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Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:48 am

Big Boss Man wrote:
taffyapple wrote:
Big Boss Man wrote:There is a difference about being up to the job and having a lack of bottle.

TA -I don't know if you missed it, but I don't see anyone in the press calling for the job. I don't see a high pile of CVs.

What does that tell you?


Whats your point??

Shearer met TG and came out saying "the job wasnt for him"... So he
must have wanted it before he went in.

If as you say he was put off because he has got to totally rebuild the
side, then f**k me, he's never going to go far in management is he!!

The majority of managers jobs become available because the other guy
has fucked up, and left a mess. Going into a football club and rebuilding
in your own image is part of the remit for a modern football manager.

You watch him stick to the BBC now, he's had a glimpse of the big bad
world and decided to stay nice and comfy in the Beeb, dont blame him
either!


Again, you said it's about his bottle and he wants to play it safe.

If he wanted to play it safe he would of signed for Man Utd and never tried to save Newcastle Utd as manager.

West Ham have been able to bring in Big Sam. A manager with a proven track record.

No one seems to want this job. What does that tell you?


Erm I dont suggest he's got no bottle there.

I just say he probably thinks the job is too much risk for not enough reward
i.e... if he fucks up, it'l look bad on his career CV. Dont mean he 'bottled it'
just meant he chose the safer option
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:52 am

It common sense.

No one wants the job. Thus, I take from that there maybe something wrong.

MM wasn't on top of the wish list.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:59 am

Big Boss Man wrote:It common sense.

No one wants the job. Thus, I take from that there maybe something wrong.

MM wasn't on top of the wish list.


What evidence do you have to say no-one wants the job?

What evidence do you have to prove that Shearer never just walked out
of that meeting knowing full well he wasnt going to get the job
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:00 pm

That MM wasn't our first choice.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:22 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:That MM wasn't our first choice.


Again, we may never know. Just cos (allegedly) Shearer got interviewed
before him dont mean shit. MM was already in gainful employment. Going
by what Watford are saying there is no complaint about tapping up going in, so
City have done it by the book (allegedly!)... It makes sense to find out
how the land lies before speaking to another clubs manager.

you seem to have a fixation on Alan Shearer bordering on Psychosis

He was a brilliant striker, one of the best over the last ten years

He has done f**k all to suggest he could be as successful as a manager,
seriously now, f**k all!!!
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:30 pm

Again, you have missed the point.

I said Shearer turned the job down becuase he thought that maybe something wasn't right.

I can back that point up due to us having a hard time finding someone who does want the job.

The club has finally turned to MM.

Some will say look at Chealsea. Everyone in the game knows it's going to be Gus. We had a number of targets and for some reason they didn't work out and now we FINALLY turn to MM.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:43 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:Again, you have missed the point.

I said Shearer turned the job down becuase he thought that maybe something wasn't right.

I can back that point up due to us having a hard time finding someone who does want the job.

The club has finally turned to MM.

Some will say look at Chealsea. Everyone in the game knows it's going to be Gus. We had a number of targets and for some reason they didn't work out and now we FINALLY turn to MM.


You are deranged

Show me where in Alan Shearers statement that it says

"I turned Cardiff City down"

He says (quote)

"During these talks I was most impressed with the vision, ambition and determination of
the owner, Dato Chan Tien Ghee, and the board. Unfortunately those talks were unsuccessful
on this occasion." (unquote)

Where does he say he was offered the job???

Help me to understand life on Planet Shearer, please! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff?

Postby TheTrueBlue7 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:20 pm

Pidgeofcdf wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
Bloobirds101 wrote:Sounds like the truth to me Image

We don't need to spend big, just wisely.


What about the £20 million budget we supposedly had for the forthcoming season then? :ayatollah:


The 20 million includes wages so 1 player on 20k a week is 1 million per year.I think last seasons wage bill was around 14 million.


Looking at some of the PREM free agents we could snap some of them up
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Postby Cwmann_Bluebird » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:23 pm

All these English daily newspapers have no info about CCFC's financial situation so they just say that we were threatened with winding-up orders 2 seasons ago !

Crap journalism !
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:28 pm

Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:All these English daily newspapers have no info about CCFC's financial situation so they just say that we were threatened with winding-up orders 2 seasons ago !

Crap journalism !


Exactly. But its good news really. Better us coming in under the radar for players.
Clubs wont immediately put the price up cos its Cardiff City, less chance of getting
caught up in a bidding war
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Cardiff Daft! » Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:33 pm

taffyapple wrote: Whats your point??

