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MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:57 pm

Here we go........

First of all I was told the March wanted answers to questions....... this has proved to be incorrect as numerous others think it pointless to ask PR questions. Fair enough.

A lot of people have slagged the TRUST cos they cant ask questions or get answers ( though stating questions are pointless according to critics)

im beginning to think that some fans are getting carried away with this March.......people power etc. erm ok

I thik some are getting carried away with SKY, Radio, Echo, BBC etc......the same media that most of you point the finger at for giving us terrible press........ how things change eh? When he's gone lads who are the press going to point the finger at then? FFS lads you cant even agree over the TRUST.......you even distrust each other!

Because I asked a few questions a few weeks ago I was accused of being a fan of PR.......couldnt be further from the truth.

If the Malaysians pull out it will be spin......... if they come on board you'll claim People power won .

I did say yesterday I can change my mind daily.......and I do.

Any of you that think the March will achieve anything other than getting PR aimed out you are deluding yourselves....... remember once he goes.....and Im sure he will .........who shall we blame then?

I cant believe SB is going to Malaysia for the fun of it........... He's put more money into the club than anyone of us.

Before I get flak....... who states a director is a bollox and im done with him.....and 2 days later states I was taslking to so and so again and he says etc. etc.

If some of our fans are the answer Id love to know what the f**k the question is?

But hey....its all opinion right?

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:06 pm

What do you mean?

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:07 pm

All opinions. I've argued the toss over this enough in the last few weeks and anybody who can't see the truth now is likely never to do so.

So tomorrow my advice to you and others with your viewpoint is do as you would normally before a game, then just go to straight to the ground and sing your heart out for the lads for 90 minutes! :ayatollah:

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:29 pm

Still people trying to talk tomorrow's march down :roll:

Leave them to their 'opinions' I suppose. We've heard them enough over the last few months

LOUD AND PROUD EVERYONE ELSE.

AT LEAST WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE OURSELVES HEARD

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:36 pm

seriously< 11pm the night before the march your still debating it???

Its happening. You have your choice not to go but its happening lets stop the constant debate and sniping.

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:45 pm

The Rhooster wrote:seriously< 11pm the night before the march your still debating it???

Its happening. You have your choice not to go but its happening lets stop the constant debate and sniping.


Debate? ....and if someone disagrees its sniping?

I think because its gone so far a lot of people cant see beyond the tv cameras and interviews.

Lets see if 2k turn up......i hope so.

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:50 pm

ianfens wrote:
The Rhooster wrote:seriously< 11pm the night before the march your still debating it???

Its happening. You have your choice not to go but its happening lets stop the constant debate and sniping.


Debate? ....and if someone disagrees its sniping?

I think because its gone so far a lot of people cant see beyond the tv cameras and interviews.

Lets see if 2k turn up......i hope so.



seriously what would be the point of debating 11pm the night before?

and id go as far as to say some of the points you made were little snipes about the demo yes.

the tv cameras and interviews statement youve out there makes a lot of assumptions about people.

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:55 pm

The Rhooster wrote:
ianfens wrote:
The Rhooster wrote:seriously< 11pm the night before the march your still debating it???

Its happening. You have your choice not to go but its happening lets stop the constant debate and sniping.


Debate? ....and if someone disagrees its sniping?

I think because its gone so far a lot of people cant see beyond the tv cameras and interviews.

Lets see if 2k turn up......i hope so.



seriously what would be the point of debating 11pm the night before?

and id go as far as to say some of the points you made were little snipes about the demo yes.

the tv cameras and interviews statement youve out there makes a lot of assumptions about people.



Id have loved to see a couple of fans take PR up on a meeting tomorrow morning......... of course we know it all and we have no questions..........meanwhile we''ll slag the TRUST cos they cant organise a meeting to ask questions.

It appears to me no one can see beyond a March and a camera........seems logical to me.

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:57 pm

The question is does Peter Ridsdale deserve to sit in the chairman seat at the CCS. Answer - does he f**k :lol:

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:59 pm

I'll take the fucker up on a meeting right now. I will bring my lappy with me full of the cunts lies on my database :lol:

Re: MY OPINION

Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:59 pm

ianfens wrote:Here we go........

First of all I was told the March wanted answers to questions....... this has proved to be incorrect as numerous others think it pointless to ask PR questions. Fair enough.

A lot of people have slagged the TRUST cos they cant ask questions or get answers ( though stating questions are pointless according to critics)

im beginning to think that some fans are getting carried away with this March.......people power etc. erm ok

I thik some are getting carried away with SKY, Radio, Echo, BBC etc......the same media that most of you point the finger at for giving us terrible press........ how things change eh? When he's gone lads who are the press going to point the finger at then? FFS lads you cant even agree over the TRUST.......you even distrust each other!

Because I asked a few questions a few weeks ago I was accused of being a fan of PR.......couldnt be further from the truth.

