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Shambles

Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:29 am

Appears to be an absolute shambles from top to bottom at the moment.

I feel for DJ and the players as they are going to get dragged right into it over the next few weeks if results don't improve and the embargo isn't lifted.

It's also now at the stage that while PR is playing the fans anything he can, he also appears involved in a spat with sections of the press - I'd be cagey about believing everything they print wether it is pro or anti PR/City. Demonstrations etc will sell papers so they will print anything they can, even if that means provoking it to begin with.

I forsee demonstrations in the very near future but I do think it should be held off another 10 days or so to see what happens with HMRC and transfers. In the meantime, pursuing an AGM/EGM is the way to go, in my opinion.

There will always be a Cardiff City, whoever is at the helm. The next bloke could be worse.

Example of sorts - my club Clydebank were a fantastic little Scottish League club owned and run by the Steedman family. We had two stints in the Scottish PRemier League and generally were always challenging for the top flight throughout the Steedman's time with a few years exception. We had an all seater stadium that was fit for our needs. Many of the townsfolk however didn't like the Steedman's and in the 70's the crowds dropped and never recovered. They also had a shoddy relationship with the local council ad crowds contiued to suffer. In the 90's the team was getting worse and most fans wanted them out. They then decided that the only way forward was a new stadium(which was to be based on the plans of Glanford Park). Planning permission was denied but they still sold Kilbowie Park(our home) and moved us to Dumbarton to groundshare.

After a year there, and relegation alongf with demonstrations they sold the club to a Bermuda based exile who was a millionaire with big plans. The first six months were great. We had a team that could have won the division above and we were running amok. Then they're real plans came out and it was to move us to Dublin. This led to full scale protests and match disruptions etc. That plan was scuppered but they had 3 or 4 similar plans which never got off the ground. They then tried to sell the club but to no avail. Finally they offered the club to the fans for a small price, although the club was in administration. At the same time Airdrie went bust and they had "revived" under a new name backed by a local businessman. We were assured that if we met the price on the CVA the club was ours. They shafted us over £10k and our club was gone.

We've done the hardwork of getting our club running again through the hard work of a dedicated bunch of fans. There's more on it on www.clydebankfc.co.uk

The point is, the grass isn't always greener. We need to be careful.

Re: Shambles

Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:16 am

Agree with what you are saying there fella. Think this whole thing about risdale is starting to get blown out of proportion. Ok - on the face of it it looks like the fans have been spun a whole lot of lies. I am one of the circa 10k who has bought a season ticket very early, however the main factor in me doing that was the chance of a free year of footy next yr , not the promise it would go on players. Although obviously I would have preferred it does.

We are in a decent enough position in the league (although think we should have another c. 10 points if the players properly pulled their weight in all games) and to be fair to riddler he has delivered on the new ground. Now the ball was certainly started rolling under sam however the council were never going to play ball with him at the helm.

The arguement over whether you prefer ninian or the new ground is irrlevent. As much as i liked NP there was no long term future there. If we did go up, and it would have been great to have a yr of prem footy there, however if there was no new ground plans in the pipeline we would have had to seat the grange and bob bank and had a capcacity of prop about 14-15k. Completely inadequate to complete financially at that level.

With the exception of the scottish clubs you mentioned and if my memory serves me right - aldershot in england - I cant remember a club getting wound up completely so although that gets bound about in the press that aint going to happen. So the worse case scenario - get docked 10 points for going into admin - so we end up a mid table side in a new ground ready for next yr with the bulk of historic debt written off.

Do think riddler needs to re-evaluate what he tells the fans and press about the financial status of the club but personally dont think this growing witch hunt for risdale will do the club any good in the longer term.