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DO YOU BELIEVE STEVE BORLEY SHOULD PAY THE TAX

Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:32 am

Bill now, save PR which means he would continue as our Chairman and take the plaudits, then sign prob 4 loan players on over paid wages and then be Free to continue his Spin.

Or wait till about Feb 4th-8th to pay the Tax Bill, PR will then be Crucified in My Opinion, We could still get loan players in and once PR has gone I have been assured the Malaysians will then come on board.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:38 am

Can't he loan the money on the condition that the lying White haired exotic fish lover stands down?

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:39 am

I trust Steve Borley to do the right thing for our club - He's a sharp cookie.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:39 am

ihatealiens wrote:I trust Steve Borley to do the right thing for our club - He's a sharp cookie.


I have to say those Tits are f*cking Superb :lol: :ayatollah:

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:40 am

Blake wrote:Can't he loan the money on the condition that the lying White haired exotic fish lover stands down?

I dont think he will stand down he is too brazen for that he will have to be run out of town - he has too much to lose.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:41 am

Forever Blue wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:I trust Steve Borley to do the right thing for our club - He's a sharp cookie.


I have to say those Tits are f*cking Superb :lol: :ayatollah:

wish I woke up to them every morning :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: DO YOU BELIEVE STEVE BORLEY SHOULD PAY THE TAX

Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:43 am

Forever Blue wrote:Bill now, save PR which means he would continue as our Chairman and take the plaudits, then sign prob 4 loan players on over paid wages and then be Free to continue his Spin.

Or wait till about Feb 4th-8th to pay the Tax Bill, PR will then be Crucified in My Opinion, We could still get loan players in and once PR has gone I have been assured the Malaysians will then come on board.


Based on that then I go for Option 2.

Let's be fair even if we sign some loan players promotion isn't assured and we could just end up wasting the season ticket cash and worse get stuck with Ridsdale whose credibility will rise because Borley saved his arse.

With option 2 Ridsdale’s last vestiges of credibility are destroyed and we have more than an even chance of getting rid of him.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:45 am

I think there is far too much talking and not enough action. We are watching him take our club into administration and possibly much worse, yet all we do is sit back saying wait for this, wait for that. It will soon be too late to do anything meaning we will all be moaning that much more, whilst all we did when we had the opportunity to do something was sit and watch.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:49 am

Option 2 - I think there is a sense of togetherness amongst the squad now (more than all season in my opinion)- they are digging deep and the bubble may burst but I think we can win today and Tuesday/Next Saturday and then rid the Riddler from the club once and for all. Reinforcements in for Newcastle and Peterboro thanks to the backing of Vincent Tan and his chums and premiership place sealed by Mid April :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:54 am

Can't the other board members give Ridders a vote of no confidence and kick him out, if hes the only reason stopping the malaysians investing??

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:55 am

Pay the Bill now. Players still available in February will be the dregs. I just don't believe there are no other ways for the major shareholders to force Ridsdale out other than delaying payment until February. If they want him out they can get him out by other means.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:01 am

Staffs Blue wrote:Can't the other board members give Ridders a vote of no confidence and kick him out, if hes the only reason stopping the malaysians investing??

Yes but the majority of the board members are Riddler allies allegedly. I would imagine an EGM would have to be called and a resolution put down for a vote of no confidence in him. That would take some time, however for all we know this sort of thing may already be happening in the background.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:05 am

ihatealiens wrote:
Staffs Blue wrote:Can't the other board members give Ridders a vote of no confidence and kick him out, if hes the only reason stopping the malaysians investing??

Yes but the majority of the board members are Riddler allies allegedly. I would imagine an EGM would have to be called and a resolution put down for a vote of no confidence in him. That would take some time, however for all we know this sort of thing may already be happening in the background.


Correct thats the main prob.in the last 3 yrs he has surrounded himself with them.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:11 am

Forever Blue wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:
Staffs Blue wrote:Can't the other board members give Ridders a vote of no confidence and kick him out, if hes the only reason stopping the malaysians investing??

Yes but the majority of the board members are Riddler allies allegedly. I would imagine an EGM would have to be called and a resolution put down for a vote of no confidence in him. That would take some time, however for all we know this sort of thing may already be happening in the background.


Correct thats the main prob.in the last 3 yrs he has surrounded himself with them.