If the Malaysians pull out it will be spin......... if they come on board you'll claim People power won .

I did say yesterday I can change my mind daily.......and I do.

Any of you that think the March will achieve anything other than getting PR aimed out you are deluding yourselves....... remember once he goes.....and Im sure he will .........who shall we blame then?

I cant believe SB is going to Malaysia for the fun of it........... He's put more money into the club than anyone of us.

Before I get flak....... who states a director is a bollox and im done with him.....and 2 days later states I was taslking to so and so again and he says etc. etc.

If some of our fans are the answer Id love to know what the f**k the question is?

But hey....its all opinion right?



Each to there own mate. i wont knock you for your beliefs thats your parogative. If we get wound up or worse liquidated how would u feel if you hadnt displayed your feelings? I would imagine your not that naive to believe everything is rosey?

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:00 am

ianfens wrote:
The Rhooster wrote:
ianfens wrote:
Debate? ....and if someone disagrees its sniping?

I think because its gone so far a lot of people cant see beyond the tv cameras and interviews.

Lets see if 2k turn up......i hope so.



seriously what would be the point of debating 11pm the night before?

and id go as far as to say some of the points you made were little snipes about the demo yes.

the tv cameras and interviews statement youve out there makes a lot of assumptions about people.



Id have loved to see a couple of fans take PR up on a meeting tomorrow morning......... of course we know it all and we have no questions..........meanwhile we''ll slag the TRUST cos they cant organise a meeting to ask questions.

It appears to me no one can see beyond a March and a camera........seems logical to me.


logical dont seem to be how you think, your making sweeping statements regarding the march.

Your saying about slagging the TRust, I am one of the main organisors of this march as most know, and feel free to go through every post of mine, I have never slagged the trust off, ive always said theres a need to fight this on as many fronts as possible that being the march, the trust and the supporters club.

PR has met the fans on numerous occassions, makes statements and then those statement turn out ot be bullshit weeks after, is it nay wonder nobody will listen to him anymore?

but you keep logically assuming stuff about the people on this march.

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:09 am

NinianSHEEP wrote:
ianfens wrote:Here we go........

First of all I was told the March wanted answers to questions....... this has proved to be incorrect as numerous others think it pointless to ask PR questions. Fair enough.

A lot of people have slagged the TRUST cos they cant ask questions or get answers ( though stating questions are pointless according to critics)

im beginning to think that some fans are getting carried away with this March.......people power etc. erm ok

I thik some are getting carried away with SKY, Radio, Echo, BBC etc......the same media that most of you point the finger at for giving us terrible press........ how things change eh? When he's gone lads who are the press going to point the finger at then? FFS lads you cant even agree over the TRUST.......you even distrust each other!

Because I asked a few questions a few weeks ago I was accused of being a fan of PR.......couldnt be further from the truth.

If the Malaysians pull out it will be spin......... if they come on board you'll claim People power won .

I did say yesterday I can change my mind daily.......and I do.

Any of you that think the March will achieve anything other than getting PR aimed out you are deluding yourselves....... remember once he goes.....and Im sure he will .........who shall we blame then?

I cant believe SB is going to Malaysia for the fun of it........... He's put more money into the club than anyone of us.

Before I get flak....... who states a director is a bollox and im done with him.....and 2 days later states I was taslking to so and so again and he says etc. etc.

If some of our fans are the answer Id love to know what the f**k the question is?

But hey....its all opinion right?



Each to there own mate. i wont knock you for your beliefs thats your parogative. If we get wound up or worse liquidated how would u feel if you hadnt displayed your feelings? I would imagine your not that naive to believe everything is rosey?



Mate, the march was originally about looking for answers to questions......... it now appears we arent even after answers.

PR said he would meet a few fans tomorrow morning at 10.30....... personally if we arent asking questions......then whats the point?

Id like someones take on a meeting rather than singing PR PR PR OUT OUT OUT!

I wanted fans asking questions on our behalf in a meeting without the restrictions that a SHAREHOLDERS EGM offered.

Put it this way........fans wanted to ask questions at an EGM.........yet its def. a NO to a private meeting...... why bother in an EGM?

I forgot........they were in the limelight then. Think about it.

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:11 am

ianfens wrote:
NinianSHEEP wrote:
ianfens wrote:Here we go........

First of all I was told the March wanted answers to questions....... this has proved to be incorrect as numerous others think it pointless to ask PR questions. Fair enough.

A lot of people have slagged the TRUST cos they cant ask questions or get answers ( though stating questions are pointless according to critics)

im beginning to think that some fans are getting carried away with this March.......people power etc. erm ok

I thik some are getting carried away with SKY, Radio, Echo, BBC etc......the same media that most of you point the finger at for giving us terrible press........ how things change eh? When he's gone lads who are the press going to point the finger at then? FFS lads you cant even agree over the TRUST.......you even distrust each other!

