Can We Trust Steve Borley ?

i hope we can, i have heard him say many things to annis and now it is time for him to deliver. By the end of feb he said pr will be gone so lets hope he sticks to his word.

Really hope we can trust Steve Borley, hes been a City supporter for along time. Log on here hoping for good news, what else can we do.

In Steve Borley i trust, hope he does not let us down.

Maybe he can't, or feels he can't, speak out at the moment until this takeover is all sorted. It may, in the eyes of the Malaysians, make him look unprofessional

i dont think we can. i think mr borley loves his nice comfy seats in the directors box with christine on match days he is afraid to rattle any ones cages to jepordise this. borley loves all us idiots thinking he is the messiah

no no no he knew.

He always puts the club first so if he doesn't speak out it's in the best interests of the club. He's not let us down before and he won't in the future. If there's anyone we can trust, it's him.

i dont think we can. i think mr borley loves his nice comfy seats in the directors box with christine on match days he is afraid to rattle any ones cages to jepordise this. borley loves all us idiots thinking he is the messiah

yes u are correct in sayng that.

NO i dont think we can, if he comes on here and answers some of our questions to get some faith back for the supporters

I have heard fans saying yes, implicitly. But a burning question I ask is WHY stand by and watch the club go to ruins, why leave it until its seeminly to late, why is it that someone who loves the club so much, sat by and did nothing to protect the it. Is it that PR has that much power that no other board member knew what was happening, I doubt very much he has that power so again WHY.

Ive always respected Steve and probaly still do simply because he is a City fan, but the question is do I trust him and Im afraid to say no. I trust nobody on the board and that is a sad reality of Cardiff City Football Club.

This is a comment I made to a post yesterday which I think is relevant to this.

"I share your disgust at the whitewash the programme was too. I had my doubts initially about the programme, but when Keith said they had done a lot of impressive work for the programme, I expected so much more having been initially sceptical. Not sure if I'm misinterpreting your comments, apologies in advance if so, but if any criticism is aimed at Keith, that's way off the mark. He is certainly an esteemed contributor who I have no shame in saying is the best contributor on our finances, but his remit does not stretch to editing the content of BBC programmes as yet as far as I'm aware! Keith has documented the problems with our club for as long as I can remember in the most lucid ways possible, were it not for him, many of us would not be so aware of the problems we face.

I always try to keep up with certain posters comments, Keith especially, but I must have missed his predictions that you refer to. I'd welcome Keith's views on what lies ahead, if done so already, if someone could provide some links please? My personal opinion was and is that I would be amazed if anyone was prepared to invest in our club given it would cost £10-15m to buy the club, then within 12-18 months have to service debts of around £50m and not necessarily below that figure unless mass player sales happen in the meantime. Without a takeover, I fail to see how we can possibly get to the summer without administration. If by some miracle we do, then a mass exodus of players is our only hope of avoiding admin, but opens up the very real prospect of relegation in a notoriously difficult and competitive division. Relegation would be equally as catastrophic, if not more so.

My fear is that Ridsdale is showing remarkable tenacity to preserve his position, not for the benefit of CCFC of course, but purely himself. My thoughts on Ridsdale are well documented and nothing short of vitriolic, but what I find the ultimate insult is that he is showing more tenacity, guts and stomach for the fight than we have as a set of supporters who have allowed this to happen without so much as a murmur. This is also true of the much heralded Borley who has allowed this to happen despite being in a position to have done something about it but hasn’t. Guy's lack of interest is insulting and despicable, if only there was scope for it to hit him where it hurts, in the pocket, but that seems unlikely alas.

As stated before, to see Ridsdale abusing the club is bad enough, but such things happen in business/ football with greedy, self-important imbeciles in important positions putting themselves before anything else. To see someone like Borley stand by doing nothing is a little more hurtful, but the ultimate insult is that us the fans have allowed this to happen, with many still clearly believing Ridsdale is the Messiah and saviour of Cardiff City. Well he isn't the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy, but much as we can blame the aforementioned and especially Ridsdale for what seems our inevitable demise, by far the most hurtful is that we as fans continue to do nothing, either through ignorance as to the severity of our plight, or being misguided enough to believe Ridsdsale has the conscience to resign for his abundant and despicable failings."

