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I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:09 pm

sorry lads,you'll be surprised how big the silent majority is.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:14 pm

Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:15 pm

stickywicket wrote:sorry lads,you'll be surprised how big the silent majority is.

tthat is there choice just like it mine to march i just can not sit back when we got a board who lied
to us and take are support for granted.
they have taken the piss long enough debt sfter debt is piling up and no one from the board is tackling it they are just
seeing what they can strip before we go bust

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:19 pm

davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.

if you think we are doing the march to get one over on the board you are in cloud cuckoo land were are doing it bcus we do not like being lied to and taken for fools and i have supported city for 35 years so please dont tell me that i think more of demo than support the team

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:20 pm

davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.


Do you honestly think that a march before kick off is going to make that bunch of gutless overpaid prima donnas play any worse than they did against Barnsley and Preston?

If so then we really are in the shit.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:23 pm

How desperate is PR to get his paid staff posting on here to try and stop the protest juggernaut. allegedly. It's going to happen, it's going to be massive, no amount of spin or PR bullshit will make it go away, chose your side and chose wisely.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:24 pm

stickywicket wrote:sorry lads,you'll be surprised how big the silent majority is.



the silent majority may wish the weren't so silent when they dont have a club to support.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:33 pm

BigGwynram wrote:How desperate is PR to get his paid staff posting on here to try and stop the protest juggernaut. allegedly. It's going to happen, it's going to be massive, no amount of spin or PR bullshit will make it go away, chose your side and chose wisely.

I don't work for the club. I just think people are losing touch with reality.
Some of our fans constantly slag the team off. Think about it we are up against teams who have had the drop money. Next season it will be 16 million.
Yes we were conned. I won't be conned again.
If we get rid of the board of directors do you really believe there’s a white knight coming to our rescue?
Jimmy Andrews was right "Cardiff City are a small club in a big stadium” get used to it I have
.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:44 pm

Me work for the club why do you think that Big Gwyn? Just because I don’t think like you.
I have supported the City since me beat Man U 3-0 in the old first division. So like a lot of other fans I’ve seen some dark times.
Perhaps we should be trying to get the board of directors to have a new share issue at say 10p a share.
That way we’d find out if there really are investors out there. I’ve got my doubts.
It would be the fans putting there hands in their pocket again.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:13 am

That is fine, others do see a point ,we are all Cardiff fans and our club looks like its heading for administration unless urgent investment is found...We have had so many false dawns but the new stadium being built and not solving but adding to our problems is the final straw for many of us.

If you want to join us then great the more the merrier, if you want to stay away then fine...we will all be together supporting the players inside the stadium.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:27 am

[quote="corky"]That is fine, others do see a point ,we are all Cardiff fans and our club looks like its heading for administration unless urgent investment is found...We have had so many false dawns but the new stadium being built and not solving but adding to our problems is the final straw for many of us.

If you want to join us then great the more the merrier, if you want to stay away then fine...we will all be together supporting the players inside the stadium.[/quote!]

We have been sold down the river and are about to enter the estuary of administration. Gutting but id rather take the point's deduction now than start next season -10 or -15.

Thats reality , I couldnt give a damn of who is running the club as long as it is being run within it's mean's, can you say we are running to break even? can you say were going to make a small loss? No you cannot we cant even pay the catering company....wake up! it may be your actions that make a difference. STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!!!

Long live CCFC

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:59 am

stickywicket wrote:sorry lads,you'll be surprised how big the silent majority is.


I respect your opinion, listen Say 800 turn up and the crowd is announced as 18,900,(but really will be about 16,000) you could say its a bad turn out, BUT YOUR WRONG, Because if we lost the next 5 games, the actual real attendance would be about 13,000, yet we would still get our 800.
The prob with most football fans, they dont protest/moan, they just dont bother to come back till their team is winning.

I WILL BE THERE :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:01 am

davdil wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:How desperate is PR to get his paid staff posting on here to try and stop the protest juggernaut. allegedly. It's going to happen, it's going to be massive, no amount of spin or PR bullshit will make it go away, chose your side and chose wisely.

