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We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:19 am

If we can't get a point at home against the likes of Shitsea and forest then I can see the warning signs already.

We've been very lucky in many games, cov away, leeds away,(fumble and offside got us 2-0 up) norwich,(dodgy penalty straight after they scored) doncaster, (ran rings around us first half) millwall(battered us) and bristol city at home(2-0 after 10 mins shows dodgy defence), scunthorpe(deflected winner) away etc.

You can't be lucky all season and it shows in the "big" games.

I don't think we have what it takes to "cross the line"

So, heres one fan wo wont be totally shocked come May

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:37 am

I can see what you mean but look at Man Utd this year played shit all year and scraped though games and they are top of the league. Newcastle did this last year and they even lost to scu*thorpe lol and went on to win the league so no need to worry we could play like that all year and still get promoted i dont care if we did play shit aslong come may we are in the promised land :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:21 am

Thanks for the inspirational team talk - we are SECOND - everyone playing with lucky goals etc , qpr lucky not to get concede penalty , keep the faith and support the team :ayatollah:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:12 am

we are 2nd ffs

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:49 am

johnny what the f**k are you smoking you can be lucky in the odd game leeds away we played them off the park I DON'T THINK YOU ARE A CITY FAN we have had 11 wins were we lucky in all of them games.you depressing f**ker go support some other lucky team :evil: :evil: :evil:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:57 pm

I DISAGREE.

From a fan who will be celebrating in May :ayatollah:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:23 pm

Guys
Obviously "Care in the Community" has gone to rat shit!!!! Wake up son were still 2nd in the league having picked up a few points. We'll kick on from here and come January when we get a few defenders in we'll piss this devision no problem lets try and be positive

Onward and Upward

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:42 am

Our "Leader" (pfffft) hasn't got what it takes that is blatantly obvious.

What big games have we won?

Preston? lost 6-0
FA Cup Final? ..... Portsmouth were there for the taking!
Leicester beat us down here in the play off semi......
Play Off Final....noooooo!
He's never beaten Roy Keane
Swansea, Forest and QP fuckin R

DJ bottles it on the black ball ......... we wont get promoted with him



It's time for change

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:17 am

FA Cup Final? ..... Portsmouth were there for the taking!


Really??? look at the teams again and look at the wage they were being paid and the transfer fees they went for after that final?

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:19 am

2blue2handle wrote:
FA Cup Final? ..... Portsmouth were there for the taking!


Really??? look at the teams again and look at the wage they were being paid and the transfer fees they went for after that final?



Leicester beat us down here in the play off semi......


Yeah I was gutted that night, I remember the sad faces as we left the CCS :lol: :lol:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:21 am

Preston? lost 6-0


Do you honestly believe DJ set his team out to play like that? :?

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:31 am

2blue2handle wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
FA Cup Final? ..... Portsmouth were there for the taking!


Really??? look at the teams again and look at the wage they were being paid and the transfer fees they went for after that final?



Leicester beat us down here in the play off semi......


Yeah I was gutted that night, I remember the sad faces as we left the CCS :lol: :lol:



point im making is we lost the game because the second leg is a bigger match had and they scored more away goals...then we went to the final and spunked it.....manager's fault......he's nob mate and he will not get us promoted....even if he had man utds squad he couldnt get us out of this league

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:35 am

I think we were beaten by a better performance in the final....when Jay went off.

My honest opinion is he will take us up and it saddens me you wont see it :(

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:38 am

2blue2handle wrote:I think we were beaten by a better performance in the final....when Jay went off.

My honest opinion is he will take us up and it saddens me you wont see it :(


no way.... something will go wrong

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:14 am

Potentially, I think if Jay gets injured we have a problem especially if we dont back him up in Jan.
I think if Bellany and Jay stay fit we are looking strong :ayatollah:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:27 am

i totally agree with mr rhythem , they wil bottle it like they always do , who wants the premiership anyway ? sat 12 clock sat 3 o clock sat 5 clock sunday wat ever time they fooking choose even a sodding monday night , stuff that football is 3pm sat afternoon !!
no one tell me i dont support the city please? 30 years now an still travel to every away match unlike most ?
seen to many f**k ups, going back to name one ..... northampton away play off what a joke but a great tear up before an after :lol:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:56 am

Johnny Rythmn wrote:If we can't get a point at home against the likes of Shitsea and forest then I can see the warning signs already.

