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RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:02 pm

with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:05 pm

i honestly dont know if this delay will prove to be agood thing though, administration now as opposed to later would have been a better option. assuming this so called investment fails to apepar again.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:05 pm

Bit like you then, good delaying tactics..... yes we are here!!

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:06 pm

Lady Blue wrote:Bit like you then, good delaying tactics..... yes we are here!!


Yes on my way :lol:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:07 pm

i think ridsdale is counting chickens before they hatch, if we dont secure this investment we are only delaying the inevitable.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:07 pm

The Rhooster wrote:i honestly dont know if this delay will prove to be agood thing though, administration now as opposed to later would have been a better option. assuming this so called investment fails to apepar again.


Paul, thats My Worry, I can only see Admin, unless we get promotion or Malaysians put Millions in now.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.


It appears to me PR just rode his luck. The High Court seem to opporate an unofficial 3 strikes and out policy. He probably banked on that and got away with it.

The Judge was not impressed at all and dissmissed the bullshit about 'net assets' 'investments' and '£30m squad value' with his comment about the club being unable to pay its debts as and when they fell.

TBH I think I could have pulled that off today and I would have done it for nothing, rather than paying an absolute tosser £1,000 per day (net) to do it.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:14 pm

The 2 good things that I can gather from today events are:

- This alledged forth-coming investment of £6M would pay the tax and wages until the end of the season. (after the end of the season, how much more would we need?)
- The investment is meant to be made by 18th March, this would still give us 7 days to go into administration before the 25th March deadline (after then points taken off next season rather than this) if it did not materialise.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:16 pm

Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.

isint there two million to come of brum for the roger johnston deal and and part of the camron jerome deal do you think they had that yet or are relying on that to pay the tax bill or wages?

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Lady Blue wrote:Bit like you then, good delaying tactics..... yes we are here!!


Yes on my way :lol:


OOPS...I detect a domestic.... :lol:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:25 pm

joncandy wrote:The 2 good things that I can gather from today events are:

- This alledged forth-coming investment of £6M would pay the tax and wages until the end of the season. (after the end of the season, how much more would we need?)
- The investment is meant to be made by 18th March, this would still give us 7 days to go into administration before the 25th March deadline (after then points taken off next season rather than this) if it did not materialise.


Pay tax and wages to end of season, sure - but would it pay off the tax debts? That's the big question. Or would the money go to someone owed 9m?

The investment doesn't in itself guarantee admin won't happen. Nor does it guarantee tax man being paid off.

I'd suspect Guy gets his money then admin / CVA.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:36 pm

nerd wrote:
Pay tax and wages to end of season, sure - but would it pay off the tax debts? That's the big question. Or would the money go to someone owed 9m?

The investment doesn't in itself guarantee admin won't happen. Nor does it guarantee tax man being paid off.

I'd suspect Guy gets his money then admin / CVA.


That's how I see it. The Malaysians buy PMG's mortgage holdings for £6m (they probably had the earlier £500k as a deposit) and PMG have the hotel plot for £1.8m

We go into admin and suddenly the Malaysians are the biggest secured creditor and take the club for peanuts leaving Sam and everyone else with a 1p in the £ if they are lucky.

Job done the Malaysians get the club for around £10m debt free and Ridsdale's out on his arse.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.


I'm glad he is like the Artful Dodger. Atleast we still have a club at the momment.
PR if your reading this it still doesn't mean I like you, f**k you

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:54 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.


It appears to me PR just rode his luck. The High Court seem to opporate an unofficial 3 strikes and out policy. He probably banked on that and got away with it.

The Judge was not impressed at all and dissmissed the bullshit about 'net assets' 'investments' and '£30m squad value' with his comment about the club being unable to pay its debts as and when they fell.

TBH I think I could have pulled that off today and I would have done it for nothing, rather than paying an absolute tosser £1,000 per day (net) to do it.


The nett figure would assume that he paid the tax on it - and we know his previous in that area :lol:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:06 pm

LlwyncelynBlue wrote:
The nett figure would assume that he paid the tax on it - and we know his previous in that area :lol:


Good point :lol: :lol:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:13 pm

wez 1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.

isint there two million to come of brum for the roger johnston deal and and part of the camron jerome deal do you think they had that yet or are relying on that to pay the tax bill or wages?



theyve had it early and took less.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:14 pm

wkdblue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Lady Blue wrote:Bit like you then, good delaying tactics..... yes we are here!!


Yes on my way :lol:


OOPS...I detect a domestic.... :lol:


Sorted her out :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:41 pm

Well he's gambling on unsecure income streams again isn't he. Simple as that.

Interesting to note that the £6m comes nowhere near covering all our debts BUT HMRC don't give a toss as long as they get their money.

I'm becoming very disillusioned with this world run by money. Very rapidly too.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.


