Could Chopra play for Wales

Would chops be eligible to play for Wales on the residency rule as he has not had a senior cap for any country?

Do you think that he would be worth considering by Gary Speed?

You do understand none of the home nations use the residency rule, right?

You do understand none of the home nations use the residency rule, right?

Wasnt england gonna call up arteta though

You do understand none of the home nations use the residency rule, right?

What was the situation then when England were going to call up Almunia too, this was based on the residency rule.

You do understand none of the home nations use the residency rule, right?

Wasnt england gonna call up arteta though

No, that was media speculation.

None of the home nations use the residency rule for the simple reason that long term, England would get a massive player pool, everyone else cock all... Speed wouldn't be so dumb as to try for Chopra ( Indian till he didn't get the cash, remember ) because long term Wales would get fucked over...

Well if it is a rule , why cant Wales use it ? Im sure if it was the english that have the same kind of problem ,they would use it.

Well if it is a rule , why cant Wales use it ? Im sure if it was the english that have the same kind of problem ,they would use it.

Sigh...

Ok, you want to effectively restrict Wales' player pool to Cardiff, Swansea players, non-league Welsh club players; with those diehard Welshies at other clubs who would only want to play for their nation ( ie a minimal amount ) added.

Spot the obvious problem?

The rule exists and can be used; all home nations have agreed not to.

What about Matthew Le Tissier and Graeme Le Saux who were from the Channel Islands?

You do understand none of the home nations use the residency rule, right?

When was this agreement made?

What about Matthew Le Tissier and Graeme Le Saux who were from the Channel Islands?

Considered fair game.

You do understand none of the home nations use the residency rule, right?

When was this agreement made?

The agreement was made when the FIFA change re residency came in; been in place for quite a while.

Michael owen could of played for wales but chose england.

Ok well didnt know they had all said they wouldnt use it.
As for M O NO he couldnt have play for Wales, He has said that himself when they ask him about it.

Didnt england grab Zola Budd when she wanted to run for england , but she was south African ?
O wait ,I see that cos england is ok for loads of player, it would be great for them would it not ? if that rule stays as it is cos then they still have more choice than say Wales or scotland Ireland ? and then they will aways be number one ! O,Right I got it now.mmmmmmmm

Would chops be eligible to play for Wales on the residency rule as he has not had a senior cap for any country?

Do you think that he would be worth considering by Gary Speed?

No, he's injury prone enough now.

I looked at the rules once and I saw it as yes he could play on residency. However, I asked Jason Turner at the time and he said no he couldn't. That was a good enough answer for me, if Jason says he couldn't then trust me, he couldn't.

I did ask loads of players though over lunch if they would play for Wales, if they could, and Chopra said he would definitely.

I am not so sure about the pro's and con's of this rule. Sure England would have some advantage but at any time they can only have 11 players on the pitch. So, as a player, would you choose to play for maybe 2 or 3 games for England or would you prefer to have a long International career with one of the other Home Countries

Not using the residency rule only suits England.

Wales would not lose players on residency to England. Welsh internationals of that standard are few and far between and will often get caped at an early age for Wales in any case.

Wales are missing out on players like Chopra, Roger Johnson, Jerome, Whittingham, to name just a few. The Jacks could probably add a few too like Pratley. Players who may never get in the England side, but would fly in the Welsh squad.

Whether or not you want players playing for Wales under residency is a different matter.

Not using the residency rule only suits England.

Wales would not lose players on residency to England. Welsh internationals of that standard are few and far between and will often get caped at an early age for Wales in any case.

Wales are missing out on players like Chopra, Roger Johnson, Jerome, Whittingham, to name just a few. The Jacks could probably add a few too like Pratley. Players who may never get in the England side, but would fly in the Welsh squad.

Whether or not you want players playing for Wales under residency is a different matter.

Only missing out on those if they wanted to play for Wales.

On the flip side, Bellamy, Giggs, Bale and in 3 years time Ramsey would potentially all be playing for the Saes.

Not using the residency rule only suits England.

Wales would not lose players on residency to England. Welsh internationals of that standard are few and far between and will often get caped at an early age for Wales in any case.

