Has the Trust lost the Trust of................

the fans, reading on other messageboards about trust members having meetings with PR and then big gwynnes post abouut backing of the march

I was considering joining but i am in two minds at the moment, what is going on surely the members should know if committee members are going to meet with the club.

Is it me or am i just being a tad suspicious, or what, please put my mind at rest!!!!

why not be a neutral and join vince and the supporters club instead .

just a thought !

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We don't need this dividing of the fans at the moment!

TLG's posted info about the meeting on the thread on ccmb anyway

why not be a neutral and join vince and the supporters club instead .

just a thought !

what would that achieve, i am a fully payed up member of ''dibs international tours''

I was considering joining but i am in two minds at the moment, what is going on surely the members should know if committee members are going to meet with the club.

Representatives of the Trust meet with representatives of the club on a very regular basis. Naturally, we don't send out reports to the members of every meeting we hold. We only do so if there is anything concrete to report.

In answer to a question on Mike's board about the latest meeting, I posted the following:

"Peter Ridsdale telephoned me on Wednesday morning after reading an Echo article in which Keith Morgan and I were quoted. He asked for a meeting with Keith, myself and Tim Hartley to discuss the current situation. His preference was for late on Friday afternoon, but two of us couldn't make it then, so the meeting was scheduled for 6:30pm on Thursday evening (Ridsdale had been in London all day).

"Gareth Davies, the club's Head of Media, was also present at the meeting. It lasted about an hour, had no set agenda, and proved to be little more than an exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess. We are meeting again shortly, when a more formal agenda and list of questions will be drawn up, but no date has been set yet."

good reply, but how can you convince me to join is a good thing, i am almost ready to sign up, as you are aware from my posts i dont slag anyone off well very rarely and i do have an open mind


baz

I was considering joining but i am in two minds at the moment, what is going on surely the members should know if committee members are going to meet with the club.

Representatives of the Trust meet with representatives of the club on a very regular basis. Naturally, we don't send out reports to the members of every meeting we hold. We only do so if there is anything concrete to report.

In answer to a question on Mike's board about the latest meeting, I posted the following:

"Peter Ridsdale telephoned me on Wednesday morning after reading an Echo article in which Keith Morgan and I were quoted. He asked for a meeting with Keith, myself and Tim Hartley to discuss the current situation. His preference was for late on Friday afternoon, but two of us couldn't make it then, so the meeting was scheduled for 6:30pm on Thursday evening (Ridsdale had been in London all day).

"Gareth Davies, the club's Head of Media, was also present at the meeting. It lasted about an hour, had no set agenda, and proved to be little more than an exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess. We are meeting again shortly, when a more formal agenda and list of questions will be drawn up, but no date has been set yet."

Would you be kind enough to tell us Dave what was said in the exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess.

I was considering joining but i am in two minds at the moment, what is going on surely the members should know if committee members are going to meet with the club.

Representatives of the Trust meet with representatives of the club on a very regular basis. Naturally, we don't send out reports to the members of every meeting we hold. We only do so if there is anything concrete to report.

In answer to a question on Mike's board about the latest meeting, I posted the following:

"Peter Ridsdale telephoned me on Wednesday morning after reading an Echo article in which Keith Morgan and I were quoted. He asked for a meeting with Keith, myself and Tim Hartley to discuss the current situation. His preference was for late on Friday afternoon, but two of us couldn't make it then, so the meeting was scheduled for 6:30pm on Thursday evening (Ridsdale had been in London all day).

"Gareth Davies, the club's Head of Media, was also present at the meeting. It lasted about an hour, had no set agenda, and proved to be little more than an exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess. We are meeting again shortly, when a more formal agenda and list of questions will be drawn up, but no date has been set yet."

Just out of interest what were you quoted as saying in the Echo?

Just out of interest what were you quoted as saying in the Echo?

Dave Sugarman, membership secretary of the Supporters’ Trust, said: “The current board lost a lot of trust and credibility among fans with the Golden Ticket offer.

“Very few supporters trust what the club’s hierarchy are saying.

“I would have thought anyone who was going to renew for next season would have done so before Christmas and, given the club’s current financial situation, I can’t see supporters buying tickets now.”

