" It's too late now "

Our club have had numerous opportunities to replace Riza with a manager who has experience.

They didn't take them.

The last of those opportunities was the international break after Blackburn. We won that game but it was obvious we were on a downward spiral.

My honest opinion is it's too late now.

Less managers are available and any new manager would have no honeymoon period to get himself used to the club. With our tough run in, it would be even harder for them to get the points needed - so any manager approached would think it's better to see what jobs come up in the summer.

So I see Riza being in charge until the season ends. I've tried to support him and build him up.

But even I have to admit that relegation is highly likely now.

Come on mate, your positivity kept me from going insane on here haha

18 points are on the table. I dont think Riza gets us 5 of them. That leaves 46 in total, which is most definately L1. Riza had a handful of opportunities in Feb and March.

Whilst I dont think we'll do anything, it depends what we want. I'd like to stay up; current trend and 'do nothing' is relegation.

Any manager with experience and know how to set up a team of generally good players would keep us up, Riza has no clue how to do that. Who though is the problem and lets be honest who would want to come.

Any manager with experience and know how to set up a team of generally good players would keep us up, Riza has no clue how to do that. Who though is the problem and lets be honest who would want to come.

Exactly my point.

Why would a decent manager come in now and more than likely have a relegation on their CV?

They can wait until the summer and get a job then.

If it was me who was looking to manage a club, I'd wait a couple of months until more jobs come up at the end of the season.

The club had their chance and they bottled it.

Come on mate, your positivity kept me from going insane on here haha

Sorry to disappoint.

The only option left is to possibly put Purse in charge or Ramsey/Ralls. I said at the time of the Blackburn win that it would possibly relegate us as it kept the out of depth Riza in charge. We have no choice but to stick with him now. The negativity around the club is huge, never seen the fanbase so uniited in disbelief. BUT we are not down yet. Its goal difference between us and Derby. A win can change the dynamic very quickly and maybe we can get lucky. All this out pouring of negativity wont help right now. We have get behind the team as many are young and inexperienced. If we go down we go down. When its official thats the time to then turn on Riza and the board.

The only option left is to possibly put Purse in charge or Ramsey/Ralls. I said at the time of the Blackburn win that it would possibly relegate us as it kept the out of depth Riza in charge. We have no choice but to stick with him now. The negativity around the club is huge, never seen the fanbase so uniited in disbelief. BUT we are not down yet. Its goal difference between us and Derby. A win can change the dynamic very quickly and maybe we can get lucky. All this out pouring of negativity wont help right now. We have get behind the team as many are young and inexperienced. If we go down we go down. When its official thats the time to then turn on Riza and the board.

I get your point and I totally understand it.

I said at one point that we could get to the PL with Riza. Now I didn't 100% believe it but what I was doing was trying to install some positivity.

But we've had that sucked out of us. Not just this season, but probably every season since Neil Harris left. Last season we weren't in trouble but it wasn't exactly exciting.

So I don't see the mood in the fanbase changing and unfortunately that will get into the players' minds. An experienced manager can work around that but I no longer think Riza can.

So it is downbeat everywhere, but I don't think the fans can be blamed for that - which I accept you weren't doing, just making a general point.

The only option left is to possibly put Purse in charge or Ramsey/Ralls. I said at the time of the Blackburn win that it would possibly relegate us as it kept the out of depth Riza in charge. We have no choice but to stick with him now. The negativity around the club is huge, never seen the fanbase so uniited in disbelief. BUT we are not down yet. Its goal difference between us and Derby. A win can change the dynamic very quickly and maybe we can get lucky. All this out pouring of negativity wont help right now. We have get behind the team as many are young and inexperienced. If we go down we go down. When its official thats the time to then turn on Riza and the board.

I get your point and I totally understand it.

I said at one point that we could get to the PL with Riza. Now I didn't 100% believe it but what I was doing was trying to install some positivity.

But we've had that sucked out of us. Not just this season, but probably every season since Neil Harris left. Last season we weren't in trouble but it wasn't exactly exciting.

So I don't see the mood in the fanbase changing and unfortunately that will get into the players' minds. An experienced manager can work around that but I no longer think Riza can.

So it is downbeat everywhere, but I don't think the fans can be blamed for that - which I accept you weren't doing, just making a general point.

Totally understand how fans feel. It hurts and I am tired of having most weekends ruined! I think I am just coming to terms with we are probably going down now. If we do we do. But it ain't over til the fat lady sings and we have every chance still so we may as well park the negativity until it really is all over.

The only option left is to possibly put Purse in charge or Ramsey/Ralls. I said at the time of the Blackburn win that it would possibly relegate us as it kept the out of depth Riza in charge. We have no choice but to stick with him now. The negativity around the club is huge, never seen the fanbase so uniited in disbelief. BUT we are not down yet. Its goal difference between us and Derby. A win can change the dynamic very quickly and maybe we can get lucky. All this out pouring of negativity wont help right now. We have get behind the team as many are young and inexperienced. If we go down we go down. When its official thats the time to then turn on Riza and the board.

I get your point and I totally understand it.

I said at one point that we could get to the PL with Riza. Now I didn't 100% believe it but what I was doing was trying to install some positivity.

But we've had that sucked out of us. Not just this season, but probably every season since Neil Harris left. Last season we weren't in trouble but it wasn't exactly exciting.

So I don't see the mood in the fanbase changing and unfortunately that will get into the players' minds. An experienced manager can work around that but I no longer think Riza can.

So it is downbeat everywhere, but I don't think the fans can be blamed for that - which I accept you weren't doing, just making a general point.