So ultimately I don't think we should trust and less still respect Borley as he is a significant part of the problem. No excuse is legitimate for me. Either he is incompetent in not realising what was and is going on, or too spineless to do something about it. Despite that though, my wrath is aimed more with at us the fans for letting this happen.

I hope I can, I have put a lot of Faith in him, a lot of people are telling me not to Trust him lately. Lets See Next Wednesday.

This is a comment I made to a post yesterday which I think is relevant to this.

"I share your disgust at the whitewash the programme was too. I had my doubts initially about the programme, but when Keith said they had done a lot of impressive work for the programme, I expected so much more having been initially sceptical. Not sure if I'm misinterpreting your comments, apologies in advance if so, but if any criticism is aimed at Keith, that's way off the mark. He is certainly an esteemed contributor who I have no shame in saying is the best contributor on our finances, but his remit does not stretch to editing the content of BBC programmes as yet as far as I'm aware! Keith has documented the problems with our club for as long as I can remember in the most lucid ways possible, were it not for him, many of us would not be so aware of the problems we face.

I always try to keep up with certain posters comments, Keith especially, but I must have missed his predictions that you refer to. I'd welcome Keith's views on what lies ahead, if done so already, if someone could provide some links please? My personal opinion was and is that I would be amazed if anyone was prepared to invest in our club given it would cost £10-15m to buy the club, then within 12-18 months have to service debts of around £50m and not necessarily below that figure unless mass player sales happen in the meantime. Without a takeover, I fail to see how we can possibly get to the summer without administration. If by some miracle we do, then a mass exodus of players is our only hope of avoiding admin, but opens up the very real prospect of relegation in a notoriously difficult and competitive division. Relegation would be equally as catastrophic, if not more so.

My fear is that Ridsdale is showing remarkable tenacity to preserve his position, not for the benefit of CCFC of course, but purely himself. My thoughts on Ridsdale are well documented and nothing short of vitriolic, but what I find the ultimate insult is that he is showing more tenacity, guts and stomach for the fight than we have as a set of supporters who have allowed this to happen without so much as a murmur. This is also true of the much heralded Borley who has allowed this to happen despite being in a position to have done something about it but hasn’t. Guy's lack of interest is insulting and despicable, if only there was scope for it to hit him where it hurts, in the pocket, but that seems unlikely alas.

As stated before, to see Ridsdale abusing the club is bad enough, but such things happen in business/ football with greedy, self-important imbeciles in important positions putting themselves before anything else. To see someone like Borley stand by doing nothing is a little more hurtful, but the ultimate insult is that us the fans have allowed this to happen, with many still clearly believing Ridsdale is the Messiah and saviour of Cardiff City. Well he isn't the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy, but much as we can blame the aforementioned and especially Ridsdale for what seems our inevitable demise, by far the most hurtful is that we as fans continue to do nothing, either through ignorance as to the severity of our plight, or being misguided enough to believe Ridsdsale has the conscience to resign for his abundant and despicable failings."

So ultimately I don't think we should trust and less still respect Borley as he is a significant part of the problem. No excuse is legitimate for me. Either he is incompetent in not realising what was and is going on, or too spineless to do something about it. Despite that though, my wrath is aimed more with at us the fans for letting this happen.

Good post mucker, again it all leads back to WHY stand back and let the club that is proclaimed to be loved by SB be destroyed in the way it has done

I hope I can, I have put a lot of Faith in him, a lot of people are telling me not to Trust him lately. Lets See Next Wednesday.

But Annis, can you understand WHY he has sat by and done NOTHING to protect the club. You know for a fact if you had a place on the board you would speak out and do something before it got to this stage. Im just confused by Steve, I dont want to be as he is a fan like you and me. I just want to know why as in my eyes he and the rest of the board are as bad as PR for letting it happen.

I hope I can, I have put a lot of Faith in him, a lot of people are telling me not to Trust him lately. Lets See Next Wednesday.

But Annis, can you understand WHY he has sat by and done NOTHING to protect the club. You know for a fact if you had a place on the board you would speak out and do something before it got to this stage. Im just confused by Steve, I dont want to be as he is a fan like you and me. I just want to know why as in my eyes he and the rest of the board are as bad as PR for letting it happen.