I think that's the quotes he's referring to. I may well be wrong though

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonl ... -25949511/

Would you be kind enough to tell us Dave what was said in the exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess.

The discussions lasted an hour, Carl.

I think that's the quotes he's referring to. I may well be wrong though

Good man, Owain! I was just about to start trawling through the icWales website but you've saved me a job!

Baz, I'm a member, it's worth joining as the more members it has the more power it has with the club although, I must admit, I only joined recently in reaction to recent issues at the club. As they are an official organisation, they have to tread a lot more carefully than Annis, but their agenda is the same. Would be unfair to look at the Trust only in relation to the current situation as they have done a lot of good work in advance, I do feel they have been a bit slow to react to fan's current high emotions and have been over taken a bit by this MB on this issue alone, but I would recommend joining so you can have your say.

I think that's the quotes he's referring to. I may well be wrong though

Good man, Owain! I was just about to start trawling through the icWales website but you've saved me a job!

Only took a quick search

What were your thoughts about the future of the club, and it's current position at the moment? Did anything positive come of it?

ok then who has hijacked my thread


Dave, what are the benefits of me joining, like i said i have been pondering for a while.

I was considering joining but i am in two minds at the moment, what is going on surely the members should know if committee members are going to meet with the club.

Representatives of the Trust meet with representatives of the club on a very regular basis. Naturally, we don't send out reports to the members of every meeting we hold. We only do so if there is anything concrete to report.

In answer to a question on Mike's board about the latest meeting, I posted the following:

"Peter Ridsdale telephoned me on Wednesday morning after reading an Echo article in which Keith Morgan and I were quoted. He asked for a meeting with Keith, myself and Tim Hartley to discuss the current situation. His preference was for late on Friday afternoon, but two of us couldn't make it then, so the meeting was scheduled for 6:30pm on Thursday evening (Ridsdale had been in London all day).

"Gareth Davies, the club's Head of Media, was also present at the meeting. It lasted about an hour, had no set agenda, and proved to be little more than an exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess. We are meeting again shortly, when a more formal agenda and list of questions will be drawn up, but no date has been set yet."

Yawn.... the same Keith Riddler was slagging from his hole to his pole weeks ago as he delved into his affairs? thats a turnaround.... like a local village club..... hardly Championship behaviour ....... but hey ho .

Would you be kind enough to tell us Dave what was said in the exchange of views regarding the current position of the club and how it has got into such a mess.

The discussions lasted an hour, Carl.

In other words no mind your own business

What were your thoughts about the future of the club, and it's current position at the moment? Did anything positive come of it?

To be honest, not a great deal of new information came out of the meeting, so it's as you were really. Ridsdale is still referring to the current situation as a short-term problem, and I sincerely hope he's right but I don't share his confidence.

Baz, I'm a member, it's worth joining as the more members it has the more power it has with the club although, I must admit, I only joined recently in reaction to recent issues at the club. As they are an official organisation, they have to tread a lot more carefully than Annis, but their agenda is the same. Would be unfair to look at the Trust only in relation to the current situation as they have done a lot of good work in advance, I do feel they have been a bit slow to react to fan's current high emotions and have been over taken a bit by this MB on this issue alone, but I would recommend joining so you can have your say.

suggsy you may well have convinced me, thanks

why not be a neutral and join vince and the supporters club instead .

just a thought !

problem with that is that vince was slagged off when he made a personal plea for the fans to back ridsdale, for the time being , a few months ago

and , of course, as the supporters club has 1200 members , then people who ahve a go at the trust for only having 1000 members , and have a go at the march for 2000 , will also say " vince isnt speaking on behalf of us !!!......"

What were your thoughts about the future of the club, and it's current position at the moment? Did anything positive come of it?

To be honest, not a great deal of new information came out of the meeting, so it's as you were really. Ridsdale is still referring to the current situation as a short-term problem, and I sincerely hope he's right but I don't share his confidence.

nothing comes out your meetings.... you get mugged off. thats not a slate but your current board of trust has no experience apart from a few pen pushers liking the limelight, sad to see Corky go, he was the rock.

What were your thoughts about the future of the club, and it's current position at the moment? Did anything positive come of it?

