THE TRUST MEETING LAST NIGHT

Statement on Behalf of the Board of the Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust

The board of the Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust understands and shares the frustration that many Bluebirds fans are feeling as a result of the club’s current predicament. Our beloved football club appears to be in a precarious position with a High Court appearance scheduled for next week, various bills remaining unpaid and sources of future income seemingly already exhausted.

We are aware that some of our members will be taking part in Saturday’s planned protest march from Canton to the Cardiff City Stadium. Although the Supporters’ Trust has not been involved in the organisation of this event, we recognise the fans’ right to protest peacefully.

Meanwhile, the Trust’s board are requesting an urgent meeting with Bluebirds officials in order to discuss the current situation and seek assurances about the club’s financial stability in the short, medium and long term.

Paul Corkrey
Chairman

Whilst the Trust could have been more supportive at least they recongise the right to protest. TBH the Trusts support is becoming a bit of a distraction now. Let them meet with the club, whilst we get on with our march.

As i expected.

Tony, I think you will find most of them Support the March, its just My old friend TLG doesnt back it,But I respect his Opinion.

I suppose every organisation has a problem at the top table, the club has Ridsdale the Trust has TL....Oh never mind

Believe it or not TLG is and Myself are Friends, But we just have TOTALLY DIFFERENT OPINIONS.

I wish the trust every success in their proposed meeting, but if the Directors wouldn't even give those answers to the share holders, I don't hold out much hope for them divulging the info to the trust, but who knows.

I wish the trust every success in their proposed meeting, but if the Directors wouldn't even give those answers to the share holders, I don't hold out much hope for them divulging the info to the trust, but who knows.

The problem is what difference does it make? Ridsdale has shown time and time again that he will lie his way out of any situation, I really can't understand why anyone now, puts any importance to his statements. He is on record time and time again telling porkies, and it still doesn't stop him, so whatever he tells the TRUST or us suporters is completely irrelevant in my opinion.

I wish the trust every success in their proposed meeting, but if the Directors wouldn't even give those answers to the share holders, I don't hold out much hope for them divulging the info to the trust, but who knows.

The problem is what difference does it make? Ridsdale has shown time and time again that he will lie his way out of any situation, I really can't understand why anyone now, puts any importance to his statements. He is on record time and time again telling porkies, and it still doesn't stop him, so whatever he tells the TRUST or us suporters is completely irrelevant in my opinion.

Exactly, To be honest I can't understand anyone wanting to meet him.......it'll be a spin or a bare faced lie.

What worries me is...... if the ST (as an organisation) distance themselves from fans then it's going to bounce back and bite them on the arse.Yes I am a member of the Trust and I want the TRUST to row in behind the March...... even if it achieves nothing ....fans try.

This board treats the fans with contempt......PR has ruined several clubs.....it aint f*cking rocket science.

The problem is what difference does it make? Ridsdale has shown time and time again that he will lie his way out of any situation, I really can't understand why anyone now, puts any importance to his statements. He is on record time and time again telling porkies, and it still doesn't stop him, so whatever he tells the TRUST or us suporters is completely irrelevant in my opinion.

My initial instinct is to agree fully with your viewpoint.

However, it does occur to me that is the exact same thinking as those who claim demos won't achieve anything.

Therefore I wish to quote the Trust’s position on demos by recognising their right to seek an urgent meeting with the club to clarify the short medium and long term bullshit the club has readied for us.

The problem is what difference does it make? Ridsdale has shown time and time again that he will lie his way out of any situation, I really can't understand why anyone now, puts any importance to his statements. He is on record time and time again telling porkies, and it still doesn't stop him, so whatever he tells the TRUST or us suporters is completely irrelevant in my opinion.

My initial instinct is to agree fully with your viewpoint.

However, it does occur to me that is the exact same thinking as those who claim demos won't achieve anything.

Therefore I wish to quote the Trust’s position on demos by recognising their right to seek an urgent meeting with the club to clarify the short medium and long term bullshit the club has readied for us.

Im not sure whether this one march will achieve anything in terms of removing Ridsdale, but it will allow the supporters to voice their discontent on how the club is being run. It will record it and gain larger exposure and maybe more people will ask difficult questions of the board. It will certainly create publicity for the views of the ordinary supporter, to me that's as much as can be expected to be achieved from the march.

The problem is what difference does it make? Ridsdale has shown time and time again that he will lie his way out of any situation, I really can't understand why anyone now, puts any importance to his statements. He is on record time and time again telling porkies, and it still doesn't stop him, so whatever he tells the TRUST or us suporters is completely irrelevant in my opinion.

My initial instinct is to agree fully with your viewpoint.

However, it does occur to me that is the exact same thinking as those who claim demos won't achieve anything.

