Don't Do It Ricky Hatton!

The lads piled on the stones and his considering a comeback!

He wa a great fighter to watch but sadly one dimensional. He lost to the two best boxers in the world at the moment in Manny and Foyd so there's no shame in that really.

He says he doesn't want fans to remember him as a loser but if he does make a comeback it's gonna be embarressing.

Don't do it Ricky Boy

hes fatter than me lully lol the thing with boxers they never know when to quit

hes fatter than me lully lol the thing with boxers they never know when to quit

Awrite mate

The lads piled on the stones and his considering a comeback!

He wa a great fighter to watch but sadly one dimensional. He lost to the two best boxers in the world at the moment in Manny and Foyd so there's no shame in that really.

He says he doesn't want fans to remember him as a loser but if he does make a comeback it's gonna be embarressing.

Don't do it Ricky Boy

I agree he should retire now and not ruin his respected name,as he will start to look a fool.

last fight he made him self look stupid, he should try his hand at promoting with the friends hes made in america

last fight he made him self look stupid, he should try his hand at promoting with the friends hes made in america

I think Manny made him look stupid and he does that to his opponents quite often.

The lads piled on the stones and his considering a comeback!

He wa a great fighter to watch but sadly one dimensional. He lost to the two best boxers in the world at the moment in Manny and Foyd so there's no shame in that really.

He says he doesn't want fans to remember him as a loser but if he does make a comeback it's gonna be embarressing.

Don't do it Ricky Boy

I agree he should retire now and not ruin his respected name,as he will start to look a fool.

Yeah retire now and watch his beloved Citeh !

he better retire,i went to vegas to watch manny destroy him in just over a few mins,700dollars 4 my ticket off some tout,im still bitter....i wont be watching again mate thats for sure

The lads piled on the stones and his considering a comeback!

He wa a great fighter to watch but sadly one dimensional. He lost to the two best boxers in the world at the moment in Manny and Foyd so there's no shame in that really.

He says he doesn't want fans to remember him as a loser but if he does make a comeback it's gonna be embarressing.

Don't do it Ricky Boy

pilled on stones? if you a fan of boxing or his career, you'll know he's always done it, he think its better to put on weight between fights then loose the lot in the coming weeks on a diet of tuna and fish, 8 weeks and he's back to his normal self

More info here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7132292.stm

you can't put that much weight on and lose it that quick and be ok!!!!! He goes on drinking binges aswell!The last defeat shown everyone it can't be done! A good boxer will beat a good brawler in my eyes!!!!

he's a fool to make a comeback it's plain to see he's not the boxer he once was and he will get hurt next time out

you can't put that much weight on and lose it that quick and be ok!!!!!

well he's done it all his career, long term THEY SAY it can be bad for you, but at the time he was in his prime fighting years

The last defeat shown everyone it can't be done!

whast? he was beaten by a much better fighter lol

A good boxer will beat a good brawler in my eyes!!!!

Tyson, Rocky Marciano, Foreman, Liston

Foreman.Liston and Tyson were beaten by better boxers Ben!!!!!!! Marciano i will accept!!!!

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I think it'd be better to remember Ricky losing to Manny Pacquiao, one of the best fighters in the world at any weight, rather than remember hium struggling against a no-hoper like he probably will. I think it'd be stupid trying to put him in with the elite because he'll get hammered.

what

Im not saying thier best? i was pointing out that not all good boxers will beat a good brawler !!!!

In this day and age... are we still scared of the brawlers? You know... the one's that lack finesse in the ring... or the dancing ability of Ali... the speed of Ray Leonard and all of that... but they're so strong... so powerful... they just have to hit you a few times and BAM! You're out of there? Foreman would destroy much quicker, fitter and more skilled opponents because he would overpower them with his intensity... he hardly ever defended his own face or showed off anything special... brawlers... Foreman... Liston... and so on... had a basic style... DESTROY YOUR OPPONENT! Damn... The Brawlers really were something in professional boxing... not the most skilled or athletic or best looking or the quickest or the fittest... but... the most feared!

Years later... things have changed... we all know the best boxers are extremely skilled and they don't necessarily have to rely solely on strength to win... but is every still scared of "THE BRAWLERS" in spite of not being what boxers really should be?

you can watch the ROCKY FILMS (baised on a true story), that big russian guy who had all the skill, all the training etc yet rocky beat him on pure brawling, taking punch after punch, giving everything and slugging it out -Brawler

so not in every case but a good brawler is any match for a skilled boxer

Foreman and Tyson were beaten by better boxers Ben!!!!!!! Liston was'nt a brawler he was a boxer! Marciano i will accept!!!!

why you changing it

Famous brawlers include Arturo Gatti, Eric Esch, Sonny Liston,,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_sty ... _technique

My guess is he'll fight Marquez and then call it a day hopefully.No boxer wants to finish his career after a heavy defeat like Hatton did v Manny.