To be honest, not a great deal of new information came out of the meeting, so it's as you were really. Ridsdale is still referring to the current situation as a short-term problem, and I sincerely hope he's right but I don't share his confidence.

nothing comes out your meetings.... you get mugged off. thats not a slate but your current board of trust has no experience apart from a few pen pushers liking the limelight, sad to see Corky go, he was the rock.

What do you suggest the best plan of action is?

sludge in simple mathematical terms the vast majority of city fans are neither in the trust or the supporters club .The vast amount of city fans didn't attend the march yesterday . that speaks volumes

what was pleasing yesterday was to see almost 20,000 people support the side .

thats exacly what I mean

we have a number of fans goups and we should all be getting together

some people will want to demo

some will want pressure put on the club via the press, meetings etc

its all good if you take your approach

and , of course, many people are in all three groups

What were your thoughts about the future of the club, and it's current position at the moment? Did anything positive come of it?

To be honest, not a great deal of new information came out of the meeting, so it's as you were really. Ridsdale is still referring to the current situation as a short-term problem, and I sincerely hope he's right but I don't share his confidence.

nothing comes out your meetings.... you get mugged off. thats not a slate but your current board of trust has no experience apart from a few pen pushers liking the limelight, sad to see Corky go, he was the rock.

keith morgan has extensive experience in football finance dayo

are u taking the piss ?

Baz, I'm a member, it's worth joining as the more members it has the more power it has with the club although, I must admit, I only joined recently in reaction to recent issues at the club. As they are an official organisation, they have to tread a lot more carefully than Annis, but their agenda is the same. Would be unfair to look at the Trust only in relation to the current situation as they have done a lot of good work in advance, I do feel they have been a bit slow to react to fan's current high emotions and have been over taken a bit by this MB on this issue alone, but I would recommend joining so you can have your say.

suggsy you may well have convinced me, thanks

As the great Harry Enfield once said......

Better to be on the train pissing out onto the platform, than standing on the platform trying to piss into a passing train

Baz, I'm a member, it's worth joining as the more members it has the more power it has with the club although, I must admit, I only joined recently in reaction to recent issues at the club. As they are an official organisation, they have to tread a lot more carefully than Annis, but their agenda is the same. Would be unfair to look at the Trust only in relation to the current situation as they have done a lot of good work in advance, I do feel they have been a bit slow to react to fan's current high emotions and have been over taken a bit by this MB on this issue alone, but I would recommend joining so you can have your say.

suggsy you may well have convinced me, thanks

As the great Harry Enfield once said......

Better to be on the train pissing out onto the platform, than standing on the platform trying to piss into a passing train

pen pusher at end of day, if it wasnt for the efforts of thers to get stuck in there would not be roles for the like of Keef.

Hes got a bit of limelight through messageboards and trusts but prey tell me what benefit he will bring as an accountant?|

Gabbsnewt used to claim he was an expert too..... his ex firm dont seem to be too hot at the mo either that he proffessed about !

i did ask a question the other night what have the trust actually produced in results...... i still await an answer.

Just out of interest what were you quoted as saying in the Echo?

Dave Sugarman, membership secretary of the Supporters’ Trust, said: “The current board lost a lot of trust and credibility among fans with the Golden Ticket offer.

“Very few supporters trust what the club’s hierarchy are saying.

“I would have thought anyone who was going to renew for next season would have done so before Christmas and, given the club’s current financial situation, I can’t see supporters buying tickets now.”

I think that's the quotes he's referring to. I may well be wrong though

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonl ... -25949511/

TLG doesn't this prove that you have found where Ridsdale is vulnerable? He chased you for an urgent meeting because you dared question the fans trust in the present board and that might translate into poor season ticket sales.

It would seem to me more press statements along those lines are needed but not just by you, let's hear more from the other Trust Board members and start putting the pressure on.

pen pusher at end of day, if it wasnt for the efforts of thers to get stuck in there would not be roles for the like of Keef.

Hes got a bit of limelight through messageboards and trusts but prey tell me what benefit he will bring as an accountant?|

Gabbsnewt used to claim he was an expert too..... his ex firm dont seem to be too hot at the mo either that he proffessed about !

i did ask a question the other night what have the trust actually produced in results...... i still await an answer.

what a load of rubbish steve

you are stiring and stirring

it doesnt wash me with at all