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" Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:33 pm

Alan Shearer accepts the career he covets in management must start with a period outside of the Premier League, even though the financial problems facing Cardiff City have deterred him from taking up the reins in South Wales.

Sources in Cardiff described the task facing David Jones' successor as huge, with a squad of only 15, £40m of debt and Malaysian owners who have paid Inland Revenue bills and the on-loan Craig Bellamy's £25,000-a-week wages – but not resolved underlying financial problems.

Watford's Malky Mackay, is now set to succeed Jones, with £300,000 enough for his club to let him talk to Cardiff, but his kitty is not likely to be more than £5m.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 97884.html

Seems like bullshit to me! :? :ayatollah:

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:35 pm

Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:37 pm

Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.


What about the £20 million budget we supposedly had for the forthcoming season then? :ayatollah:

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:40 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.


What about the £20 million budget we supposedly had for the forthcoming season then? :ayatollah:


Not a chance will we spend that much money.

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:41 pm

Bloobirds101 wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.


What about the £20 million budget we supposedly had for the forthcoming season then? :ayatollah:


Not a chance will we spend that much money.


And how do you know this? :? :ayatollah:

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:43 pm

Sounds like a non story a 10 year old could write up. Fillinng column space.

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:47 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Sounds like a non story a 10 year old could write up. Fillinng column space.


Think you're doing the journalist a disservice here, as he must be at least 12! :) :ayatollah:

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:46 am

The article is not far from the truth the 20 million budget that was mentioned previously on this board includes the wage bill which last season was 16 million, so a 4 or 5 million budget for transfers is about right.

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:52 am

but we have made a big hole in that figure by releasing players and transfers, so 20 mil is a good figure, i bet a lot of championship sides would kill for that budget

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:08 am

Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.



I am with you on that, Its not about Spending big, its how it is spent, WISELY :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.



I am with you on that, Its not about Spending big, its how it is spent, WISELY :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


I agree. As much as it pains me to say this, both Swansea and a Norwich illustrated this last season.

Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:03 am

Overthemoon wrote:
Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.


What about the £20 million budget we supposedly had for the forthcoming season then? :ayatollah:


The 20 million includes wages so 1 player on 20k a week is 1 million per year.I think last seasons wage bill was around 14 million.

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:18 am

Pidgeofcdf wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.


What about the £20 million budget we supposedly had for the forthcoming season then? :ayatollah:


The 20 million includes wages so 1 player on 20k a week is 1 million per year.I think last seasons wage bill was around 14 million.


I understand all that, as I posted it in another thread and I believe that last season's budget was £16 million!

However, the article mentions that there is only likely to be a £5 million kitty, which doesn't clarify whether that is the total to cover wages, agent's fees and transfer fees, or merely transfer fees and agent's fees !

From the many previous posts on here, with Chops now gone, it would appear that there is nobody at the club on anything like £20,000 per week, with the nearest being Hudson, who I seem to remember being on £12,000 -£14,000 per week! :ayatollah:

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:10 am

What financial problems!!!!

First I've heard of it.

On a serious note, that only leaves Shearer's options as one of the top 5 or 6 in the Premiership. Unlikely IMHO
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:18 am

The Independant lmfao, :o just about as reliable as a chocolate radiator :mrgreen:
As for financial problems, what club as not got debt apart from Man City and Chelsea, even the mighty Man Ure has debt and a hell of a lot more than ours, :evil: at least ours are under control and being dealt with. 8-)
Where the feck do some journalists get their information from :roll: :lol:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:41 am

If Shearer needed to spend big then it shows just how big a bullet we dodged in him not coming here. Swansea spent very little including wages, Blackpool, Burnley too in years gone past.

Just shows he was not up to the job. However no quotes, no facts, no links it's bs.

If VT and TG are not resolving underlying financial issues, then what was the PMG deal all about?

Shearer didnt join because either he didnt want to work with Bellamy or he was adviced the job was too big for a first really go at management or both.

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:12 am

Overthemoon wrote:Alan Shearer accepts the career he covets in management must start with a period outside of the Premier League, even though the financial problems facing Cardiff City have deterred him from taking up the reins in South Wales.

Sources in Cardiff described the task facing David Jones' successor as huge, with a squad of only 15, £40m of debt and Malaysian owners who have paid Inland Revenue bills and the on-loan Craig Bellamy's £25,000-a-week wages – but not resolved underlying financial problems.

Watford's Malky Mackay, is now set to succeed Jones, with £300,000 enough for his club to let him talk to Cardiff, but his kitty is not likely to be more than £5m.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 97884.html

Seems like bullshit to me! :? :ayatollah:


I think the article should have been entitled:

"Independant Employ new 'journalist from' South Wales Echo" :lol: :lol:

What a pathetic story. Any half-decent manager with a brain cell should be
able to get promotion from this division with a £16m budget, let alone £20m
...unfortunately, we had Jones!

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:16 am

I think he just wasn't up to the job and bottled it when he realised he might have to do some work for his wage.

