Without Sam We Wouldn't Have A Championship Club?
Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:32 pm
Without Sam we would have had no debt, or not the same level as we have now. However, we also wouldn't have anything to show for the past decade or so, or many decades really, a decaying stadium, a shit team.
As it stands we do have a load of debt, but we do have things to show for it. Having a load of debt means you can spend on better facilities, spend on a new stadium and a team full of good players on good wages, and some bad ones on good wages, even an old fat scouser can come and do a jig to the treatment table for a twenty grand a week. Unfortunately when that's done on credit it's all very well, but it has to be paid back eventually.
Yes, thanks to Sam we do have a Championship side...we don't know whether or not we would have a Championship side by now without Sam, as we can never know what would have happened if Sam wasn't here, who would have come in. Someone had to come in. Kumar wasn't going to keep it. There has and always will be a number of teams in the lower leagues with the potential to be made something rather more valuable (if you either have the balls to rack up debts, or if you have the mad fortune that you'll spend spend spend on own resources.) CCFC had been courted a little, no real mentionable interest other than a crooked deal with Clive Sullivan and Sullivan's girlfriend. There were things to be made of Cardiff - one of the ones in the lower leagues who had dropped to the bottom of the ocean, a once big team, who served a large geographical area, and had local business and a fairly exciting city regenerating itself into the new millenium.
Sam had the balls to take this club into debt. He organised things crudley into a structure that we simply couldn't afford at the moment - as it was all done on credit, it wasn't done 100% well, it was ragged and in your face, a big spending small time club full of blubber and mortgaged to the hilt.
Local businesses sniffed the real estate potential and the chance to get their blues their own home. They saw a way to engineer a little push in the right way, especially as CCFC now had a businessman calling the shots, who didn't mind acting cold to one time employers. The council had changed, and headed up by Berman, they were not going to give the green light and hand over valuable land to CCFC while this foulmouthed hot head was in charge.
We now stand in a standard, affordable IKEA stadium, sharing a home with the local rugby team, with the club being wrestled amongst Sam, and Peter and some Mayalsians who are in line to make Peter a bit of cash out of his investment of all his hard time at Cardiff, Sam really hasn't got much say in things other than there's a debt to be paid with either a party of investors close to Sam, or Sam himself. Cardiff suggest they will have it agreed and both the club and PMG agree that they've structured it so Sam can't really ever pull the plug on CCFC. Sam disputes it all passionately and I'm sure he wants to believe he can one day rule the roost here. Or maybe he doesn't and he just wants his bloody money.
Whatever, it is, it is all better than it was when Sam took over the club. And it will carry on. The Mayalsians aren't ones with riches that they'll let go out of love. They'll be wanting things to go their way so they can make it a good investment earning more than they put into it, affording a game to be played in Mayalsia or two no doubt...same shit different decade...
As it stands we do have a load of debt, but we do have things to show for it. Having a load of debt means you can spend on better facilities, spend on a new stadium and a team full of good players on good wages, and some bad ones on good wages, even an old fat scouser can come and do a jig to the treatment table for a twenty grand a week. Unfortunately when that's done on credit it's all very well, but it has to be paid back eventually.
Yes, thanks to Sam we do have a Championship side...we don't know whether or not we would have a Championship side by now without Sam, as we can never know what would have happened if Sam wasn't here, who would have come in. Someone had to come in. Kumar wasn't going to keep it. There has and always will be a number of teams in the lower leagues with the potential to be made something rather more valuable (if you either have the balls to rack up debts, or if you have the mad fortune that you'll spend spend spend on own resources.) CCFC had been courted a little, no real mentionable interest other than a crooked deal with Clive Sullivan and Sullivan's girlfriend. There were things to be made of Cardiff - one of the ones in the lower leagues who had dropped to the bottom of the ocean, a once big team, who served a large geographical area, and had local business and a fairly exciting city regenerating itself into the new millenium.
Sam had the balls to take this club into debt. He organised things crudley into a structure that we simply couldn't afford at the moment - as it was all done on credit, it wasn't done 100% well, it was ragged and in your face, a big spending small time club full of blubber and mortgaged to the hilt.
Local businesses sniffed the real estate potential and the chance to get their blues their own home. They saw a way to engineer a little push in the right way, especially as CCFC now had a businessman calling the shots, who didn't mind acting cold to one time employers. The council had changed, and headed up by Berman, they were not going to give the green light and hand over valuable land to CCFC while this foulmouthed hot head was in charge.
We now stand in a standard, affordable IKEA stadium, sharing a home with the local rugby team, with the club being wrestled amongst Sam, and Peter and some Mayalsians who are in line to make Peter a bit of cash out of his investment of all his hard time at Cardiff, Sam really hasn't got much say in things other than there's a debt to be paid with either a party of investors close to Sam, or Sam himself. Cardiff suggest they will have it agreed and both the club and PMG agree that they've structured it so Sam can't really ever pull the plug on CCFC. Sam disputes it all passionately and I'm sure he wants to believe he can one day rule the roost here. Or maybe he doesn't and he just wants his bloody money.
Whatever, it is, it is all better than it was when Sam took over the club. And it will carry on. The Mayalsians aren't ones with riches that they'll let go out of love. They'll be wanting things to go their way so they can make it a good investment earning more than they put into it, affording a game to be played in Mayalsia or two no doubt...same shit different decade...
Last edited by gabbsthenewt on Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:37 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Without Sam We Wouldn't Have A Championship Club?
Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:37 pm
Good evening Gabbs, welcome, I will read this more tom and answer it, tired now.
Re: Without Sam We Wouldn't Have A Championship Club?
Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:44 am
Forever Blue wrote:Good evening Gabbs, welcome, I will read this more tom and answer it, tired now.
No worries Annis pleased to be here
Re: Without Sam We Wouldn't Have A Championship Club?
Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:17 am
Spot on mate thats how i also see it 