Shearer met TG and came out saying "the job wasnt for him"... So he
must have wanted it before he went in.

If as you say he was put off because he has got to totally rebuild the
side, then f**k me, he's never going to go far in management is he!!

The majority of managers jobs become available because the other guy
has fucked up, and left a mess. Going into a football club and rebuilding
in your own image is part of the remit for a modern football manager.

You watch him stick to the BBC now, he's had a glimpse of the big bad
world and decided to stay nice and comfy in the Beeb, dont blame him
either!


Spot on! :ayatollah:
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby stickywicket » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:44 pm

Shearer or his agent spoke to someone with inside knowledge.
An ex chairman or manager maybe.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:28 pm

If it's true that MM has said no then it looks like I might of been correct with my guess.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby nerd » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:30 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:If it's true that MM has said no then it looks like I might of been correct with my guess.


Or more plausibly, Mackay was the first choice determined by Jenkins, Whiteley.

Malaysians then decide they'd rather have a "name".

If I was Mackay in that scenario, there's a good chance I'd dick the club along to let them know how it felt.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:36 pm

That could be the case.

But why do that and run the risk of hurting your career in the long term?

There is something not right.

Shearer didn't like it and now MM feels the same.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:53 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:That could be the case.

But why do that and run the risk of hurting your career in the long term?

There is something not right.

Shearer didn't like it and now MM feels the same.


I think this will turn out to be close to the truth

Malky was a shoe in for the job

but somehow Shearers name got thrown into the pot and was given
an interview. Shearer expected the Club to tell him that if he didnt
want Bellamy, then Bellamy would not be coming back. But he was
left in no doubt that in "this part of the world" Bellamy was a bigger
name than him, and that Bellamy was part of Cardiff Citys future...
Shearer walked.

Malky saw his arse when he found out Shearer had been interviewed
cos he was under the impression the job was his, bar the formalities.
He felt let down, out on a limb.

Since which time Cardiff City have been busting a gut, Jenkins will
have been on his knees begging Mackay to come here.

Going by Annis and Carls "3pm tomorrow" posts I am now confident
that Mackay has been persuaded to take the job!

But I bet the Clubs stupidity has forced them to weigh in a bit more
money for the new boy!!

f**k me, what a football Club, why do i bother :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby nerd » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:01 pm

Big Boss Man wrote:That could be the case.

But why do that and run the risk of hurting your career in the long term?

There is something not right.

Shearer didn't like it and now MM feels the same.


Shearer didn't like a job he didn't apply for shocker?

Mackay was certainly sounded out; then finds out Malaysians want a big name media pundit instead of someone who has been actually managing. Any serious manager would of course be put out by that.

Any manager / pundit expecting to be paid squillions and get squillions to play fantasy football is quit frankly an idiot. And not to mention the fact they'd clearly know zero about us or the Championship.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:03 pm

It could be worse, you could be a Villa fan!

They are about to give the job to the ex manager of their biggest rivals who took that club down twice!!!!

I bought the Echo today. Big pile of shite!

Shocking.....

* It said that Shearer turned us down.

BUT THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.

The article said if what of Shearer ended up like Roy Keane? D0 YOU MEAN WINNING THE LEAGUE AND TAKING THE TEAM TO THE PREM? Isn't that our main aim? Or are we aiming to win the Prem? These guys are paid to write about football?

I did find out that Tommy Craig was going to be Shearer's AM.

Tommy Craig is one of the best coaches in the UK. Keegan signed the players and did the prep talks and Tommy did the coaching during their time together.
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby taffyapple » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:06 pm

How ironic though if old bighead Shearer WAS told that whatever
Cardiff city decide to do, Craig Bellamy WILL be part of their plans

Sort of:

Sorry Al, if its you or Craig... erm.... There's the door :D
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:08 pm

Another trend with are seeing in football is that rich owners want the players they want at the club.

That's why Jose left Chelsea.

Keegan left Newcastle and why Shearer didn't take the job.

Why Big Sam was fired from Blackburn.

Maybe the owners are looking for a coach and want someone else to be in control of tranfers?
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Re: " Shearer Put Off By Financial Problems At Cardiff ? "

Postby Big Boss Man » Thu Jun 16, 2011 10:12 pm

And the owner control thing makes sense to me.

Newcastle Utd couldn't find anyone with a good rep after they sacked Hughton. They brought in Alan Pardew!

Blackburn have not been able to attract a manager of note.

How many managers have Chelsea had since Jose? 4?
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