Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:19 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:22 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:23 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:26 am
vince.alm wrote:
I’m backing Peter Ridsdale and Implore you for the sake of the club to do the same and for the time being I ask you to bury any grievances or grudges you may hold and put them to one side as I have done.
Thanks for your anticipated support in this
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:29 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:29 am
vince.alm wrote:We need to rally around the chairman and support Peter whether you like him or not because if he goes, (he is on the verge of quitting) the investors go, the board goes and the club will go pop. Nobody wants to be chairman here for the foreseeable future anyway it’s a thankless task at Cardiff City not helped by the microscope media attention the role receives unfortunately.
I’m backing Peter Ridsdale and Implore you for the sake of the club to do the same and for the time being I ask you to bury any grievances or grudges you may hold and put them to one side as I have done.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:30 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:30 am
vince.alm wrote:At the end of the day these latest revelations were hacked illegally from a personal account, most people personal inbox contains items that could damage them especially businessman, those of us who work in the business world will understand the sort of emails that fly around on day to day covering various topics, if they were shown to our clients, colleagues, friends or outside bodies, it would be very embarrassing at the least and you could never work again at it’s worst. This is somebody's own personal email account FFS where is the integrity and moral standing in exposing that? To break the law to discredit a person is morally wrong.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:32 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:37 am
vince.alm wrote:I know a lot of you will disagree with this, and say Peter only has himself to blame, and to a degree you are right. I'm as frustrated as any of you over the way the club has been mismanaged at times, but we have also had good times let’s not forget that.
We need to rally around the chairman and support Peter whether you like him or not because if he goes, (he is on the verge of quitting) the investors go, the board goes and the club will go pop. Nobody wants to be chairman here for the foreseeable future anyway it’s a thankless task at Cardiff City not helped by the microscope media attention the role receives unfortunately.
At the end of the day these latest revelations were hacked illegally from a personal account, most people personal inbox contains items that could damage them especially businessman, those of us who work in the business world will understand the sort of emails that fly around on day to day covering various topics, if they were shown to our clients, colleagues, friends or outside bodies, it would be very embarrassing at the least and you could never work again at it’s worst. This is somebody's own personal email account FFS where is the integrity and moral standing in exposing that? To break the law to discredit a person is morally wrong.
I’m backing Peter Ridsdale and Implore you for the sake of the club to do the same and for the time being I ask you to bury any grievances or grudges you may hold and put them to one side as I have done.
Thanks for your anticipated support in this
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:43 am
vince.alm wrote:I know a lot of you will disagree with this, and say Peter only has himself to blame, and to a degree you are right. I'm as frustrated as any of you over the way the club has been mismanaged at times, but we have also had good times let’s not forget that.
We need to rally around the chairman and support Peter whether you like him or not because if he goes, (he is on the verge of quitting) the investors go, the board goes and the club will go pop. Nobody wants to be chairman here for the foreseeable future anyway it’s a thankless task at Cardiff City not helped by the microscope media attention the role receives unfortunately.
At the end of the day these latest revelations were hacked illegally from a personal account, most people personal inbox contains items that could damage them especially businessman, those of us who work in the business world will understand the sort of emails that fly around on day to day covering various topics, if they were shown to our clients, colleagues, friends or outside bodies, it would be very embarrassing at the least and you could never work again at it’s worst. This is somebody's own personal email account FFS where is the integrity and moral standing in exposing that? To break the law to discredit a person is morally wrong.
I’m backing Peter Ridsdale and Implore you for the sake of the club to do the same and for the time being I ask you to bury any grievances or grudges you may hold and put them to one side as I have done.
Thanks for your anticipated support in this
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:43 am
TNT wrote:vince.alm wrote:I know a lot of you will disagree with this, and say Peter only has himself to blame, and to a degree you are right. I'm as frustrated as any of you over the way the club has been mismanaged at times, but we have also had good times let’s not forget that.
We need to rally around the chairman and support Peter whether you like him or not because if he goes, (he is on the verge of quitting) the investors go, the board goes and the club will go pop. Nobody wants to be chairman here for the foreseeable future anyway it’s a thankless task at Cardiff City not helped by the microscope media attention the role receives unfortunately.
At the end of the day these latest revelations were hacked illegally from a personal account, most people personal inbox contains items that could damage them especially businessman, those of us who work in the business world will understand the sort of emails that fly around on day to day covering various topics, if they were shown to our clients, colleagues, friends or outside bodies, it would be very embarrassing at the least and you could never work again at it’s worst. This is somebody's own personal email account FFS where is the integrity and moral standing in exposing that? To break the law to discredit a person is morally wrong.
I’m backing Peter Ridsdale and Implore you for the sake of the club to do the same and for the time being I ask you to bury any grievances or grudges you may hold and put them to one side as I have done.