I am sure there is a lot of manoeuvering going on in the background that most of us will know nothing about. However there will be people such as your goodself who will know a fair bit and will want to keep it hush hush for the time being ;) There are some sharp cookies who have lots of money to lose and for us as fans to think nothing is going on in the background would be pretty naive. I have faith that that everything will turn out for the good eventually. Meanwhile lets have a win today then lads.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:13 am

Staffs Blue wrote:Can't the other board members give Ridders a vote of no confidence and kick him out, if hes the only reason stopping the malaysians investing??


As IHA has stated his fellow board members other than Borley are his pals Whiteley and Harris who won't vote against him. I suppose he could be voted out at the EGM but I assume you need a large number of shareholders to vote that way.

The best way is to totally destroy his credibility and make him walk away. Someone seems to be doing a good job of this already. Ridsdale was led to believe the Tax Bill would be paid within '10 days' of 8 Jan and it wasn't.

He is now on record saying that there will be a press conference on the 31 Jan to parade our new signings. That gives whoever is going to pay the tax bill a very good reason for not doing so until the last possible moment (9 Feb) simply to make him look more stupid and incompetent than he already is.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:14 am

I haven't slagged off MM's board, I think it's great, but there are some real saddo's on there, but personally it makes me smile to see how blinkered and sad some of them are. There are still far more good sensible posters than saddo's,and I hope it keeps going forever. I have told Annis and I disagree with him banning some of them from coming on here. I think they should come on and let the normals amongst us just shoot them down with common sense and healthy debate, if they personally abuse me ,I will hunt them down, but if they are just "different" with a small "d" then bring them on.

Now below is a message from one thread about the tax bill, and basically it's having a go at this board about getting it wrong about SB paying the tax bill. Personally I don't think anyone's got it wrong and it's pretty much how we said it was. They are even having a go at the CCSC for saying similar, but I have copied Dr Pop's (CCSC) post to show he says much the same as us.


Yes the rumour was confirmed by Steve himself before yesterday's game. It is indeed good news and reassuring that Steve and others are prepared to step in yet again. However as I stated in my article, we can't continue like this and need to either cut costs drastically or secure a takeover with rich owners who have a genunine interest in seeing our club progress.
As for Ridsdale, I don't trust him and am sick of the lies and bluster that he constantly comes out with. However, I am with Vince in as much as we need Ridsdale to deliver with regards to any potential takeover, as he has been the go-between with the Malaysians and A.N. Other's at this point.
If he negotiates a successful takeover then I would be happy for him to ride into the sunset once it's complete.


This was taken from Dr Pop of the CCSC. I think it's pretty straight forward, and if people have been misled it's only their enthusiasm that's done it, personally I am happier that they are promising we wont get wound up, whilst putting PR in such an untennable position, that even his ego wont stop him falling on his sword and walking away.

This post and others that night were all based around the same fact, and the fact was SB had let it be known that the tax bill would be paid, and he was involved in helping to pay it.A lot of us may have thought the cheque's in the post,but as the HMRC will tell you cheques and post are words that shouldn't be used in the saame sentence when Cardiff City are involved,lol.

Can you imagine the scenario if they paid the tax bill now, It would be spun out by PR as "I've got us back on track, we are robust, we have players coming and everything is great, you should all be greatful to have me here" we could then bumble about as we have been, selling everything that ain't nailed down and anything that is earmarked for future income, just to keep us afloat until he find's someone gullible enough to pay him 45 pence per share so he can make a killing. Allegedly.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:26 am

I haven't slagged off MM's board, I think it's great, but there are some real saddo's on there, but personally it makes me smile to see how blinkered and sad some of them are. There are still far more good sensible posters than saddo's,and I hope it keeps going forever. I have told Annis and I disagree with him banning some of them from coming on here. I think they should come on and let the normals amongst us just shoot them down with common sense and healthy debate, if they personally abuse me ,I will hunt them down, but if they are just "different" with a small "d" then bring them on.









Gwyn, I agree we could show them for what they are slime balls and cowards, but I dont want this Forum to become a slagging board and full of personal insults. like Mikes has become, Mike is working hard to calm his down but you cant talk to some of them as they just get worse. i would rather them stay on Mikes, as they dont have Opinions just insults.

They dont like it when this Forum gets a lot of things right 95% of the time :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

I have actually got fed up off talking about the other mb.
Gwyn my friend it was you who put it in my head to start a new Mb up and I am glad we did :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:33 am

ihatealiens wrote:I trust Steve Borley to do the right thing for our club - He's a sharp cookie.


I'm not sure he is when it comes to the City.