Therefore I wish to quote the Trust’s position on demos by recognising their right to seek an urgent meeting with the club to clarify the short medium and long term bullshit the club has readied for us.

Im not sure whether this one march will achieve anything in terms of removing Ridsdale, but it will allow the supporters to voice their discontent on how the club is being run. It will record it and gain larger exposure and maybe more people will ask difficult questions of the board. It will certainly create publicity for the views of the ordinary supporter, to me that's as much as can be expected to be achieved from the march.

Totally agree mate I was just taking the piss out of the Trust 'urgent letter' response.

Totally agree mate I was just taking the piss out of the Trust 'urgent letter' response.

You can take the piss to your heart's content, Tony. But answer me this:

According to the adverts in the newpapers, one of the stated aims of aims of Saturday's march is to get answers. How is anyone going to get answers if they don't meet with the board and ask questions?

Totally agree mate I was just taking the piss out of the Trust 'urgent letter' response.

You can take the piss to your heart's content, Tony. But answer me this:

According to the adverts in the newpapers, one of the stated aims of aims of Saturday's march is to get answers. How is anyone going to get answers if they don't meet with the board and ask questions?

you still on your crusade to put this demo down i see.

The trust is too far up it's own arse that it cannot smell the shit.

We all need to join and change it's view.

you still on your crusade to put this demo down i see.

Dear me, you are so precious it's untrue. Why are you so bothered by an alternative opinion?

I'm not putting the demo down. I'm responding to Tony, who was taking the piss out of the Trust's efforts.

The trust is too far up it's own arse that it cannot smell the shit.

We all need to join and change it's view.

it just seems to me that (and this is personally speaking for myself) I have never shot down the Trust or it's aims, I wouldnt as at the end of the day it's Cardiff City Fans trying to make a difference for the football club and the supporters, but there seems to be an overwhelming need to question the demo and whats its aims are, rather than just accepting it's individuals choice to vent their nager via the protest march.
At the end of the day the demo is (ike the trust made up of City fans trying to make a statement to our board about the running of the club. Why question its aims and what it will acheive time and time again.Poeple have made their choice by now, everyone knows the march is going ahead, and everyone has diferent reasons for them being there or not being there, leave it at that.

you still on your crusade to put this demo down i see.

Dear me, you are so precious it's untrue. Why are you so bothered by an alternative opinion?

I'm not putting the demo down. I'm responding to Tony, who was taking the piss out of the Trust's efforts.

thats your opinion, if you feel the club is run well, and you hav no reason to demo, then enjoy your cup of tea before the game, and allow us to do what we feel right, from what i can see you have never had anything positive to say about it, and thats your opinion.

you still on your crusade to put this demo down i see.

Dear me, you are so precious it's untrue. Why are you so bothered by an alternative opinion?

I'm not putting the demo down. I'm responding to Tony, who was taking the piss out of the Trust's efforts.

TLG time is precious I am not but lets not get personal now, that aside you have constantly questioned the aim of the march, you did most of last night, you have made it abundauntly clear you are not for the demo, but this constant what are the aims gets tiresome.

TLG time is precious I am not but lets not get personal now, that aside you have constantly questioned the aim of the march, you did most of last night, you have made it abundauntly clear you are not for the demo, but this constant what are the aims gets tiresome.

Is there anything wrong with questioning the aims of an event such as this? To me, they seem very indistinct, which is the main reason I won't be joining the march. I'm sure others feel likewise.

Last night I spent almost all of the evening in a Trust meeting, so I'm not sure what you mean in that respect.

it just seems to me that (and this is personally speaking for myself) I have never shot down the Trust or it's aims, I wouldnt as at the end of the day it's Cardiff City Fans trying to make a difference for the football club and the supporters, but there seems to be an overwhelming need to question the demo and whats its aims are, rather than just accepting it's individuals choice to vent their nager via the protest march.
At the end of the day the demo is (ike the trust made up of City fans trying to make a statement to our board about the running of the club. Why question its aims and what it will acheive time and time again.Poeple have made their choice by now, everyone knows the march is going ahead, and everyone has diferent reasons for them being there or not being there, leave it at that.

Yep I agree, it is an option for fans to take the opportunity to make a point and hopefully the march will ensure that the club fully understands the feelings that the fans have. I hope as many people as possible turn up and its peaceful.

After the march on Saturday we cannot then go into limbo, we have to continue to strive to ensure that EGM, the demonstrations, the march have all been worthwhile efforts by the fans. I do not know if anymore direct action is planned in the future or what form it will take but I do know that the Trust has a constitutional obligation to its members to have regular meetings with the football club... The Trust is a democratic organization and the Trust will always consult with the members(by e-newsletter) before each meeting with the Club
All meetings with the Club will be transparent and you will know what your representatives discussed and the agreed actions that were decided.