Thanks for your anticipated support in this
Oh dear.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:52 am
city_85 wrote:vince.alm wrote: I beg to differ, I believe a certain Mr H would take the reins if he was allowed back on the board.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:53 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:59 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:00 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:03 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:07 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:08 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:10 am
BigGwynram wrote:Zabier, you still can't accept what the NOTW printed was the truth, It is the truth, whether they should have been sent it is another argument, but it is the truth. If the truth shouldn't get to us then so be it, some people believe that a bit more honesty wouldn't go amiss, obviously we need to trust that our CEO is doing his best for the club and not for his or other share holders personal gain in front of the clubs benefit.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:11 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:BigGwynram wrote:Zabier, you still can't accept what the NOTW printed was the truth, It is the truth, whether they should have been sent it is another argument, but it is the truth. If the truth shouldn't get to us then so be it, some people believe that a bit more honesty wouldn't go amiss, obviously we need to trust that our CEO is doing his best for the club and not for his or other share holders personal gain in front of the clubs benefit.
Wasn't part of that 'truth' the fact the tax bill will be paid this week?
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:19 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:19 am
nerd wrote:Tony, you're right in that Ridsdale has pulled rabbits out of the hat at times. However, I'd venture to say that's not an effective strategy for running a business with income in the millions and massive debts. Weve clearly got all our eggs in potential Malaysian investment with no plan B, seemingly.
Using a hotmail address rather than say a cardiffcityfc.co.uk address is incredibly unprofessional thing to do, yells out "amateur". Where are all these business related emails stored? Centrally on a hotmail server? Do CCFC have the copies of those business emails stored, archived?
What I find incredulous is the assertion that if Ridsdale goes, so too do the Malaysians. The due diligence is with regard to investing in Cardiff City. Not Peter Ridsdale. If Ridsdale were to stand down and the Malaysians pull out, I'd then ventrue the Malaysian interest may not have been particularly strong in the first instance.
At face value, this smacks of damage limitation to appease fans. Not saying that's necessarily a bad approach by Ridsdale, just that it's not exactly convincing to the majority for good reason.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:19 am
nerd wrote:Tony, you're right in that Ridsdale has pulled rabbits out of the hat at times. However, I'd venture to say that's not an effective strategy for running a business with income in the millions and massive debts. Weve clearly got all our eggs in potential Malaysian investment with no plan B, seemingly.
Using a hotmail address rather than say a cardiffcityfc.co.uk address is incredibly unprofessional thing to do, yells out "amateur". Where are all these business related emails stored? Centrally on a hotmail server? Do CCFC have the copies of those business emails stored, archived?
What I find incredulous is the assertion that if Ridsdale goes, so too do the Malaysians. The due diligence is with regard to investing in Cardiff City. Not Peter Ridsdale. If Ridsdale were to stand down and the Malaysians pull out, I'd then ventrue the Malaysian interest may not have been particularly strong in the first instance.
At face value, this smacks of damage limitation to appease fans. Not saying that's necessarily a bad approach by Ridsdale, just that it's not exactly convincing to the majority for good reason.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:20 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:24 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:26 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:nerd wrote:Tony, you're right in that Ridsdale has pulled rabbits out of the hat at times. However, I'd venture to say that's not an effective strategy for running a business with income in the millions and massive debts. Weve clearly got all our eggs in potential Malaysian investment with no plan B, seemingly.
Using a hotmail address rather than say a cardiffcityfc.co.uk address is incredibly unprofessional thing to do, yells out "amateur". Where are all these business related emails stored? Centrally on a hotmail server? Do CCFC have the copies of those business emails stored, archived?
What I find incredulous is the assertion that if Ridsdale goes, so too do the Malaysians. The due diligence is with regard to investing in Cardiff City. Not Peter Ridsdale. If Ridsdale were to stand down and the Malaysians pull out, I'd then ventrue the Malaysian interest may not have been particularly strong in the first instance.
At face value, this smacks of damage limitation to appease fans. Not saying that's necessarily a bad approach by Ridsdale, just that it's not exactly convincing to the majority for good reason.
TBH with you Nerd I would say that 90% of Championship clubs are in some kind of financial dire straights, so we are by far not the only ones so Ridsdales strategy is not that unquie.
We also don't know if there is no Plan B should the Malaysians back away, unfortunatley we would only know that if they did.
You probabley have a good point about what would happen if Ridsdale resigned, but is it worth the gamble?
Was it the hotmail account which was hacked? I'm not sure it has been confirmed it was although on the assumption it was then that would seem to have been a lapse of judgement on Ridsdale's part.
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:30 am
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:31 am
Dange wrote:Yaayy, Goooooooooo Peter (insert some sort of moon walking cheel leader dance), will that suffice?
Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:31 am
Blazing Saddles wrote:All knowledgeable forward thinking positive supporters are 100% behind Peter Ridsdale!!