I don't work for the club. I just think people are losing touch with reality.
Some of our fans constantly slag the team off. Think about it we are up against teams who have had the drop money. Next season it will be 16 million.
Yes we were conned. I won't be conned again.
If we get rid of the board of directors do you really believe there’s a white knight coming to our rescue?
Jimmy Andrews was right "Cardiff City are a small club in a big stadium” get used to it I have
.


We havent been causing the team to play badly, we havent been robbing the club, were just fans who want our say and care about our Club.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:04 am

I must say, the protest is 7 or 8 years too late. We should have put a stop to this when we were signing dross for crazy money - and money that we didn't have! We are as much to blame for this mess as Hamman/Ridsdale

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:17 am

In my Opinion its Better than Sitting Back and Doing Nothing :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:45 am

all the fans protesting are doing it for the love of their club, not to get one over on anyone, but the media attention will help in showing what has/is happening to our club :ayatollah:

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:12 am

bluebirdbaz wrote:all the fans protesting are doing it for the love of their club, not to get one over on anyone, but the media attention will help in showing what has/is happening to our club :ayatollah:


Correct Baz :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:49 am

davdil wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:How desperate is PR to get his paid staff posting on here to try and stop the protest juggernaut. allegedly. It's going to happen, it's going to be massive, no amount of spin or PR bullshit will make it go away, chose your side and chose wisely.

I don't work for the club. I just think people are losing touch with reality.
Some of our fans constantly slag the team off. Think about it we are up against teams who have had the drop money. Next season it will be 16 million.
Yes we were conned. I won't be conned again.
If we get rid of the board of directors do you really believe there’s a white knight coming to our rescue?
Jimmy Andrews was right "Cardiff City are a small club in a big stadium” get used to it I have
.


You seem to think this demo has something to do with on the pitch perfomrnaces when it isn't. Your Reference about people constantly slagging the team off has no business being in a thread about the portest, this week you will see numerous press reports and interviews in relation to the demo and in not one will you see the team being slagged off. Hell we are in a play off position.

The gripe here is, and given we are in a play off spot that by end of March we may very well be in adminstration facing a points deduction this season or worst next season depending on the date.White Knight aside we see a board taking huge salarys whilst suppliers/subcontractors and the Tax Man go unpaid,and winding up petitions becoming all to "normal" now against our club.

Our chairmen takes £100,000 bonus on top of his £800k salary whilst the Tax man issues a winding up petition against us, and some fans are happy to accept that as ok? And what about the rest of the board who allowed this to happen?? who sat and watched as numerous companys went unpaid but took their salarys as priority.

As said this isnt about the team or the curent poor form this is about the aybismal financial mismanagement of our club and a board that don't seem to be addressing the problems but are all too willing to gamble on future monies (bit like Leeds utd). Next Seasons ticket money spent on last years Tax Bill, what happens next year? Let those fans that want to remain silent do do, that is there choice but if you are going to criticse the demo make sure you have the facts right.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:49 am

stickywicket wrote:sorry lads,you'll be surprised how big the silent majority is.


If you doubt the worth of past or future demo's, read this extract from the EGM

"Alan Flitcroft stated that he wasn’t going to attempt to kid anyone and confessed that of course he had known when the season ticket campaign was launched that the club owed HMRC a significant amount of money. He said the messages the club was putting out about backing manager Dave Jones during the January transfer window were based on commitments that had been given to the board by potential investors. As those commitments were not honoured, the board couldn’t spend the season ticket money as they had wanted to. He admitted he was embarrassed by the situation and apologised to the shareholders for it."

That is a hell of a climb down from previous statements. The board were no longer going to attempt to 'kid anyone' and they were totally 'embarrassed' by the situation.

Not to mention Alan Flitcroft is now playing a more prominant part when speaking on behalf of the board, which partly at least has side lined Ridsdale.

Admittedly it is only a small advancement, but one all the same and I don't deminish the link between that statement and the previous issues raised at the Doncaster and WBA demos.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:53 am

davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.


May be the first people you should direct that comment at is Dave Jones, Peter Ridsdale and Michael Chopra. According to the press they have had a few 'off field' problems this week which must have affected the team.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:59 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.