We've been very lucky in many games, cov away, leeds away,(fumble and offside got us 2-0 up) norwich,(dodgy penalty straight after they scored) doncaster, (ran rings around us first half) millwall(battered us) and bristol city at home(2-0 after 10 mins shows dodgy defence), scunthorpe(deflected winner) away etc.

You can't be lucky all season and it shows in the "big" games.

I don't think we have what it takes to "cross the line"

So, heres one fan wo wont be totally shocked come May



Your pints half empty isn't it, you could say we had bad luck in the games we lost !!!!

We will go up, you haven't even thought about the players we will bring in this January, it will make a massive difference :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:40 am

Sad to say Mr Rhythm has a point.

Our defence should have been the main priority for Jones this season.
So he ships out probably our most talented, gutsy defender and keeps
Mark Hudson. Milk turns quicker than Hudson. Then gets Chris Riggott
instead? Sorry, but Riggott has been here five months now and has only
kicked a ball in a friendly. Jones' ploy is now obvious. Riggott was class
once, get him here, get him fit in time for the January window and we'll
have one of the best defenders in the division ready for the big run-in....
What a f*cking gamble!!!

Would it have been more of a gamble to heal the rift with Anthony Gerrard,
get him on the treadmill and start from scratch?

See Jones has this total belief in "its my way or the Highway"... commendable
if 'his way' is working. It evidently isnt. We have a group of brilliant players,
and apart from flashes in a handful of games... who have we dominated???
We put Donny to the sword with a Bellamy inspired performance, but that was
by accident. 4-4-2 was NOT working, Donny were all over us. Leeds away??
great win, but we could well have been losing that one by half-time, and we
all know our record for coming from behind and winning.

We should be THRASHING teams. But no matter who we play, their manager
will send them out with the same game plan

"keep it tight at the back, and go hell for leather up front cos they WILL give
you plenty of chances"... and we do.

Jones has nobody but himself to blame for our defence, he got them all in.

The players now can all see that Jones team selection and tactics are falling
short, and we have got problems. I dont see them going away.

What if Jay goes off after 5 minutes tomorrow and is out for weeks???

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:18 am

Yep and we can't win the BIG games because of that

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:22 am

Shit fans.

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:30 am

Wow, supporters like you is definitely what our club could be without.

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:41 am

At the end of the day we are 2nd. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:51 am

MalagaCF wrote:At the end of the day we are 2nd. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



It's the end of the season that counts

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:42 am

Johnny Rythmn wrote:If we can't get a point at home against the likes of Shitsea and forest then I can see the warning signs already.

We've been very lucky in many games, cov away, leeds away,(fumble and offside got us 2-0 up) norwich,(dodgy penalty straight after they scored) doncaster, (ran rings around us first half) millwall(battered us) and bristol city at home(2-0 after 10 mins shows dodgy defence), scunthorpe(deflected winner) away etc.

You can't be lucky all season and it shows in the "big" games.

I don't think we have what it takes to "cross the line"

So, heres one fan wo wont be totally shocked come May




Would you like to sell your season ticket, mate???? (Please!!!!) :x

Not interested myself as I'll be there EVERY game supporting MY team to the Premiership anyway!!!! :ayatollah:

IF they miss out, I'll STILL be there NEXT year cheering them on!!

You'll be sorely missed with an attitude like THAT!!!! :(

FFS!!!!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:55 am

Johnny Rythmn wrote:If we can't get a point at home against the likes of Shitsea and forest then I can see the warning signs already.

We've been very lucky in many games, cov away, leeds away,(fumble and offside got us 2-0 up) norwich,(dodgy penalty straight after they scored) doncaster, (ran rings around us first half) millwall(battered us) and bristol city at home(2-0 after 10 mins shows dodgy defence), scunthorpe(deflected winner) away etc.

You can't be lucky all season and it shows in the "big" games.

I don't think we have what it takes to "cross the line"

So, heres one fan wo wont be totally shocked come May


Dear oh dear...

So sometimes we got lucky and sometimes we didnt - QPR blatent pen, Jacks missed a host of chances and blatent pen, forest, defelcted goal, load of easy chances missed...

I think a few of our fans need to realise that opposing teams will make us fight for everything and that it isnt going to come easy..

As for big games, Boro away FA Quarters, Barnsley FA Cup semi, Jacks home last year, Leicester play-off semi, ....

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:04 pm

taffyapple wrote:Sad to say Mr Rhythm has a point.