I like Hatton,always have but now you have to start fearing for his health,i seen him on SSN yesterday announcing his comeback and was shocked at what i saw.And to make it worse he wants to come back at Light Welter.

My advice is fight Marquez,scrape a unanimous or a split decision and get the hell out of there,whilst he's still got his marbles and liver somewhat intact.

Be interesting to see if he ditches Mayweather Snr now and goes back to Billy Graham,i would.

i was doing the reply on my phone ben. Messed up on Liston was rushing. I do oppoligize!

My guess is he'll fight Marquez and then call it a day hopefully.No boxer wants to finish his career after a heavy defeat like Hatton did v Manny.

I like Hatton,always have but now you have to start fearing for his health,i seen him on SSN yesterday announcing his comeback and was shocked at what i saw.And to make it worse he wants to come back at Light Welter.

My advice is fight Marquez,scrape a unanimous or a split decision and get the hell out of there,whilst he's still got his marbles and liver somewhat intact.

Be interesting to see if he ditches Mayweather Snr now and goes back to Billy Graham,i would.

totally agree matey, Money talks in hattons case.... come on hatton, call it a day son ££££ lol

i was doing the reply on my phone ben. Messed up on Liston was rushing. I do oppoligize!

you must have meant one i named as "not being a brawler" for you to right that, but yet all i named were right, stick to football

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you can watch the ROCKY FILMS (baised on a true story), that big russian guy who had all the skill, all the training etc yet rocky beat him on pure brawling, taking punch after punch, giving everything and slugging it out -Brawler

The only thing Rocky is based on is the fight between Ali and Chuck Wepner where Wepner got KO'd in the 15th, when everybody expected him to get beat way before.

you can watch the ROCKY FILMS (baised on a true story), that big russian guy who had all the skill, all the training etc yet rocky beat him on pure brawling, taking punch after punch, giving everything and slugging it out -Brawler

The only thing Rocky is based on is the fight between Ali and Chuck Wepner where Wepner got KO'd in the 15th, when everybody expected him to get beat way before.

very true, , but im talking about the whole story, feel about it all, the local brawler who uses his scabby gym compared to somone who had all the equpment, skill, etc , and its like that in real life today

you know what im trying to say ? lol think im lost now

Didn't google that. I've got a limited edition Rocky DVD and it's on there.

When Rocky came out, thats when you could actually be a top sportsman without being in prime condition, without possessing the finesse. These days, you'll probably get murdered. I love the UFC more so than boxing and the days of the brawler are well and truly over. Thats why you don't see guys like Tank Abbott or Wesley 'Cabbage' Correira dominating, thats why you see guys like Kimbo being submitted by Roy Nelson.

MMA/UFC *spit*

no history ,no tradition and the good Marquis of Queensbury will be turning in his grave

what i mean't to say Ben was good thinking skillfull boxers have beaten big powerfull brawlers! I do like brawls but i also like the finesse of a skillfull boxing match! I said in MY eyes a good boxer will beat a good brawler and it has been proven over the years! Everyone has an oppion and i respect yours!!!!!!!!!!!!

what i mean't to say Ben was good thinking skillfull boxers have beaten big powerfull brawlers! I do like brawls but i also like the finesse of a skillfull boxing match! I said in MY eyes a good boxer will beat a good brawler and it has been proven over the years! Everyone has an oppion and i respect yours!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe Calzaghe v Jeff Lacy?

MMA/UFC *spit*

no history ,no tradition and the good Marquis of Queensbury will be turning in his grave

There is plenty of tradition and history in MMA, ranging way back from ancient Greece and 'Pankration' fto the 1900's with 'Merikan' to 'Vale Tudo' in Brazil and the Gracies, and in Japan with people like Masahiko Kimura. Even Dana White, President of the UFC has named Bruce Lee as the "father of mixed martial arts" due to his Jeet Kune Do fighting concept.

And the reason the Marquis of Queensbury is turning in his grave is because Helio Gracie has him in an armbar!!

MMA is more exciting than boxing, and it's a sport where the top fighters fight the top fighters. There's no 'Mayweather - Pacquiao' drama, when you get to the elite level, you fight the elite fighters. When Chuck Liddel was number one and Randy Couture was number 2, they fought. When GSP was number one and BJ Penn was number 2, they fought. There's no ducking and diving in MMA, to be at the top you can't pick and choose fights because you need to be at the top to earn the money.

MMA/UFC *spit*

no history ,no tradition and the good Marquis of Queensbury will be turning in his grave

There is plenty of tradition and history in MMA, ranging way back from ancient Greece and 'Pankration' fto the 1900's with 'Merikan' to 'Vale Tudo' in Brazil and the Gracies, and in Japan with people like Masahiko Kimura. Even Dana White, President of the UFC has named Bruce Lee as the "father of mixed martial arts" due to his Jeet Kune Do fighting concept.

And the reason the Marquis of Queensbury is turning in his grave is because Helio Gracie has him in an armbar!!