Don't get me wrong I have huge respect for Steve but I think he, like any of us would be is blinded when it comes to the City.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:35 am

dorsetblue wrote:Option 2 - I think there is a sense of togetherness amongst the squad now (more than all season in my opinion)- they are digging deep and the bubble may burst but I think we can win today and Tuesday/Next Saturday and then rid the Riddler from the club once and for all. Reinforcements in for Newcastle and Peterboro thanks to the backing of Vincent Tan and his chums and premiership place sealed by Mid April :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Is that Blazing Saddles posting under a different name.

Premiership place by Mid April?

Love that one.

Re: DO YOU BELIEVE STEVE BORLEY SHOULD PAY THE TAX

Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:41 am

Forever Blue wrote:Bill now, save PR which means he would continue as our Chairman and take the plaudits, then sign prob 4 loan players on over paid wages and then be Free to continue his Spin.

Or wait till about Feb 4th-8th to pay the Tax Bill, PR will then be Crucified in My Opinion, We could still get loan players in and once PR has gone I have been assured the Malaysians will then come on board.



as i have stated previously there is no way that steve should pay the bill before the transfer window shuts.
Pr has been responsible for the day to day running of this club since sam left therefore he should be the investing some of the money he has taken out of the club in unwarranted bonuses to help pay the tax bill.
To expect a fellow director to bail him out of the shit and secure his job is typical of the mans arrogance towards people.
I look forward to february the 2nd when he has to explain to the tens of thousands of people why the tax bill has not been paid and no players brought in despite all his promises.
I believe on that date that his position in the club will be untenable but getting him to fall on his sword will be a different matter.
If he wont go quietly then the Agm has to be brought forward as soon as possible to allow the shareholders to rid the club of this unwanted chairman

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:50 am

It's all taking time we don't have though Steve and God knows when we will have this critical GM. I fear that this GM wil not come soon enough to force him out in time, if it does at all. The only way I can see us having a chance of getting him out is via a prolonged, sustained and organised campaign, critically including as many fans as possible declaring they will not invest anoither penny into the club whilst he remains at the club in any capacity. As someone else mentioned, a petition demanding re-imbursement for season tickets sold on yet another lie would be a good idea too, even if it came to no fruition, it would set the cat amongst the pidgeons. Demonstrations and the threat of many fans not renewing season tickets or investing in the club in any capacity whilst he remains, culminating in a GM that lays bare his lies, deceit and incompetence is the only chance we have of ousting him in time in my opinion, the more we stand by and do nothing, the more chance of him dragging this out long enough to cause even more damage than he already has.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:53 am

I was always a believer in Risdsale in the past, although I still had a soft spot for Sam. I saw Ridsdale as more financially astute and less of a maverick, more capable of dealing with businessmen in the traditional sense. My opinion has completely changed over the last few months. Yes, Ridsdale has delivered a lot, but at what price?

I naively believed that Ridsdale had delivered a new stadium based on a sound financial foundation ie a club with a self sustaining future. However, it turns out that Ridsdale has done exactly the same with us as Leeds, borrowed millions to deliver, with no real idea of how it would pay for itself.

When Ridsdale first arrived, his instruction from the board was to deliver a new stadium and he would get a £500k bonus. He has done that, got his bonus, however (and its a big however), "with no capability of being able to sustain itself". He won the battle but lost the war.

The turning point in my opinion of Ridsdale came when he didn't pay tax on his personal businesses and the alarm bells rang like crazy, if he was prepared do do this with his own finances, I didn't want him in a million miles of my beloved City.

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Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:56 am

saladthedragon wrote:It's all taking time we don't have though Steve and God knows when we will have this critical GM. I fear that this GM wil not come soon enough to force him out in time, if it does at all. The only way I can see us having a chance of getting him out is via a prolonged, sustained and organised campaign, critically including as many fans as possible declaring they will not invest anoither penny into the club whilst he remains at the club in any capacity. As someone else mentioned, a petition demanding re-imbursement for season tickets sold on yet another lie would be a good idea too, even if it came to no fruition, it would set the cat amongst the pidgeons. Demonstrations and the threat of many fans not renewing season tickets or investing in the club in any capacity whilst he remains, culminating in a GM that lays bare his lies, deceit and incompetence is the only chance we have of ousting him in time in my opinion, the more we stand by and do nothing, the more chance of him dragging this out long enough to cause even more damage than he already has.


I think the petition idea is a very good one. There is nothing stopping us from starting that now as it would take a couple of weeks to get everyone's name down before being presented to the board.