Totally understand how fans feel. It hurts and I am tired of having most weekends ruined! I think I am just coming to terms with we are probably going down now. If we do we do. But it ain't over til the fat lady sings and we have every chance still so we may as well park the negativity until it really is all over.

My thoughts exactly mate.

League 1, may be the best thing for us.
Certainly in regards to our owners as it may just be the straw which breaks the camels back.

The Finances of the premier league are great but that's it, getting beaten by protected teams week in and week out isn't the best viewing and it's always a one season trip up there.

Further we are away from that league, the less likely certain people may want to remain at our club.

City were in the old 4th division when I started following them. MOST of my fondest and earliest memories came from the lower leagues.

The only option left is to possibly put Purse in charge or Ramsey/Ralls.

It's not though, is it?

There used to be a micro-economy of "great escape" managers who would come in with 6 games to go for (likely) big money/short term deals.

Do I think we'd do something like this - no. Do I think we need it - 100% yes.

The players are playing with fear. This is management.

It certainly feels like its to late and we are sliding down the trap door. I seriously feared this during the awful Buluts reign in parallel with the broken promises, cost cutting and spin off the pitch.

Inexperienced, naive and out of depth manager and coaching staff
Our relegation rivals have more experienced managers, and though not been great, have been in better form than us.
Our fanbase is on its knees with optimism having been sucked out of us
No leaders on the pitch
Historic on pitch problems remain unfixed
Historic off pitch problems getting worse

Easy to blame the hapless Riza, for me he may possibly have overtaken Bulut and Trollope as the worst City manager in recent times, all the blame is on Tan. Riza was hardly going to say no when offered his first full time managers post was he? And he certainly wont resign from the highest salary he has had. Blame Tan for sticking with him after Oxford and Leeds. Blame Tan for not reviewing our technical relegation 2 years ago and implementing change to avoid a repeat. If you dont change , nothing changes. And he wont get rid of Riza now. Here we are again and this time with no Reading to save us. And a drained, unaccountable rabbit in the headlights rookie manager.

Tans decision making in our anniversary year has sunk to new depths and madness. And stinks of someone who doesn't care.
Protest and march
TAN DALMAN CHOO OUT

It certainly feels like its to late and we are sliding down the trap door. I seriously feared this during the awful Buluts reign in parallel with the broken promises, cost cutting and spin off the pitch.

Inexperienced, naive and out of depth manager and coaching staff
Our relegation rivals have more experienced managers, and though not been great, have been in better form than us.
Our fanbase is on its knees with optimism having been sucked out of us
No leaders on the pitch
Historic on pitch problems remain unfixed
Historic off pitch problems getting worse

Easy to blame the hapless Riza, for me he may possibly have overtaken Bulut and Trollope as the worst City manager in recent times, all the blame is on Tan. Riza was hardly going to say no when offered his first full time managers post was he? And he certainly wont resign from the highest salary he has had. Blame Tan for sticking with him after Oxford and Leeds. Blame Tan for not reviewing our technical relegation 2 years ago and implementing change to avoid a repeat. If you dont change , nothing changes. And he wont get rid of Riza now. Here we are again and this time with no Reading to save us. And a drained, unaccountable rabbit in the headlights rookie manager.

Tans decision making in our anniversary year has sunk to new depths and madness. And stinks of someone who doesn't care.
Protest and march
TAN DALMAN CHOO OUT

Couldn't have put that better if i tried, great post.

It certainly feels like its to late and we are sliding down the trap door. I seriously feared this during the awful Buluts reign in parallel with the broken promises, cost cutting and spin off the pitch.

Inexperienced, naive and out of depth manager and coaching staff
Our relegation rivals have more experienced managers, and though not been great, have been in better form than us.
Our fanbase is on its knees with optimism having been sucked out of us
No leaders on the pitch
Historic on pitch problems remain unfixed
Historic off pitch problems getting worse

Easy to blame the hapless Riza, for me he may possibly have overtaken Bulut and Trollope as the worst City manager in recent times, all the blame is on Tan. Riza was hardly going to say no when offered his first full time managers post was he? And he certainly wont resign from the highest salary he has had. Blame Tan for sticking with him after Oxford and Leeds. Blame Tan for not reviewing our technical relegation 2 years ago and implementing change to avoid a repeat. If you dont change , nothing changes. And he wont get rid of Riza now. Here we are again and this time with no Reading to save us. And a drained, unaccountable rabbit in the headlights rookie manager.

Tans decision making in our anniversary year has sunk to new depths and madness. And stinks of someone who doesn't care.
Protest and march
TAN DALMAN CHOO OUT

Yes ultimately it lies with tan,
but riza talks a load of shite and winds me up with his lame excuses we told mick mc carthy in no uncertain terms whst we though but strangly everyone wants to go easy on riza,
if he riza things he has the fans backing things will never change from himself or tan
Now dalhman has stepped in to quash any protest .

who on earth would tan replace riza???
cant trust the board to get a signing right let alone on time.
if we replace riza we will be relegated before they appoint a new manager in.
pointless as we are in the dog fight until the end of this season.
that decision will be made after the season and by then i dont think tan will get rid of him.
I think he will walk away if we were relegated.

who on earth would tan replace riza???
cant trust the board to get a signing right let alone on time.
if we replace riza we will be relegated before they appoint a new manager in.
pointless as we are in the dog fight until the end of this season.
that decision will be made after the season and by then i dont think tan will get rid of him.
I think he will walk away if we were relegated.

Sam i am on about next season not now i don' t want riza purse next season