Wales are missing out on players like Chopra, Roger Johnson, Jerome, Whittingham, to name just a few. The Jacks could probably add a few too like Pratley. Players who may never get in the England side, but would fly in the Welsh squad.

Whether or not you want players playing for Wales under residency is a different matter.

Only missing out on those if they wanted to play for Wales.

On the flip side, Bellamy, Giggs, Bale and in 3 years time Ramsey would potentially all be playing for the Saes.

Would we have missed out on these 4. Wales would have capped these 4 before they were 18, way before they were good enough for England. Once your capped thats it you can't change.

The big difference is, these 4 boys are Welsh and are good enough to play international football for their country. On the flip side the other players I mentioned are English but are not good enough to play for their country. So do they miss out on International football or play for another country they have a connection with. The connection being they lived there for 4 years.

im sure rob earnshaw is south african but he can play for wales because he was at cardiff for 5 years or has he got a welsh granparent or summin

What about Matthew Le Tissier and Graeme Le Saux who were from the Channel Islands?

i think they had the option to play for wales, england or scotland

As much as i want good players playing for wales, id rather them to be welsh!!!

im sure rob earnshaw is south african but he can play for wales because he was at cardiff for 5 years or has he got a welsh granparent or summin

no his mother is welsh

I don't think we would have missed out. At the end of the day if you are Welsh and you truly believe you have Welsh blood flowing through your veins then you would not want to play for anyone else.

I have lived in England now for 5 years. I can't think of anything worse than representing England at anything. That's not being racist or Anti English. I am just Welsh through and through.

Not using the residency rule only suits England.

Wales would not lose players on residency to England. Welsh internationals of that standard are few and far between and will often get caped at an early age for Wales in any case.

Wales are missing out on players like Chopra, Roger Johnson, Jerome, Whittingham, to name just a few. The Jacks could probably add a few too like Pratley. Players who may never get in the England side, but would fly in the Welsh squad.

Whether or not you want players playing for Wales under residency is a different matter.

Only missing out on those if they wanted to play for Wales.

On the flip side, Bellamy, Giggs, Bale and in 3 years time Ramsey would potentially all be playing for the Saes.

Would we have missed out on these 4. Wales would have capped these 4 before they were 18, way before they were good enough for England. Once your capped thats it you can't change.

The big difference is, these 4 boys are Welsh and are good enough to play international football for their country. On the flip side the other players I mentioned are English but are not good enough to play for their country. So do they miss out on International football or play for another country they have a connection with. The connection being they lived there for 4 years.

Wales would only have capped them if they agreed to play for Wales rather than waiting to play for England. Giggs having an English parent could have been capped by them before us. Bale would have qualified when turned 17, having in England 5 years....

Turning your point back on you, you name players we *could* gain - who says they'd want to?

Would we have missed out on these 4. Wales would have capped these 4 before they were 18, way before they were good enough for England. Once your capped thats it you can't change.

The big difference is, these 4 boys are Welsh and are good enough to play international football for their country. On the flip side the other players I mentioned are English but are not good enough to play for their country. So do they miss out on International football or play for another country they have a connection with. The connection being they lived there for 4 years.[/quote]


Wales would only have capped them if they agreed to play for Wales rather than waiting to play for England. Giggs having an English parent could have been capped by them before us. Bale would have qualified when turned 17, having in England 5 years....

Turning your point back on you, you name players we *could* gain - who says they'd want to?[/quote]

I agree these players may not want to come.

However history suggests that players not good enough to play for their national team England will play for another country they have a connection with. I will use Ireland to back up my case. Ireland do not have the residency and parents before grandparents agreement that Wales has with England. Hence the following have all played for Ireland.
Paul McGrath - English
John Aldridge - English
Andy Townsend - Englsih
Tony Cascarino - English
Kevin Kilbane - English
Liam Lawrence - English
Ray Houghton - Scottish
You can go on and on with Ireland.

Also I can not think of one Irish player who has played for England.

Also -
Synod Inn Zidane.
Evan The Cuckoo
Samuel Unwaith Eto
& Ken Wynne Jones is from Tregaron