May be the first people you should direct that comment at is Dave Jones, Peter Ridsdale and Michael Chopra. According to the press they have had a few 'off field' problems this week which must have affected the team.


Chops arrested on the piss, McCormack done for drink driving, dj and Riddler fighting each other, DJ swearing at a local Journalist.Winding up petitions.

Yet us who are involved in the demo are causing the problems.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:12 am

davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.


if Boro get 3 points then its down to fact theyve got a strong team including 5 or 6 players signed during the transfer window where as our team is threadbare and injury struck ! And we all know the reasons why , I paid out £400 in Dec to help fund new signings , Boro didnt appeal for money !!

So Ridsdale and the board " where has my money gone ? " :ayatollah:

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:45 am

Martyn1963 wrote:
davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.


if Boro get 3 points then its down to fact theyve got a strong team including 5 or 6 players signed during the transfer window where as our team is threadbare and injury struck ! And we all know the reasons why , I paid out £400 in Dec to help fund new signings , Boro didnt appeal for money !!

So Ridsdale and the board " where has my money gone ? " :ayatollah:


Hate to be annoying but Middlesbrough did have a half season ticket promotion aimed at the January window. There deal was if they won all 5 games during January the board would refund their cash, or something like.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:52 am

Forever Blue wrote:In my Opinion its Better than Sitting Back and Doing Nothing :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Too dam right it is. I think a demo will achieve little in regards to its aim and that is to see the removal of the board. However I want the whole world to know that the fans are not happy with the board and I cannot think of a better way to get that message across than demonstrating. Thats way I will be demonstrating.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:58 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:In my Opinion its Better than Sitting Back and Doing Nothing :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Too dam right it is. I think a demo will achieve little in regards to its aim and that is to see the removal of the board. However I want the whole world to know that the fans are not happy with the board and I cannot think of a better way to get that message across than demonstrating. Thats way I will be demonstrating.


IMO there are several aims for the march depending on our own personal grievance. My aim is to show my utter disgust at the amateurish way the club is being run.

Therefore even if I marched alone I would consider the demo a success.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:06 am

stickywicket wrote:sorry lads,you'll be surprised how big the silent majority is.


'To sin by silence, when we should protest, makes cowards of men'.

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:09 am

we all want to show our discust and want to march etc, but what will it say/do to the people in the club? nothing really, they'll just come to the window and laugh then everyone goes into the ground and takes thier seat

hit it where it hurts, stay outside for games!!! untill half the staium is outside :ayatollah: or mass pitch invaisons

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:47 am

davids wrote:
davdil wrote:Just as well give the 3points to Midlesborough.Any one who thinks what goes on off the field doesn't affect what goes on it is a idiot.
But there again I feel Some fans care more about getting one over on the board than supporting the team.


Do you honestly think that a march before kick off is going to make that bunch of gutless overpaid prima donnas play any worse than they did against Barnsley and Preston?

If so then we really are in the shit.

come on then,what would you do?

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:03 pm

f**k the silent majority.

See how f*cking silent they are when admin approaches, eh?

Still, they got to watch us in a cup final before we slumped down the divs, eh?

Re: I don't see the point of the protest

Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:28 pm

i have just scaaned through this.... i dont no who is for it, and against it and it doesnt bother me to be fair , everyone is entitled to there opinion, but i for one will be first there making my point.

but just a quickie to anyone who feels protests will have an adverse effect on the players.....DID ANYONE WATCH THE CARLING CUP FINAL atleast 3 times i heard chants of ''GLAZIER OUT''.
that was inside the ground and no one was moaning about it effecting the team. if they did they were hugely out numberd because the sound generated from the chant was great.

but..............

we arent doing this, we are simply walking down the road, with a few banners, singing a few songs. MAKING OUR POINT PEACEFULLY. players will be in the changing rooms getting instructions and tactics from DJ i mean PR.
imo anyone who feels it will badly effect the team. WE ARE RESPECTING THE PLAYERS BY SUPPORTING THEM INSIDE THE GROUND, i have a season ticket and have also been to most aways, no one has turned on the team.....
BUT ITS ABOUT TIME WE HAD A LITTLE PRIDE AND PASSION IN RETURN FROM THEM.........