If members think the Trust should not meet with the football club they will have to put a resolution forward to the AGM which is held in May this year.

Corky, Can all members receive a newsletter in e mail within 24 hours with the question .....should the TRUST officially back the march? asking YES/NO?

Surely you'd get an indicator from that.

One last thing and I will be off line for a few days then so can't reply...We all need to stick together, this is not fans against fans....its fans trying to get the owners of the club to look after and run it properly whilst their in charge.

DIVIDE AND CONQUER comes to mind....why are fans arguing amonst themselves whilst the club is crumbling? FFS we will get nowhere trying to outwit each other.

One last thing and I will be off line for a few days then so can't reply...We all need to stick together, this is not fans against fans....its fans trying to get the owners of the club to look after and run it properly whilst their in charge.

DIVIDE AND CONQUER comes to mind....why are fans arguing amonst themselves whilst the club is crumbling? FFS we will get nowhere trying to outwit each other.

Absolutely Corky, absolutely 110 per cent

TLG time is precious I am not but lets not get personal now, that aside you have constantly questioned the aim of the march, you did most of last night, you have made it abundauntly clear you are not for the demo, but this constant what are the aims gets tiresome.

Is there anything wrong with questioning the aims of an event such as this? To me, they seem very indistinct, which is the main reason I won't be joining the march. I'm sure others feel likewise.

Last night I spent almost all of the evening in a Trust meeting, so I'm not sure what you mean in that respect.

What have the trust achieved so far apart from statue appeals?

What have the trust achieved so far apart from statue appeals?

Saturday night: 15 abusive telephone calls, 12 abusive text messages.

Totally agree mate I was just taking the piss out of the Trust 'urgent letter' response.

You can take the piss to your heart's content, Tony. But answer me this:

According to the adverts in the newpapers, one of the stated aims of aims of Saturday's march is to get answers. How is anyone going to get answers if they don't meet with the board and ask questions?

OK taking the piss was a bit strong sorry for that.

However, the board were quizzed less than 7 days ago on the very same matter which produced very little in clarification. The conclusion has to be that asking straight direct questions alone doesn't seem to work either.

That said the demonstrators or the trust shouldn't give up its not an either or situation, pressing the board through official requests for information hand in hand with demostrations is the way to go IMO.

What have the trust achieved so far apart from statue appeals?

Saturday night: 15 abusive telephone calls, 12 abusive text messages.

Leave Peter alone, personal abuse should not be the action of the trust.

You though have not answered a single simple question, what has the trust you formed achieved actually ? As the spokesman i look forward to your answers?

Totally agree mate I was just taking the piss out of the Trust 'urgent letter' response.

You can take the piss to your heart's content, Tony. But answer me this:

According to the adverts in the newpapers, one of the stated aims of aims of Saturday's march is to get answers. How is anyone going to get answers if they don't meet with the board and ask questions?

OK taking the piss was a bit strong sorry for that.

However, the board were quizzed less than 7 days ago on the very same matter which produced very little in clarification. The conclusion has to be that asking straight direct questions alone doesn't seem to work either.

That said the demonstrators or the trust shouldn't give up its not an either or situation, pressing the board through official requests for information hand in hand with demostrations is the way to go IMO.

I'd say the bigger collateral aim of the march is the massive publicity - something the Trust have failed to garner. There are plenty of media peeps who aren't PR's biggest fans - this gives them something juicy to build good stories on - the "Ridders being run out of another club" angle.

Getting answers? Not going to happen, especially by sit down meetings. If questions were deflected / given mediocre answers at an EGM...

You can take the piss to your heart's content, Tony. But answer me this:

According to the adverts in the newpapers, one of the stated aims of aims of Saturday's march is to get answers. How is anyone going to get answers if they don't meet with the board and ask questions?

OK taking the piss was a bit strong sorry for that.

However, the board were quizzed less than 7 days ago on the very same matter which produced very little in clarification. The conclusion has to be that asking straight direct questions alone doesn't seem to work either.

That said the demonstrators or the trust shouldn't give up its not an either or situation, pressing the board through official requests for information hand in hand with demostrations is the way to go IMO.

I'd say the bigger collateral aim of the march is the massive publicity - something the Trust have failed to garner. There are plenty of media peeps who aren't PR's biggest fans - this gives them something juicy to build good stories on - the "Ridders being run out of another club" angle.

Getting answers? Not going to happen, especially by sit down meetings. If questions were deflected / given mediocre answers at an EGM...

Fair comment but I would never tell TLG to give up.

Fair comment but I would never tell TLG to give up.

Don't think anybody would have any success if they asked him too. tbh.

Both approaches really need to be made to cause pressure on multiple fronts - just seemed the attempt to force an EGM was a case of putting all the eggs in one basket.