The tax man himself is currently skint, hes being nice to everybody due to the current climate - its no masterstroke, a sniff o repayment Mr Tax will give more time in hope of retrival.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.




Give him credit !!

You'll be the only one :D


Havent you fallen for that on eonce already with your books ? :ayatollah:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:10 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.




Give him credit !!

You'll be the only one :D


Havent you fallen for that on eonce already with your books ? :ayatollah:

:lol:

I am giving him credit for being such a Bullshitter and getting away with it.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:11 pm

He is good at turning people , I will never forget the angry feeling towards PR at the start of the Muni meeting to the feeling of praise by the end of it.

But lets not lose sight, it is he who has mismanaged our club resulting in the court appearences :evil:

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.




Give him credit !!

You'll be the only one :D


Havent you fallen for that on eonce already with your books ? :ayatollah:

:lol:

I am giving him credit for being such a Bullshitter and getting away with it.


Oh yes, he's one of he best at that.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:19 pm

Daya wrote:The tax man himself is currently skint, hes being nice to everybody due to the current climate - its no masterstroke, a sniff o repayment Mr Tax will give more time in hope of retrival.


"Counsel Matthew Smith for HMRC had argued that the club should be wound up immediately, saying that it is "plainly insolvent"."

Hardly a masterstroke, Mr Nice Tax man hardly being nice... didn't want to give more time.

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:29 pm

nerd wrote:
Daya wrote:The tax man himself is currently skint, hes being nice to everybody due to the current climate - its no masterstroke, a sniff o repayment Mr Tax will give more time in hope of retrival.


"Counsel Matthew Smith for HMRC had argued that the club should be wound up immediately, saying that it is "plainly insolvent"."

Hardly a masterstroke, Mr Nice Tax man hardly being nice... didn't want to give more time.


Its just a game these barristers play..They gotta be seen to be doing summat, to justify their fat fees that they charge their clients..

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:57 pm

Forever Blue wrote:with 56 days delayed, for the Tax man.

That is what he is good at FIRST CLASS CONMAN IN MY OPINION.

But lets not forget who never paid the Tax in the First place and who has got us a Transfer Embargo.
OWES £30 MILLION STILL even though Sam has reduced his £24 mill to £10 Mill.
Lets see him pay the wages This Month ???
Dont forget cant even pay £62,000 to FAW.

I will give him Credit who knows how to delay things.


And South Wales Police Nearly £ 150 K that will doulble after Jacks match..

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:02 pm

wkdblue wrote:
nerd wrote:
Daya wrote:The tax man himself is currently skint, hes being nice to everybody due to the current climate - its no masterstroke, a sniff o repayment Mr Tax will give more time in hope of retrival.


"Counsel Matthew Smith for HMRC had argued that the club should be wound up immediately, saying that it is "plainly insolvent"."

Hardly a masterstroke, Mr Nice Tax man hardly being nice... didn't want to give more time.


Its just a game these barristers play..They gotta be seen to be doing summat, to justify their fat fees that they charge their clients..


Errm - what?

So what you're basically saying is HMRC don't really want us wound up, the lawyer acting for them just decided to posture to justify his fat fee?

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:54 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
nerd wrote:
Pay tax and wages to end of season, sure - but would it pay off the tax debts? That's the big question. Or would the money go to someone owed 9m?

The investment doesn't in itself guarantee admin won't happen. Nor does it guarantee tax man being paid off.

I'd suspect Guy gets his money then admin / CVA.


That's how I see it. The Malaysians buy PMG's mortgage holdings for £6m (they probably had the earlier £500k as a deposit) and PMG have the hotel plot for £1.8m

We go into admin and suddenly the Malaysians are the biggest secured creditor and take the club for peanuts leaving Sam and everyone else with a 1p in the £ if they are lucky.

Job done the Malaysians get the club for around £10m debt free and Ridsdale's out on his arse.



I would take that, then build again !!!!!!

Re: RIDSDALE YES HE HAS PULLED A MASTER STROKE

Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:02 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
nerd wrote:
Pay tax and wages to end of season, sure - but would it pay off the tax debts? That's the big question. Or would the money go to someone owed 9m?

The investment doesn't in itself guarantee admin won't happen. Nor does it guarantee tax man being paid off.

I'd suspect Guy gets his money then admin / CVA.


That's how I see it. The Malaysians buy PMG's mortgage holdings for £6m (they probably had the earlier £500k as a deposit) and PMG have the hotel plot for £1.8m

We go into admin and suddenly the Malaysians are the biggest secured creditor and take the club for peanuts leaving Sam and everyone else with a 1p in the £ if they are lucky.

Job done the Malaysians get the club for around £10m debt free and Ridsdale's out on his arse.



I would take that, then build again !!!!!!