IN MY OPINION ANNIS WAS WRONG

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

If a man gives you his word he will back you, then you have no option but to take that man on his word.

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

Completely agree with you. I think there's several people on here who have taken things too far, without knowing the facts.

I'm still happy to trust Borley at the moment, and hope others realise that they may have been wrong in the heat of the moment

It's all about opinions mate, you are right and in my humble opinion Dreamlike, you are the one thats wrong on this matter.

This is all down to how the question was phrased and how it was answered.

If Annis asked the question of the whole board, all they had to say was, "I back the chairman". It's the added, suggested, sentence by Borley that is sticking in my throat.

The question needed a standard generic answer, we did not expect him to say he had no faith in PR but there was no need to belittle the perfectly legitimate question.

I think annis was correct in this situation and I very rarely agree with him


thats my opinion


I think something had to be done today other than just ask questions

if borley did not want to be put in that position he should have reframed from tell this board and annis things
that he had no intntion of backing up he had ample time to tell people that he would be put in a terrible position but he did the opposit and told people he would back them

a mans word should be his bond, borely gave annis his word and then let him down.....you dont do that !

I personally think Annis was spot on.

How else was he meant to do it?
A vote of no confidence is probably the most formal way of getting rid of Ridsdale, and Borley promised to back Annis from what i've read.

Annis got stabbed in the back.

Like Rhooster said, you can't give someone your word that you'll back them then disagree and belittle them.

Borley should have told Annis that he was going to back the Riddler, not let Annis speak out only to shoot him down in flames.

Borley let Annis down simple as.

As I've mentioned several times, we don't know what was said in private between Annis and Borley.

Let's be honest, a lot is said on this messageboard that may not turn out to be 100% correct. I mean that in general not to anybody in particular.

I agree that it was a good idea to have a vote of no confidence, but Borley was put on the spot and despite him maybe wanting Ridsdale to go it may not be the best thing to happen at the moment.
Borley also knew that he wouldn't have the backing of the rest of the board, so it wouldn't make much sense to put himself in that position when he's working on the Malaysian deal, and is allegedly going over there to sort it out.

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and your argument does have merit.

The trouble is Borley didn't give you an assurrance that he would back you and then change his mind leaving you high and dry. If that was his plan then he had ample oppotunity to tell Annis that rather than play him along and let him down at a crucial moment.

If you were Annis how would you feel?

Also it is my understanding that Annis asked the whole board not just Borley so that not exactly putting him 'on the spot'

Having heard all of this today I have great difficulty in putting my faith in someone who shit out when asked to make a difficult call

hang on lads, Borley couldnt not back Ridsdale really, if he did then he would have been removed from the board. I feel sorry for Annis that he was treated in this way but Borley had to be steadfast in his support. I firmly believe that things are moving in the background and that Steve Borley is playing Ridsdale lip service for a bit. Borley is a good man, and Annis is maybe sometimes a little over zealous due to his passion for the club. Thats not a stain on his character as Annis is without doubt the most passionate cardiff city fan I have ever met, but Borley will eventually lead this club out of this mess.

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

I, like you, was at the meeting today & I agree with you. The way Annis asked the question left Steve Borley with little option other than to back Ridsdale imo

I was speaking to SB after the meeting had finished & he is fully aware of the mistakes that have been made by the current board and also the precarious position we find ourselves in.

I've absolutely no doubts as to SB's commitment to the club and yes, his missus backed him up on that after he'd left as well

I don't blame Annis for giving it a go. Better to have a shot at it than sit there and see Ridsdale et al spin off the same old jargon. Saying that, I think the reaction to Borley's answer has been slightly extreme in some cases. The man isn't going to publicly slate the man who can remove him from the board. Borley knows Ridsdale is looking after his closest associates. Has Borley become one of them? I doubt it. It doesn't mean Borley's best option is to go full steam in.

Saying that, time is running out to get rid of Ridsdale. I don't think Borley has a decent option any more.

hang on lads, Borley couldnt not back Ridsdale really, if he did then he would have been removed from the board. I feel sorry for Annis that he was treated in this way but Borley had to be steadfast in his support. I firmly believe that things are moving in the background and that Steve Borley is playing Ridsdale lip service for a bit. Borley is a good man, and Annis is maybe sometimes a little over zealous due to his passion for the club. Thats not a stain on his character as Annis is without doubt the most passionate cardiff city fan I have ever met, but Borley will eventually lead this club out of this mess.

Hopefully certain members on here will realise they were wrong, and will eventually want to take back some of the things they've said about him.

One thing that has been grinding at me is this.

The reports from the meeting state that when Annis asked if Borley was giving Ridsdale his full support, Borley paused before answering.

As it has been stated, Borley couldn't say no because he would be removed from the board with immediate effect. So the fact he paused shows he was considering his answer and a part of him was probably even wondering if it was worth getting expelled from the board in order to combat Ridsdale.

A pause can say a lot.

hang on lads, Borley couldnt not back Ridsdale really, if he did then he would have been removed from the board. I feel sorry for Annis that he was treated in this way but Borley had to be steadfast in his support. I firmly believe that things are moving in the background and that Steve Borley is playing Ridsdale lip service for a bit. Borley is a good man, and Annis is maybe sometimes a little over zealous due to his passion for the club. Thats not a stain on his character as Annis is without doubt the most passionate cardiff city fan I have ever met, but Borley will eventually lead this club out of this mess.