MMA is more exciting than boxing, and it's a sport where the top fighters fight the top fighters. There's no 'Mayweather - Pacquiao' drama, when you get to the elite level, you fight the elite fighters. When Chuck Liddel was number one and Randy Couture was number 2, they fought. When GSP was number one and BJ Penn was number 2, they fought. There's no ducking and diving in MMA, to be at the top you can't pick and choose fights because you need to be at the top to earn the money.

Good reply!!!!!

MMA/UFC *spit*

no history ,no tradition and the good Marquis of Queensbury will be turning in his grave

There is plenty of tradition and history in MMA, ranging way back from ancient Greece and 'Pankration' fto the 1900's with 'Merikan' to 'Vale Tudo' in Brazil and the Gracies, and in Japan with people like Masahiko Kimura. Even Dana White, President of the UFC has named Bruce Lee as the "father of mixed martial arts" due to his Jeet Kune Do fighting concept.

And the reason the Marquis of Queensbury is turning in his grave is because Helio Gracie has him in an armbar!!

MMA is more exciting than boxing, and it's a sport where the top fighters fight the top fighters. There's no 'Mayweather - Pacquiao' drama, when you get to the elite level, you fight the elite fighters. When Chuck Liddel was number one and Randy Couture was number 2, they fought. When GSP was number one and BJ Penn was number 2, they fought. There's no ducking and diving in MMA, to be at the top you can't pick and choose fights because you need to be at the top to earn the money.

I respect your views but will never adhere to your point that MMA is more exciting than boxing.MMA is outright undisciplined barbarianism with a jack of all trades,master of none ethos,whereas boxing is a controlled undiluted art.

Every MMA fight i've ever seen and its not many,granted,they square up to eachother at the start of each round and then for the next 4 and a half minutes roll about on the floor trying to strangle eachother.Not my idea of good viewing but each to their own i guess.

MMA/UFC *spit*

no history ,no tradition and the good Marquis of Queensbury will be turning in his grave

There is plenty of tradition and history in MMA, ranging way back from ancient Greece and 'Pankration' fto the 1900's with 'Merikan' to 'Vale Tudo' in Brazil and the Gracies, and in Japan with people like Masahiko Kimura. Even Dana White, President of the UFC has named Bruce Lee as the "father of mixed martial arts" due to his Jeet Kune Do fighting concept.

And the reason the Marquis of Queensbury is turning in his grave is because Helio Gracie has him in an armbar!!

MMA is more exciting than boxing, and it's a sport where the top fighters fight the top fighters. There's no 'Mayweather - Pacquiao' drama, when you get to the elite level, you fight the elite fighters. When Chuck Liddel was number one and Randy Couture was number 2, they fought. When GSP was number one and BJ Penn was number 2, they fought. There's no ducking and diving in MMA, to be at the top you can't pick and choose fights because you need to be at the top to earn the money.

I respect your views but will never adhere to your point that MMA is more exciting than boxing.MMA is outright undisciplined barbarianism with a jack of all trades,master of none ethos,whereas boxing is a controlled undiluted art.

Every MMA fight i've ever seen and its not many,granted,they square up to eachother at the start of each round and then for the next 4 and a half minutes roll about on the floor trying to strangle eachother.Not my idea of good viewing but each to their own i guess.

Undisciplined barbarianism?? That's the typical attitude towards MMA by people who don't understand it and/or haven't taken the time to, the same people who call it 'blood-letting' and such. MMA has come a long way to shed it's early image, introducing rules and safety systems that vastly differ from the minimalist rules in, say, the UFC's early days. Rules that have been set by many governing US State Athletic Commisions, such as outlawing knees and vertical elbows to downed opponents. Further more, there have only ever been three deaths linked to MMA, two in unsanctioned bouts and one in 2007 in Houston. Compare that to boxing.

As for 'jack of all trades, master of none', take Georges St Pierre for instance. Black belt in Kyokoshin Karate, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, he's a masterful kickboxer and is so good as wrestling he trains with the Canadian Olympic Wrestling team (so much so, he was even considering an offer to quit MMA and try out for the 2012 Olympics in London). The evolution of the sport means that you have to be well versed in a number of styles. Anderson Silva, current Middleweight Champion and seen by many as 'Pound for Pound' best fighter in MMA, is a blackbelt in BJJ, Judo and Tae Kwon Do, as well as being second to none in Muay Thai and Boxing (where he's had a pro fight). Roy Jones Jr even wants to get it on with Silva.

Perhaps i am being ignorant and wont allow myself to enjoy MMA being a traditionalist boxing fan.But as i say i respect your views and its clearly a 'sport' thats on the up within the fighting fraternity so all power to you,its just not for me

One more point though regarding RJJ.Do you think he's interested in fighting De Silva as his sandtimer as a boxer has elapsed,much like Enzo Macarinelli wanted to fight Michael Bisping recently?

Basically could MMA become a haven for washed up,has been boxers no longer able to mix it at the highest level in boxing but fancying their chances at a less skilled sport?