Because I asked a few questions a few weeks ago I was accused of being a fan of PR.......couldnt be further from the truth.

If the Malaysians pull out it will be spin......... if they come on board you'll claim People power won .

I did say yesterday I can change my mind daily.......and I do.

Any of you that think the March will achieve anything other than getting PR aimed out you are deluding yourselves....... remember once he goes.....and Im sure he will .........who shall we blame then?

I cant believe SB is going to Malaysia for the fun of it........... He's put more money into the club than anyone of us.

Before I get flak....... who states a director is a bollox and im done with him.....and 2 days later states I was taslking to so and so again and he says etc. etc.

If some of our fans are the answer Id love to know what the f**k the question is?

But hey....its all opinion right?



Each to there own mate. i wont knock you for your beliefs thats your parogative. If we get wound up or worse liquidated how would u feel if you hadnt displayed your feelings? I would imagine your not that naive to believe everything is rosey?



Mate, the march was originally about looking for answers to questions......... it now appears we arent even after answers.

PR said he would meet a few fans tomorrow morning at 10.30....... personally if we arent asking questions......then whats the point?

Id like someones take on a meeting rather than singing PR PR PR OUT OUT OUT!

I wanted fans asking questions on our behalf in a meeting without the restrictions that a SHAREHOLDERS EGM offered.

Put it this way........fans wanted to ask questions at an EGM.........yet its def. a NO to a private meeting...... why bother in an EGM?

I forgot........they were in the limelight then. Think about it.

Whats the point of talking to a fucker who dont know the meaning of the word honesty? f**k him he's gone, dont worry about it :lol:

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:13 am

Oh great......I feel much better now.

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:14 am

ianfens wrote:Oh great......I feel much better now.

I'm glad u feel better butt, have a nice kip now it will all be sorted by tomorrow night :lol:

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:15 am

I favour both routes , if that makes any sense

trust , organised demos etc

but as for talking to peter ridsdale , apart from at an official meeting ?

what a waste of time that would be

he has had meeting after meeting with the fans

and we get the same old cabbage

no, any meeting with the club has to be official and minuted

waste of time getting him top talk the fans over then the same fans come out and tell us its all ok

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:16 am

Sludge wrote:I favour both routes , if that makes any sense

trust , organised demos etc

but as for talking to peter ridsdale , apart from at an official meeting ?

what a waste of time that would be

he has had meeting after meeting with the fans

and we get the same old cabbage

no, any meeting with the club has to be official and minuted

waste of time getting him top talk the fans over then the same fans come out and tell us its all ok

He's a lying kent end of :lol:

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:20 am

Sludge, If he rang you at 6pm tonight and said come on down the club with 3 others and Ill give you some answers......but keep it to yourself youd be there like a shot.

Same as most here.

Oh I forgot.....only a few are allowed to do that. ;-)

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:29 am

the answer to all this is simple, if you support the march, go to the march, if you dont, go the game. ....simples :D

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:30 am

ianfens wrote:Sludge, If he rang you at 6pm tonight and said come on down the club with 3 others and Ill give you some answers......but keep it to yourself youd be there like a shot.

Same as most here.

Oh I forgot.....only a few are allowed to do that. ;-)

I wouldnt he's a lying kent end of

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:31 am

ianfens wrote:
NinianSHEEP wrote:
ianfens wrote:Here we go........

First of all I was told the March wanted answers to questions....... this has proved to be incorrect as numerous others think it pointless to ask PR questions. Fair enough.

A lot of people have slagged the TRUST cos they cant ask questions or get answers ( though stating questions are pointless according to critics)

im beginning to think that some fans are getting carried away with this March.......people power etc. erm ok

I thik some are getting carried away with SKY, Radio, Echo, BBC etc......the same media that most of you point the finger at for giving us terrible press........ how things change eh? When he's gone lads who are the press going to point the finger at then? FFS lads you cant even agree over the TRUST.......you even distrust each other!

Because I asked a few questions a few weeks ago I was accused of being a fan of PR.......couldnt be further from the truth.

If the Malaysians pull out it will be spin......... if they come on board you'll claim People power won .

I did say yesterday I can change my mind daily.......and I do.

Any of you that think the March will achieve anything other than getting PR aimed out you are deluding yourselves....... remember once he goes.....and Im sure he will .........who shall we blame then?

I cant believe SB is going to Malaysia for the fun of it........... He's put more money into the club than anyone of us.

Before I get flak....... who states a director is a bollox and im done with him.....and 2 days later states I was taslking to so and so again and he says etc. etc.

If some of our fans are the answer Id love to know what the f**k the question is?

But hey....its all opinion right?



Each to there own mate. i wont knock you for your beliefs thats your parogative. If we get wound up or worse liquidated how would u feel if you hadnt displayed your feelings? I would imagine your not that naive to believe everything is rosey?