Good riddance I say

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:20 am

LOL at Shearer having no bottle.

You can't compare Cardiff to Swansea, Burnley etc

WE DON'T HAVE A SQUAD!

We need to rebuild our midfield.

We need to rebuild our strikeforce.

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:28 am

And he clearly wasn't up to the job!!

Nobody said it would be easy and anybody with an ounce of sense knows we a to re-build but he would rather sit on his arse on the TV sofa waffling bullshit

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:34 am

Based on what?

Not up to the job becuase he didn't want it?

Managers turn down jobs becuase they are not up it? Rather than simply not wanting the job? Right..... :roll: :roll: :roll:

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:45 am

Based on the newspaper article that stated he didn't take the job due to the "financial problems".

He didn't want the job as he didn't think he could do it, clearly looking for a more cushy number!

Bloody hell :lol:

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:49 am

And the article is full of f*cking holes.

But then again, look who is still in the running for the job?

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:50 am

Big Boss Man wrote:LOL at Shearer having no bottle.

You can't compare Cardiff to Swansea, Burnley etc

WE DON'T HAVE A SQUAD!

We need to rebuild our midfield.

We need to rebuild our strikeforce.


Erm.... exactly. Methinks that sounded like a little way out of his comfort zone mate.
He probably thought... Oooh Chopra, Bothroyd, Boyd, Bellamy, McNaughton.... got
some good players here. Then the reality set in that theyd all be gone barring Craig,
he'd have to rebuild AND turn the academy around. For a man with little or no
managerial experience its a big ask. I dont blame him for not wanting the job. But
lets face it, he was never going to be offered it either, hes just lacking experience.

I know your going to say Roy keane Kevin keegan etc again, but it doesnt matter what
other people have done. Shearer might not have been up to it, or wanted the hassle,
and perhaps he knew it deep down

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:53 am

There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:13 am

Big Boss Man wrote:There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?


You see that at Chelsea? Hell that might be an even more poisoned chalice than this place though as you need to average more than 1 trophy a year or get sacked.

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:16 am

Big Boss Man wrote:There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?


Whats your point??

Shearer met TG and came out saying "the job wasnt for him"... So he
must have wanted it before he went in.

If as you say he was put off because he has got to totally rebuild the
side, then f**k me, he's never going to go far in management is he!!

The majority of managers jobs become available because the other guy
has fucked up, and left a mess. Going into a football club and rebuilding
in your own image is part of the remit for a modern football manager.

You watch him stick to the BBC now, he's had a glimpse of the big bad
world and decided to stay nice and comfy in the Beeb, dont blame him
either!

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:18 am

RFMH wrote:
Big Boss Man wrote:There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?


You see that at Chelsea? Hell that might be an even more poisoned chalice than this place though as you need to average more than 1 trophy a year or get sacked.


It's Gus for Chelsea and everyone knows that.

He is under contract and that is why it is taking time.

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:21 am

taffyapple wrote:
Big Boss Man wrote:There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?


Whats your point??

Shearer met TG and came out saying "the job wasnt for him"... So he
must have wanted it before he went in.

If as you say he was put off because he has got to totally rebuild the
side, then f**k me, he's never going to go far in management is he!!

The majority of managers jobs become available because the other guy
has fucked up, and left a mess. Going into a football club and rebuilding
in your own image is part of the remit for a modern football manager.

You watch him stick to the BBC now, he's had a glimpse of the big bad
world and decided to stay nice and comfy in the Beeb, dont blame him
either!


Again, you said it's about his bottle and he wants to play it safe.

If he wanted to play it safe he would of signed for Man Utd and never tried to save Newcastle Utd as manager.

West Ham have been able to bring in Big Sam. A manager with a proven track record.

No one seems to want this job. What does that tell you?

Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:45 am

Big Boss Man wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Big Boss Man wrote:There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?


Whats your point??

Shearer met TG and came out saying "the job wasnt for him"... So he
must have wanted it before he went in.

If as you say he was put off because he has got to totally rebuild the
side, then f**k me, he's never going to go far in management is he!!

The majority of managers jobs become available because the other guy
has fucked up, and left a mess. Going into a football club and rebuilding
in your own image is part of the remit for a modern football manager.

You watch him stick to the BBC now, he's had a glimpse of the big bad
world and decided to stay nice and comfy in the Beeb, dont blame him
either!


Again, you said it's about his bottle and he wants to play it safe.

If he wanted to play it safe he would of signed for Man Utd and never tried to save Newcastle Utd as manager.

West Ham have been able to bring in Big Sam. A manager with a proven track record.

No one seems to want this job. What does that tell you?


It tells me that you believe everything you read mate. Seeing as the only person to
actually turn round and say No thanks was Shearer, and we dont know if he was told
he wasnt suitable before he had his press conference. We dont know how many
applied. We dont know how many have been interviewed.

We DO know that Shearer was already in place when he took the Newcastle job for
8 weeks that saw them relegated and only winning one game