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THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:30 am

I know for a fact yesterday and the next couple of days Guy and Borley are working 24/7 on completing the Rescue package together, they are very confident it will be sorted, but I just cant believe it has come down to this and if they fail Our Club is fucked, yet PR continues to make statements how everything is ok and the Club is better now than ever finicially.

I Believe,Guy spent the day with the Tax Man yesterday, but they want the money this time NO MORE PROMISES.
The Malaysians have to come on board this month, as WE CANT SURVIVE TO THE END OF THE SEASON, More Tax Bills are Due,plus many many other unpaid bills need paying.

ONE MAN IS TO BLAME IN MY OPINION and HAS SURROUNDED HIMSELF ON THE CURRENT BOARD WITH LEECHES AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED :evil:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:45 am

I cant believe its come to this again either and we've had 1 or 2 close scares in the past . Even if we have a team to support on 11th Feb without major and further investment how the hell can the current regime get us to the end of the season let alone thru the summer ? The club aint being run like a business and it shows and the money seems to be leaking away somewhere , loved the quote last week of " nobody can expect to own and run a football club and make money " . Well how about NOT LOSING so much money Mr Ridsdale ???? :ayatollah:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:03 am

The board must believe they can pay the tax bill otherwise there would have been a fire sale yesterday, they would have been offering Ross, Chops and Bothroyd at about £1.5million a piece just to survive.

There would have been uproar but if we are at the end of out tether big decisions would need to be made.

Isn't there anyone working in the tax office who would accept £100k to tick the 'Paid' box on their system. :mrgreen:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:17 am

Resort to bribery ? Whatever nxt lol :lol:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:28 am

Annis, I see now on IC Wales Trading standards are investigating the club, now if it emerges there the 'LAw' rules have been broken does anyone know the implications on trading or financially that may have on the club

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:30 am

Martyn1963 wrote:Resort to bribery ? Whatever nxt lol :lol:


When push comes to shove....... :twisted:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:41 am

Cefnfforestbluebird wrote:Annis, I see now on IC Wales Trading standards are investigating the club, now if it emerges there the 'LAw' rules have been broken does anyone know the implications on trading or financially that may have on the club


This taken from the Citizen's Advice Electronic System with regard to false descriptions of goods and services



False description of goods or services

Section 1 of the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 states that it is a criminal offence to make certain false descriptions about goods which are supplied in the course of a trade or business. Section 14 of the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 states that it is a criminal offence intentionally or recklessly to make a false statement about services or facilities. The Act covers descriptions which are made verbally or in writing, for example, in adverts or pictures, on the packaging or labelling. The description has to have been made by a trader (not a private seller) for an offence to be committed.

The legislation specifies which aspects of goods are covered by the Trade Descriptions Act. These are:-

• quantity, size or gauge, for example, 'twelve feet width'
• method of manufacture, production, processing or reconditioning, for example, 'handmade chocolates'
• composition, for example, 'made with butter'
• fitness for purpose, strength, performance, behaviour or accuracy, for example, 'will not break or chip'
• any other physical characteristics, for example, 'in very good condition'
• claims about testing by any person and the results of the tests, for example, 'the French Navy painted a ship with this paint and found no sign of rust after a year'
• statements which indicate approval by any person or conformity with a type approved by any person, for example,''Which?' best buy'
• statements about the place or date of manufacture, production, processing or reconditioning of the goods, for example, 'Italian knitwear'
• statements about who manufactured, produced, processed or reconditioned the goods, for example, 'Chanel no. 5'
• other history, including previous ownership, for example, 'one previous owner'.

Statements about the price of goods are not covered by the Trade Descriptions Act 1968, but are covered by other legislation

Provided the goods are supplied in the course of a business or trade, the Act covers free gifts, for example, free gifts offered with a service.

Sometimes it is not obvious when a trader is giving a false description of goods. For example, a second-hand car which shows low mileage may have had its milometer altered by the trader. This is an offence under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. It is also an offence under the Act to sell counterfeit goods, for example, jeans marked incorrectly with the name of a famous designer.

The legislation specifies which aspects of services are covered by the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. These are:-

• the provision of services, accommodation or facilities, for example, 'qualified nurse in attendance'
• the nature of any service, for example, 'heated indoor swimming pool'
• the time at which or manner in which or persons by whom any services are provided, for example, 'open until 8pm on Fridays'
• the examination, approval or evaluation by any person of any service, for example, 'recommended by NHBC' or 'a member of CORGI'
• the location or amenities of any accommodation, for example, 'pony riding available nearby'.