Our defence should have been the main priority for Jones this season.
So he ships out probably our most talented, gutsy defender and keeps
Mark Hudson. Milk turns quicker than Hudson. Then gets Chris Riggott
instead? Sorry, but Riggott has been here five months now and has only
kicked a ball in a friendly. Jones' ploy is now obvious. Riggott was class
once, get him here, get him fit in time for the January window and we'll
have one of the best defenders in the division ready for the big run-in....
What a f*cking gamble!!!

Would it have been more of a gamble to heal the rift with Anthony Gerrard,
get him on the treadmill and start from scratch?

See Jones has this total belief in "its my way or the Highway"... commendable
if 'his way' is working. It evidently isnt. We have a group of brilliant players,
and apart from flashes in a handful of games... who have we dominated???
We put Donny to the sword with a Bellamy inspired performance, but that was
by accident. 4-4-2 was NOT working, Donny were all over us. Leeds away??
great win, but we could well have been losing that one by half-time, and we
all know our record for coming from behind and winning.

We should be THRASHING teams. But no matter who we play, their manager
will send them out with the same game plan

"keep it tight at the back, and go hell for leather up front cos they WILL give
you plenty of chances"... and we do.

Jones has nobody but himself to blame for our defence, he got them all in.

The players now can all see that Jones team selection and tactics are falling
short, and we have got problems. I dont see them going away.

What if Jay goes off after 5 minutes tomorrow and is out for weeks???



Yeah Gerrard is 'gutsy' alright. :lol: The reason he's not here is that at the start of the season he wasnt as good as Hudson, Gyepes and probably Blake -and that was his own fault. in the friendlies and against Burton he looked awful. Given his comments in the paper after the play-offs I'm not sure the rest of the players would have wanted him around either.

I also thnk its rubbish that we should be thrashing teams, - looking at the likes of QPR, Leicester, Forest, Pompey, Burnley etc.. and some of the players and the squads they have we are doing well to be 2nd. maybe this arrogant attitude is why so few seem to get behind the team, instead sitting back and waiting to be entertained. We will have to fight for everything today. Even Preston, bottom of the league have some very good players -Lonergan, Davidson, St leger and Billy Jones would all get in our side, Chaplow, Tonge Parkin and Hume are also good players who I wouldnt mind having in our squad.

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:23 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
taffyapple wrote:Sad to say Mr Rhythm has a point.

Our defence should have been the main priority for Jones this season.
So he ships out probably our most talented, gutsy defender and keeps
Mark Hudson. Milk turns quicker than Hudson. Then gets Chris Riggott
instead? Sorry, but Riggott has been here five months now and has only
kicked a ball in a friendly. Jones' ploy is now obvious. Riggott was class
once, get him here, get him fit in time for the January window and we'll
have one of the best defenders in the division ready for the big run-in....
What a f*cking gamble!!!

Would it have been more of a gamble to heal the rift with Anthony Gerrard,
get him on the treadmill and start from scratch?

See Jones has this total belief in "its my way or the Highway"... commendable
if 'his way' is working. It evidently isnt. We have a group of brilliant players,
and apart from flashes in a handful of games... who have we dominated???
We put Donny to the sword with a Bellamy inspired performance, but that was
by accident. 4-4-2 was NOT working, Donny were all over us. Leeds away??
great win, but we could well have been losing that one by half-time, and we
all know our record for coming from behind and winning.

We should be THRASHING teams. But no matter who we play, their manager
will send them out with the same game plan

"keep it tight at the back, and go hell for leather up front cos they WILL give
you plenty of chances"... and we do.

Jones has nobody but himself to blame for our defence, he got them all in.

The players now can all see that Jones team selection and tactics are falling
short, and we have got problems. I dont see them going away.

What if Jay goes off after 5 minutes tomorrow and is out for weeks???



Yeah Gerrard is 'gutsy' alright. :lol: The reason he's not here is that at the start of the season he wasnt as good as Hudson, Gyepes and probably Blake -and that was his own fault. in the friendlies and against Burton he looked awful. Given his comments in the paper after the play-offs I'm not sure the rest of the players would have wanted him around either.

I also thnk its rubbish that we should be thrashing teams, - looking at the likes of QPR, Leicester, Forest, Pompey, Burnley etc.. and some of the players and the squads they have we are doing well to be 2nd. maybe this arrogant attitude is why so few seem to get behind the team, instead sitting back and waiting to be entertained. We will have to fight for everything today. Even Preston, bottom of the league have some very good players -Lonergan, Davidson, St leger and Billy Jones would all get in our side, Chaplow, Tonge Parkin and Hume are also good players who I wouldnt mind having in our squad.