I agree I would totally Speak out, but everyone is Different, I just hope Borley stands by us, but the signs I am getting lately are NOT GOOD.

The whole board will go down like a sinking ship, cos none of them could run a pissup in a brewery let alone a multi million pound turnover, f**k them all, i hope we go into admin and they all lose their money


Not once has any of them tried to reassure us fans, apart from pinnochio pete, and any thing he says is a lie


I got no trust in the board at all

I’m not sure on this one, although I guess it is easier for him to help the club whilst being on the inside as opposed to be frozen out by other board members.

I’m hoping that the reports of Guy and Hall joining the board are true, which will hopefully strengthen Steve’s position for him to act.

The thing that worries me is, that the deceiving c@nt Riddler is not acting like a man who knows he has days left at the club are numbered. Would you bother appearing on Week in Week out to defend yourself, if within the next 10 days you were going to get booted?

Time will tell I guess as the 24th is fast approaching.

Annis, what has now got you concerned?, Borley surely knows if he doesnt oust the riddler as has been intimated, all his integrity and good work over the years will be shot to pieces.

I hope I can, I have put a lot of Faith in him, a lot of people are telling me not to Trust him lately. Lets See Next Wednesday.

But Annis, can you understand WHY he has sat by and done NOTHING to protect the club. You know for a fact if you had a place on the board you would speak out and do something before it got to this stage. Im just confused by Steve, I dont want to be as he is a fan like you and me. I just want to know why as in my eyes he and the rest of the board are as bad as PR for letting it happen.

I agree I would totally Speak out, but everyone is Different, I just hope Borley stands by us, but the signs I am getting lately are NOT GOOD.

There we have it mate, its so frustrating and disheartening. I have never felt as low as this being a City fan and after assessing all our problems I honestly cant see any other but adminisration. It kills me mate, those bastards all of them have raped our club and are not worthy of trust.

I’m not sure on this one, although I guess it is easier for him to help the club whilst being on the inside as opposed to be frozen out by other board members.

I’m hoping that the reports of Guy and Hall joining the board are true, which will hopefully strengthen Steve’s position for him to act.

The thing that worries me is, that the deceiving c@nt Riddler is not acting like a man who knows he has days left at the club are numbered. Would you bother appearing on Week in Week out to defend yourself, if within the next 10 days you were going to get booted?

Time will tell I guess as the 24th is fast approaching.

Its simple mate, the rest of the rats are sticking by PR and the sinking ship. They are ALL involved up to their crooked necks.

admin is the only way to go imo

Surely there must be a case at CCS for them to be brought in and investigate.

admin is the only way to go imo

Remember this ( WE WILL BE IN ADMINISTRATION WITHIN SIX WEEKS ) Please believe me in this you heard it on this board first

its a forgone conclusion

admin is the only way to go imo

Remember this ( WE WILL BE IN ADMINISTRATION WITHIN SIX WEEKS ) Please believe me in this you heard it on this board first

Can you explain to me therefore why we are paying off the tax bill? If what you are saying is correct then there is no point whatsoever in doing so!

we have paid some of it, we probrably owe more now than the original amount, remember the 1 million they paid is just 2 months income tax

we have paid some of it, we probrably owe more now than the original amount, remember the 1 million they paid is just 2 months income tax

Sorry that doesn't answer the question.

Maybe he can't, or feels he can't, speak out at the moment until this takeover is all sorted. It may, in the eyes of the Malaysians, make him look unprofessional

- You must be the only one who still believes malaysians are taking over the club.....

Come on man - get a grip of yourself ffs.

admin is the only way to go imo

Remember this ( WE WILL BE IN ADMINISTRATION WITHIN SIX WEEKS ) Please believe me in this you heard it on this board first

Bullshit.

Just because Steve Borley has never gone public in slagging off Ridsdale doesn't mean he hasn't spoken out against him during board meetings only to be out voted by Riddlers mates.

The fact the numbers are begining to even up on the board with hopefully the addition of Guy and Hall to vote along side Borley, would indicate that SB has identified the problem and done something about it in a quite professional manner.