The following aspects of services were not held by the courts to be facilities or services and are not covered by the Trade Descriptions Act 1968:-

• a notice for a 'closing down' sale
• free gifts offered with a service
• a promise to refund the price if goods can be bought more cheaply elsewhere
• sales of houses. However, false descriptions about property are dealt with by the Property Misdescriptions Act 1991

A client may be able to make a civil claim for misrepresentation and may be in a stronger position to do this if the trader has been convicted of an offence under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. Alternatively, the client may be able to take action for breach of contract if goods do not match their description and the transaction is covered by the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). However, in breach of contract cases, you should check whether the trader warned the client of the misdescription, for example, that the size on a label was wrong, or whether the goods were marked as 'seconds'. In these cases, the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) does not apply.


So basically it is a criminal offence to miss sell Goods or Services by using false discriptions. For me the above would indicate that we have a bang to rights case against the Chairman and as a man who has worked years in retail I find it astonishing that Ridsdale didn't know this.

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:43 am

Annis, here's a question...

Has the inability to sell any of our playing squad in this transfer window affected the board's plans to save the club financially? Or did they prepare a contingency plan?

Personally, I am very surprised we didn't sell anyone.

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:44 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Cefnfforestbluebird wrote:Annis, I see now on IC Wales Trading standards are investigating the club, now if it emerges there the 'LAw' rules have been broken does anyone know the implications on trading or financially that may have on the club


This taken from the Citizen's Advice Electronic System with regard to false descriptions of goods and services



False description of goods or services

Section 1 of the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 states that it is a criminal offence to make certain false descriptions about goods which are supplied in the course of a trade or business. Section 14 of the Trade Descriptions Act 1968 states that it is a criminal offence intentionally or recklessly to make a false statement about services or facilities. The Act covers descriptions which are made verbally or in writing, for example, in adverts or pictures, on the packaging or labelling. The description has to have been made by a trader (not a private seller) for an offence to be committed.

The legislation specifies which aspects of goods are covered by the Trade Descriptions Act. These are:-

• quantity, size or gauge, for example, 'twelve feet width'
• method of manufacture, production, processing or reconditioning, for example, 'handmade chocolates'
• composition, for example, 'made with butter'
• fitness for purpose, strength, performance, behaviour or accuracy, for example, 'will not break or chip'
• any other physical characteristics, for example, 'in very good condition'
• claims about testing by any person and the results of the tests, for example, 'the French Navy painted a ship with this paint and found no sign of rust after a year'
• statements which indicate approval by any person or conformity with a type approved by any person, for example,''Which?' best buy'
• statements about the place or date of manufacture, production, processing or reconditioning of the goods, for example, 'Italian knitwear'
• statements about who manufactured, produced, processed or reconditioned the goods, for example, 'Chanel no. 5'
• other history, including previous ownership, for example, 'one previous owner'.

Statements about the price of goods are not covered by the Trade Descriptions Act 1968, but are covered by other legislation

Provided the goods are supplied in the course of a business or trade, the Act covers free gifts, for example, free gifts offered with a service.

Sometimes it is not obvious when a trader is giving a false description of goods. For example, a second-hand car which shows low mileage may have had its milometer altered by the trader. This is an offence under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. It is also an offence under the Act to sell counterfeit goods, for example, jeans marked incorrectly with the name of a famous designer.

The legislation specifies which aspects of services are covered by the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. These are:-

• the provision of services, accommodation or facilities, for example, 'qualified nurse in attendance'
• the nature of any service, for example, 'heated indoor swimming pool'
• the time at which or manner in which or persons by whom any services are provided, for example, 'open until 8pm on Fridays'
• the examination, approval or evaluation by any person of any service, for example, 'recommended by NHBC' or 'a member of CORGI'
• the location or amenities of any accommodation, for example, 'pony riding available nearby'.

The following aspects of services were not held by the courts to be facilities or services and are not covered by the Trade Descriptions Act 1968:-

• a notice for a 'closing down' sale
• free gifts offered with a service
• a promise to refund the price if goods can be bought more cheaply elsewhere
• sales of houses. However, false descriptions about property are dealt with by the Property Misdescriptions Act 1991

A client may be able to make a civil claim for misrepresentation and may be in a stronger position to do this if the trader has been convicted of an offence under the Trade Descriptions Act 1968. Alternatively, the client may be able to take action for breach of contract if goods do not match their description and the transaction is covered by the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). However, in breach of contract cases, you should check whether the trader warned the client of the misdescription, for example, that the size on a label was wrong, or whether the goods were marked as 'seconds'. In these cases, the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended) does not apply.


So basically it is a criminal offence to miss sell Goods or Services by using false discriptions. For me the above would indicate that we have a bang to rights case against the Chairman and as a man who has worked years in retail I find it astonishing that Ridsdale didn't know this.


tony

he would have been well aware of the above but as usual rode roughshod over everybody.

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:50 am

Things are going from bad to worse :cry:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:57 am

yeah but at the end of the day we didnt sign anything and I for one didnt read the small print and Peter's get out clause lol , seriously tho if we damanded our money back the club wud fold and we dont want that ! :ayatollah:

Re: THE DAYS ARE GOING FAST TO FEBRUARY 10TH

Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:24 pm

come on pr your time is up.