Hopefully certain members on here will realise they were wrong, and will eventually want to take back some of the things they've said about him.

maybe they will, I hope so. People are still very angry and I would imagine that at the moment Annis feels completely betrayed. In the end I think we will know whats really happening. It has always bothered me that the club is always so cloak and dagger

But he could have just said Yes i support the Yorkshire Pudding ...hed didnt have to try and belittle Annis by asking him what he hoped to achieve did he.....Sorry my faith in Borley gone and pretty sure i wont regret anything ive posted today........

But he could have just said Yes i support the Yorkshire Pudding ...hed didnt have to try and belittle Annis by asking him what he hoped to achieve did he.....Sorry my faith in Borley gone and pretty sure i wont regret anything ive posted today........

I wasnt there but its true that he shouldnt have tried to beliitle Annis. Maybe its all part of the lip service. Petere Ridsdale must be on a very limited amount of borrowed time now (bit like the clubs overdraft)

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

He could of told Annis he cant support him before the EGM for reasons or a simple trust me. But he didnt he isnt giving us anything to go on . Roll on this demo.

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

Mike, I asked FOR GUYS, HALLS and BORLEYS SUPPORT as A SHARE HOLDER I AM ENTITLED TO ASK, Borley knew for 3 weeks I WAS GOING TO ASK .

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

AND YOU STANDING THERE HOLDING UP YOUR CARD

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion and your argument does have merit.

The trouble is Borley didn't give you an assurrance that he would back you and then change his mind leaving you high and dry. If that was his plan then he had ample oppotunity to tell Annis that rather than play him along and let him down at a crucial moment.

If you were Annis how would you feel?

Also it is my understanding that Annis asked the whole board not just Borley so that not exactly putting him 'on the spot'

Having heard all of this today I have great difficulty in putting my faith in someone who shit out when asked to make a difficult call

Correct Mike is only telling part of the story, I ASKED GUY, HALL and BORLEY TO BACK US.

It's all about opinions Annis but putting Borley on the spot like that was never gonna achieve anything. Regardless of what he tells you privately (and I'm sure he's as sick of Ridsdale as the rest of us) he's not going to commit public suicide. If he had said he didn't back Ridsdale, he would have had to resign himself (unless Guy and the rest of major shareholders backed his stance). If he'd done what you wanted him to do, the rest of them would have hung him out to dry and we'd have lost the only decent man and City fan on the current board.

Please, everyone, don't start an anti-Borley witchhunt. He's in an impossible position and I'm sure he's doing his best, not for himself but for the club we all love.

Let's not have another personal feud between us either, Annis. I know you want the best for the City 100% but I think you got it wrong today.

ALSO Mike I HAD TOLD BORLEY I WAS GOING TO DO IT.

hang on lads, Borley couldnt not back Ridsdale really, if he did then he would have been removed from the board. I feel sorry for Annis that he was treated in this way but Borley had to be steadfast in his support. I firmly believe that things are moving in the background and that Steve Borley is playing Ridsdale lip service for a bit. Borley is a good man, and Annis is maybe sometimes a little over zealous due to his passion for the club. Thats not a stain on his character as Annis is without doubt the most passionate cardiff city fan I have ever met, but Borley will eventually lead this club out of this mess.

Hopefully certain members on here will realise they were wrong, and will eventually want to take back some of the things they've said about him.

why are they wrong? just because they don't hold the same opinion as you or others, i would rather someone tell me nothing than tell me things just to make themselves popular to the masses. ANNIS i trust you fully and i believe that you have been used by Borely. am i wrong too CF11.

hang on lads, Borley couldnt not back Ridsdale really, if he did then he would have been removed from the board. I feel sorry for Annis that he was treated in this way but Borley had to be steadfast in his support. I firmly believe that things are moving in the background and that Steve Borley is playing Ridsdale lip service for a bit. Borley is a good man, and Annis is maybe sometimes a little over zealous due to his passion for the club. Thats not a stain on his character as Annis is without doubt the most passionate cardiff city fan I have ever met, but Borley will eventually lead this club out of this mess.

Hopefully certain members on here will realise they were wrong, and will eventually want to take back some of the things they've said about him.

why are they wrong? just because they don't hold the same opinion as you or others, i would rather someone tell me nothing than tell me things just to make themselves popular to the masses. ANNIS i trust you fully and i believe that you have been used by Borely. am i wrong too CF11.

Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

What I meant was that hopefully people will get the chance to realise they are wrong if Borley leads us out of this mess ( the post I quoted )

If Borley can help negotiate the Malaysians investment/takeover, hopefully people will change their minds
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Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

What I meant was that hopefully people will get the chance to realise they are wrong if Borley leads us out of this mess ( the post I quoted )

If Borley can help negotiate the Malaysians investment/takeover, hopefully people will change their minds
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Even if Borley does save the day by bringing the Malaysians on board he was still WRONG to stab Annis in the back the way he did.

I can have no respect whatsoever for conduct like that no matter what an individual brings to the table.

Sorry I didn't make myself clear.

What I meant was that hopefully people will get the chance to realise they are wrong if Borley leads us out of this mess ( the post I quoted )

If Borley can help negotiate the Malaysians investment/takeover, hopefully people will change their minds
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Even if Borley does save the day by bringing the Malaysians on board he was still WRONG to stab Annis in the back the way he did.

I can have no respect whatsoever for conduct like that no matter what an individual brings to the table.

It's still not clear that was said/understood between the two of them.

Borley was aware that Annis would call for a vote of no confidence,

Annis knows Borley would like to get rid of Ridsdale

But, as a few others have mentioned there's a big difference between wanting someone to leave and backing the vote of no confidence. Borley knew even if he did back it, he would be outnumbered anyway. Where would that leave him with regards to the board?