Jones attitude towards Gerrard caused the rift. I agree that Gerrard should have fought
harder to get fit again and prove himself. BUT... had he not done just that at the back
end of last season. Unbelievable to even contemplate now but we went NINE (i think)
games without conceding a goal when he and Darcy were together. He was unceremoniously
dumped by Jones for Hudson and never given a look in again. Imagine if he was thinking
"no matter what i do ill be second choice behind a pretty poor player"... no wonder he lacked
motivation!! He is now rated as one of Hulls best players this season. Yet another example
of David Jones binning young players even when they are playing well.

I do not have an arrogant attitude towards our players. They have to earn the right to play,
they have to win all the battles all over the pitch before imposing their style and flair.
Gerrard was one who was turning into a passionate, battling, determined defender. Who
knows if he'll ever make the top grade? I do know he's better than what we have got!!!

The problem at Cardiff City, I believe, is that Dave Jones has an arrogant attitude towards
the players, the fans and even the club. He thinks we're lucky to have him. He played in
the Merseyside derby you know, much bigger and more important than a Mickey Mouse game
between 'whatchamacallem' and 'thingummyjig'

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:41 pm

taffyapple wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
taffyapple wrote:Sad to say Mr Rhythm has a point.

Our defence should have been the main priority for Jones this season.
So he ships out probably our most talented, gutsy defender and keeps
Mark Hudson. Milk turns quicker than Hudson. Then gets Chris Riggott
instead? Sorry, but Riggott has been here five months now and has only
kicked a ball in a friendly. Jones' ploy is now obvious. Riggott was class
once, get him here, get him fit in time for the January window and we'll
have one of the best defenders in the division ready for the big run-in....
What a f*cking gamble!!!

Would it have been more of a gamble to heal the rift with Anthony Gerrard,
get him on the treadmill and start from scratch?

See Jones has this total belief in "its my way or the Highway"... commendable
if 'his way' is working. It evidently isnt. We have a group of brilliant players,
and apart from flashes in a handful of games... who have we dominated???
We put Donny to the sword with a Bellamy inspired performance, but that was
by accident. 4-4-2 was NOT working, Donny were all over us. Leeds away??
great win, but we could well have been losing that one by half-time, and we
all know our record for coming from behind and winning.

We should be THRASHING teams. But no matter who we play, their manager
will send them out with the same game plan

"keep it tight at the back, and go hell for leather up front cos they WILL give
you plenty of chances"... and we do.

Jones has nobody but himself to blame for our defence, he got them all in.

The players now can all see that Jones team selection and tactics are falling
short, and we have got problems. I dont see them going away.

What if Jay goes off after 5 minutes tomorrow and is out for weeks???



Yeah Gerrard is 'gutsy' alright. :lol: The reason he's not here is that at the start of the season he wasnt as good as Hudson, Gyepes and probably Blake -and that was his own fault. in the friendlies and against Burton he looked awful. Given his comments in the paper after the play-offs I'm not sure the rest of the players would have wanted him around either.

I also thnk its rubbish that we should be thrashing teams, - looking at the likes of QPR, Leicester, Forest, Pompey, Burnley etc.. and some of the players and the squads they have we are doing well to be 2nd. maybe this arrogant attitude is why so few seem to get behind the team, instead sitting back and waiting to be entertained. We will have to fight for everything today. Even Preston, bottom of the league have some very good players -Lonergan, Davidson, St leger and Billy Jones would all get in our side, Chaplow, Tonge Parkin and Hume are also good players who I wouldnt mind having in our squad.


Jones attitude towards Gerrard caused the rift. I agree that Gerrard should have fought
harder to get fit again and prove himself. BUT... had he not done just that at the back
end of last season. Unbelievable to even contemplate now but we went NINE (i think)
games without conceding a goal when he and Darcy were together. He was unceremoniously
dumped by Jones for Hudson and never given a look in again. Imagine if he was thinking
"no matter what i do ill be second choice behind a pretty poor player"... no wonder he lacked
motivation!! He is now rated as one of Hulls best players this season. Yet another example
of David Jones binning young players even when they are playing well.