Mate, the march was originally about looking for answers to questions......... it now appears we arent even after answers.

PR said he would meet a few fans tomorrow morning at 10.30....... personally if we arent asking questions......then whats the point?

Id like someones take on a meeting rather than singing PR PR PR OUT OUT OUT!

I wanted fans asking questions on our behalf in a meeting without the restrictions that a SHAREHOLDERS EGM offered.

Put it this way........fans wanted to ask questions at an EGM.........yet its def. a NO to a private meeting...... why bother in an EGM?

I forgot........they were in the limelight then. Think about it.



As i said mate your own feeling's are exactly that! Im not naive as to think that we will achieve immeadiate actions but what else are we to do? you seem to be very clued up. why dont you tell me the best strategy? Hve you got a better alternative as a fan? I think not. Im not knocking your feelings or best approach thats entirely up to you.

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:32 am

rob wrote:the answer to all this is simple, if you support the march, go to the march, if you dont, go the game. ....simples :D



Its a MB where you give opinion.......even simpler. ;-)

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:34 am

ianfens wrote:
rob wrote:the answer to all this is simple, if you support the march, go to the march, if you dont, go the game. ....simples :D



Its a MB where you give opinion.......even simpler. ;-)



and thats your opinion.....so it works...simples :D

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:03 am

Right then ianfens, you've pushed the line a bit on here so I'll clear this up in a reasonable, articualte way so you don't think I'm a mindless hooligan or that I want Annis in as Chairman or whatever it is you Ridsdale apologists are generalising the protesters as doing now.

ianfens wrote:First of all I was told the March wanted answers to questions....... this has proved to be incorrect as numerous others think it pointless to ask PR questions. Fair enough.


This has not been "proved" or perhaps proven to be incorrect at all. I still want to know why Ridsdale thinks he can lie to us, and why he thinks he deserves any kind of bonuses at all, why he took the stadium completion bonus when the stadium wasn't complete and why he thinks he deserves to remain Chairman of this club. So what you've gone and done is lied, which I'm not at all happy about.

A lot of people have slagged the TRUST cos they cant ask questions or get answers ( though stating questions are pointless according to critics)


Have they? Where, when and how have they done so? Do you have any quotes or sources to prove this has happened?

I thik some are getting carried away with SKY, Radio, Echo, BBC etc......the same media that most of you point the finger at for giving us terrible press........ how things change eh?


Yeah, things do change. Sky's coverage of us has been wonderful over the last few years, we only really slag the BBC off for being biased towards rugby and Newcastle, and ITV are widely renowned for being shit.

When he's gone lads who are the press going to point the finger at then?

You've lost me there.

FFS lads you cant even agree over the TRUST.......you even distrust each other!

You really should stop lying you know.

Because I asked a few questions a few weeks ago I was accused of being a fan of PR.......couldnt be further from the truth.

But with some of your posts you can understand why you come across as an apologist of Ridsdale's. Indeed, you're coming out with some lies he'd be proud of in this post.

If the Malaysians pull out it will be spin...

No it won't, we know the Malaysians are interested due to the presence of Dato Chan at the club. If they pull out because of this protest then I don't want them at the club anyway because one protest that isn't directed at them or the team should not scare them off. It would point to a lack of mental strength which Christ knows you need to run this football club.

if they come on board you'll claim People power won

Would they really? No, nobody will do that. Well I won't anyway, and anyone who does is incredibly daft for thinking they would directly as a result of the protest.

Any of you that think the March will achieve anything other than getting PR aimed out you are deluding yourselves.......


That sentence doesn't make sense.

I cant believe SB is going to Malaysia for the fun of it........... He's put more money into the club than anyone of us.

And more than Ridsdale. And indeed Keith Harris who is someone I have a major grouch with being associated with our club in any way given his lack of action.

Before I get flak....... who states a director is a bollox and im done with him.....and 2 days later states I was taslking to so and so again and he says etc. etc.

I don't know, you tell me because I'm honestly lost again.

If some of our fans are the answer Id love to know what the f**k the question is?

So would I. What on earth do you mean "some of our fans are the answer"? Who said that?

But hey....its all opinion right?


Yes, it absolutely is. Enjoy the game tomorrow, and if you're not protesting go about your business as if we're not there. Petty comments are the last thing anybody needs and are divisive and unnecessary.


EDIT: Oh, it appears I'm too late to avert any petty comments. You disappoint me ianfens.

Sludge, If he rang you at 6pm tonight and said come on down the club with 3 others and Ill give you some answers......but keep it to yourself youd be there like a shot.
Same as most here.
Oh I forgot.....only a few are allowed to do that.

Re: MY OPINION

Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:27 am

cracking reply there DaveSheffield. well done :ayatollah: :ayatollah: