he has only fought back with 50% of the tariffs charged to the USA.

It's quite simple, if we don't charge the USA with tariffs, they won't charge us.......sounds fair to me.

Yes they're reciprocal but they're NOT really, the numbers are very random with no basis for most of them, you & I could have done a better job of it. Not sure what penguins have done to deserve tariffs either.

A new sherif who would gladly blow up any country who disagrees with him and sack people who disagree with him! As CA says what have penguins done to deserve tariffs? On serious note we all know why that happened he simply used data that was wrong if did it to penguins it shows the whole plan is flawed but there again only he musk and his deciples think the figures match up...
But what do I know I only yet my information from usa commentators ect

This will get worse, he doesn’t back down or admit he’s wrong.

This is a massive indirect tax on Americans:

Tariffs set
Prices go up
Americans pay more
Federal government reaps the cash from the tariffs

America is a massive market but nowhere near the size of the World economy he is taking on.

China stopping supply of rare earth materials need by USA, USA have deal with Ukraine, want Greenland and Canada… why they have these materials.

To build plants in the US will take three or four years.

This will end in tears, depression and/or War.

https://youtu.be/6BJYbn4MppM?si=jh7G0rUTaFTJ5aSP

It’s not like it’s something he’s just come up with, although the penguin islands are quite funny

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Allan, there is a new Sheriff in Town, get used to it.

Not an old doddering buffoon who couldn't string 2 sentences together.......never mind walk off stage or, wait for it, walk up a set of stairs!!! Crikey, that's a big ask!

Also you seem to have missed Trump's MAIN point. These are RECIPRICAL tariffs, I know you understand what that means, even though in some case he has only fought back with 50% of the tariffs charged to the USA.

It's quite simple, if we don't charge the USA with tariffs, they won't charge us.......sounds fair to me.

Yes they're reciprocal but they're NOT really, the numbers are very random with no basis for most of them, you & I could have done a better job of it. Not sure what penguins have done to deserve tariffs either.

A new sherif who would gladly blow up any country who disagrees with him and sack people who disagree with him! As CA says what have penguins done to deserve tariffs? On serious note we all know why that happened he simply used data that was wrong if did it to penguins it shows the whole plan is flawed but there again only he musk and his deciples think the figures match up...
But what do I know I only yet my information from usa commentators ect

Back to the point Allan, and I'm not being blase about the penguins, I literally haven't got a clue what that is about but obviously a headline grabber for the fake news in the USA.......let me guess, CNN? MSNBC? I'm guessing your "US Commentators" are found on these channels?

If you would like a more balanced view take a look at Fox News, as well as those channels. 2 totally different stories.

The equivalent here would be to just watch the BBC!!!!! and we all know where that has led us!

I digress, back to the point........reciprocal tariffs........what is the problem with that? Just asking like....

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Allan, there is a new Sheriff in Town, get used to it.

Not an old doddering buffoon who couldn't string 2 sentences together.......never mind walk off stage or, wait for it, walk up a set of stairs!!! Crikey, that's a big ask!

Also you seem to have missed Trump's MAIN point. These are RECIPRICAL tariffs, I know you understand what that means, even though in some case he has only fought back with 50% of the tariffs charged to the USA.

It's quite simple, if we don't charge the USA with tariffs, they won't charge us.......sounds fair to me.

Yes they're reciprocal but they're NOT really, the numbers are very random with no basis for most of them, you & I could have done a better job of it. Not sure what penguins have done to deserve tariffs either.

A new sherif who would gladly blow up any country who disagrees with him and sack people who disagree with him! As CA says what have penguins done to deserve tariffs? On serious note we all know why that happened he simply used data that was wrong if did it to penguins it shows the whole plan is flawed but there again only he musk and his deciples think the figures match up...
But what do I know I only yet my information from usa commentators ect

Back to the point Allan, and I'm not being blase about the penguins, I literally haven't got a clue what that is about but obviously a headline grabber for the fake news in the USA.......let me guess, CNN? MSNBC? I'm guessing your "US Commentators" are found on these channels?

If you would like a more balanced view take a look at Fox News, as well as those channels. 2 totally different stories.

The equivalent here would be to just watch the BBC!!!!! and we all know where that has led us!

I digress, back to the point........reciprocal tariffs........what is the problem with that? Just asking like....

Actually don't use the outlets you mentioned more like broad spectrum of journalists that post online platforms and certainly not the bbc... but i have said he as a point but its the crass way he's doing things it is nothing short of threats/bullying to countries if you dont tow his line I will punish you!
As for penguins he's put tariffs on the their island plus other uninhabited places and his speech other day he said was putting tariffs on fentanhol drugs? As if the cartel declared them at customs ?? This is what brings his policies into question how much care he's taken on setting out tariffs.... and as I've said most analysts question is methodology in arriving at the figures he's quoted? It's just a chaotic situation that helps no-one

Trump and his lackies made up this policy over 4wks on back of cigarette packet.... undoing 70/80yrs of financial practices, not one analyst understands it as Trump as lied through his arse about figures ...only dome Americans think its a good idea......ffs in his speech he says will put a levy on ventanol drugs from the cartel? All can say is someone is making or going to make a lot of money from this.

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m afraid, it’s all in the thread and you’re ignoring the points raised.

That's OK but what I said is not BS that's coming out from trump... it did take just 4wks to formalise according to reports unless of course he planned everything as soon as got into office? ... financial analysts don't relate to the figures he quotes ..could go on but pointless it appears... and the forum is about having a viewpoint which can expand depending on a person's opinion..
Anyway leave you to it.

Allan, there is a new Sheriff in Town, get used to it.

Not an old doddering buffoon who couldn't string 2 sentences together.......never mind walk off stage or, wait for it, walk up a set of stairs!!! Crikey, that's a big ask!

Also you seem to have missed Trump's MAIN point. These are RECIPRICAL tariffs, I know you understand what that means, even though in some case he has only fought back with 50% of the tariffs charged to the USA.

It's quite simple, if we don't charge the USA with tariffs, they won't charge us.......sounds fair to me.

Yes they're reciprocal but they're NOT really, the numbers are very random with no basis for most of them, you & I could have done a better job of it. Not sure what penguins have done to deserve tariffs either.

A new sherif who would gladly blow up any country who disagrees with him and sack people who disagree with him! As CA says what have penguins done to deserve tariffs? On serious note we all know why that happened he simply used data that was wrong if did it to penguins it shows the whole plan is flawed but there again only he musk and his deciples think the figures match up...
But what do I know I only yet my information from usa commentators ect

Back to the point Allan, and I'm not being blase about the penguins, I literally haven't got a clue what that is about but obviously a headline grabber for the fake news in the USA.......let me guess, CNN? MSNBC? I'm guessing your "US Commentators" are found on these channels?

If you would like a more balanced view take a look at Fox News, as well as those channels. 2 totally different stories.

The equivalent here would be to just watch the BBC!!!!! and we all know where that has led us!

I digress, back to the point........reciprocal tariffs........what is the problem with that? Just asking like....

Actually don't use the outlets you mentioned more like broad spectrum of journalists that post online platforms and certainly not the bbc... but i have said he as a point but its the crass way he's doing things it is nothing short of threats/bullying to countries if you dont tow his line I will punish you!
As for penguins he's put tariffs on the their island plus other uninhabited places and his speech other day he said was putting tariffs on fentanhol drugs? As if the cartel declared them at customs ?? This is what brings his policies into question how much care he's taken on setting out tariffs.... and as I've said most analysts question is methodology in arriving at the figures he's quoted? It's just a chaotic situation that helps no-one

I hear you Ian, but not one person has answered the question of equality i.e. you charge me 10% and I'll charge you the same?

Trump is a disruptor, he's here to shake up the status quo. I guess the question I would ask is "Are you happy with the status quo?"

If so, that's fine and good luck to you. If not, you are in a growing majority of Americans and Brits who realise that there needs to be a massive shake up and overhaul of all facets of our "supposed" democracy. I say "supposed" because 5.5 million Britons are not allowed to vote on 1st May.

Trump knows the cards he is holding, and unfortunately for us, we are sitting on a 2-7 off suit whilst he's holding Aces.

The globalists are annoyed with Trump, but they never invited him into their world, and I don't see a way he'll listen now.

Trump likes to believe he is a billionaire, but he is not; he is small fry. But i bet he is a lot richer by the end of this term

Since the millennium, the NASDAQ has risen by 500% (4000 > 20000), but i see few benefits for the working man. My mum never worked, and we lived well. My wife had to work for us to maintain the same standard, and my kids will be lucky to own a house.

This will pass, stock markets go up and down, I bet there are few pissed off bankers in in Canary Wharf though, last day of the UK tax year bonuses torpedoed

Oil will offset some increases that's big in the states, this will eventually make the FED reduce rates to stimulate the economy.

US companies will agree to relocate back and Trump will relax component tariffs. He goes big and rows back.

This does hurt China, Germany and Ireland a lot more than America.