I do not have an arrogant attitude towards our players. They have to earn the right to play,
they have to win all the battles all over the pitch before imposing their style and flair.
Gerrard was one who was turning into a passionate, battling, determined defender. Who
knows if he'll ever make the top grade? I do know he's better than what we have got!!!

The problem at Cardiff City, I believe, is that Dave Jones has an arrogant attitude towards
the players, the fans and even the club. He thinks we're lucky to have him. He played in
the Merseyside derby you know, much bigger and more important than a Mickey Mouse game
between 'whatchamacallem' and 'thingummyjig'



You've got your facts badly wrong.
9 games with no goals - nowhere near it. Hardly supsrising you were so upset if thats what you think the case was, along with the rest of your reading of what happened (Gerrard was INJURED, not 'dumped'). Check it up.

As for Gerrard, if thats his excuse then he needs to grow up. Jones had good reason to leave him out- dont forget he was injured at the end of the season and Blake and Hudson did well enough at Leicester to keep ther places for the 2nd leg. It would have been his first game back for the final. In hindsight McNaughton struggled that day, and when I asked him (and he was taken by suprise) he admitted he was carrying a knock that day, we looked better ater Gerrard came on and Blake went into kev's spot, so if anything thats what Jones should have done, not drop our best and most experienced defender (Hudson). Gerrard isnt better than what we've got and never was, half of the mistakes he made early on were blamed on Hudson as some couldnt tell between no. 5 and no. 15. Watch his position and movement, he dives in and gets caught out too often. Hopefully he'll learn this at Hull. And as for pace there wasnt much between him and Hudson, in fact with his spare tyre he;d prob come 2nd even against Hudson for pace.

He HAS got potential and might well do it. He doesnt 'battle' harder than any of the other centre halfs though- dont be fooled by the badge kissing and diving in.

As for arrogant attitude, well what else is suggesting we should be 'thrashing' sides ??

Personally I dont give a shit about whether Jones cosys up to the fans or not, all I care about is results and right now he's doing well and given what has gone on here in the last few years then, yes, we HAVE been lucky to have him, without the transfer fees from the palyers we've sold we'd be well and truly fucked, and despite selling all those players we have improved year on year. Not good enough for some, but then maybe realism isnt always a top trait in modern football fans.

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:57 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
Johnny Rythmn wrote:If we can't get a point at home against the likes of Shitsea and forest then I can see the warning signs already.

We've been very lucky in many games, cov away, leeds away,(fumble and offside got us 2-0 up) norwich,(dodgy penalty straight after they scored) doncaster, (ran rings around us first half) millwall(battered us) and bristol city at home(2-0 after 10 mins shows dodgy defence), scunthorpe(deflected winner) away etc.

You can't be lucky all season and it shows in the "big" games.

I don't think we have what it takes to "cross the line"

So, heres one fan wo wont be totally shocked come May


Dear oh dear...

So sometimes we got lucky and sometimes we didnt - QPR blatent pen, Jacks missed a host of chances and blatent pen, forest, defelcted goal, load of easy chances missed...

I think a few of our fans need to realise that opposing teams will make us fight for everything and that it isnt going to come easy..

As for big games, Boro away FA Quarters, Barnsley FA Cup semi, Jacks home last year, Leicester play-off semi, ....

none of those games won us anything did they?

that's the point i am trying to get you all to understand, leicester beat us at home remember????? 3-2 had that been the first leg what would have happened then?

Re: We Can Forget Promotion This Year...Again :(

Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:59 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Johnny Rythmn wrote:If we can't get a point at home against the likes of Shitsea and forest then I can see the warning signs already.

We've been very lucky in many games, cov away, leeds away,(fumble and offside got us 2-0 up) norwich,(dodgy penalty straight after they scored) doncaster, (ran rings around us first half) millwall(battered us) and bristol city at home(2-0 after 10 mins shows dodgy defence), scunthorpe(deflected winner) away etc.

You can't be lucky all season and it shows in the "big" games.

I don't think we have what it takes to "cross the line"

So, heres one fan wo wont be totally shocked come May




Would you like to sell your season ticket, mate???? (Please!!!!) :x

Not interested myself as I'll be there EVERY game supporting MY team to the Premiership anyway!!!! :ayatollah:

IF they miss out, I'll STILL be there NEXT year cheering them on!!

You'll be sorely missed with an attitude like THAT!!!! :(

FFS!!!!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:



you'll be in ya grave before we get promoted