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standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:06 am

i am going to the bank and cancelling my standing order for the trust,i like alot of guys behind the scheme, eg corky etc but feel not being represented as tlg must of read animal farm recently (all equal well some more than others)got own agenda not representing the members,i went on march and proud

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:09 am

dibstours wrote:i am going to the bank and cancelling my standing order for the trust,i like alot of guys behind the scheme, eg corky etc but feel not being represented as tlg must of read animal farm recently (all equal well some more than others)got own agenda not representing the members,i went on march and proud


Im going to the bank lunchtime and canelling mine also :ayatollah:

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:16 am

I'll be upping my standing order from individual to a family membership.

The fans need a formal and creditable organisation to make their voices heard and Cardiff's deserves all the support it can get.

At the end of the day, it isn't the TLG trust, or the Corky trust, it the Cardiff City Supporters Trust. I'll see past the individuals that represent it, they can be changed if the members aren't happy with their performance. To cancel because of one man's personal opinion would be petty, spitefull and irrational on my behalf.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:21 am

Dandyccfc wrote:I'll be upping my standing order from individual to a family membership.

The fans need a formal and creditable organisation to make their voices heard and Cardiff's deserves all the support it can get.

At the end of the day, it isn't the TLG trust, or the Corky trust, it the Cardiff City Supporters Trust. I'll see past the individuals that represent it, they can be changed if the members aren't happy with their performance. To cancel because of one man's personal opinion would be petty, spitefull and irrational on my behalf.


But it also makes no sense to belong to something you can no longer believe in. That's not spiteful, that's principled.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:22 am

Dandyccfc wrote:I'll be upping my standing order from individual to a family membership.

The fans need a formal and creditable organisation to make their voices heard and Cardiff's deserves all the support it can get.

At the end of the day, it isn't the TLG trust, or the Corky trust, it the Cardiff City Supporters Trust. I'll see past the individuals that represent it, they can be changed if the members aren't happy with their performance. To cancel because of one man's personal opinion would be petty, spitefull and irrational on my behalf.


I agree, but that's the nature of many City supporters. The birds of a feather idiom is perfectly represented by this board.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:34 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Dandyccfc wrote:I'll be upping my standing order from individual to a family membership.

The fans need a formal and creditable organisation to make their voices heard and Cardiff's deserves all the support it can get.

At the end of the day, it isn't the TLG trust, or the Corky trust, it the Cardiff City Supporters Trust. I'll see past the individuals that represent it, they can be changed if the members aren't happy with their performance. To cancel because of one man's personal opinion would be petty, spitefull and irrational on my behalf.


But it also makes no sense to belong to something you can no longer believe in. That's not spiteful, that's principled.


Fair comment, if that is the case, but TLG is being targetted on here personally, and people are using that as the excuse. Meanwhile, we've had posts off Annis himself wanting to attend a meeting with the board that the Trust have organised. So they are obviously doing something right, and there is a cause that many still believe in.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:38 am

dibstours wrote:i am going to the bank and cancelling my standing order for the trust,i like alot of guys behind the scheme, eg corky etc but feel not being represented as tlg must of read animal farm recently (all equal well some more than others)got own agenda not representing the members,i went on march and proud


Do the fans get what they deserve from this club? Unfortunately, I am beginning to think so. You have a vote at the next Trust elections. Use it like every other member. Anarchy is not a viable way forward.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:46 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Dandyccfc wrote:I'll be upping my standing order from individual to a family membership.

The fans need a formal and creditable organisation to make their voices heard and Cardiff's deserves all the support it can get.

At the end of the day, it isn't the TLG trust, or the Corky trust, it the Cardiff City Supporters Trust. I'll see past the individuals that represent it, they can be changed if the members aren't happy with their performance. To cancel because of one man's personal opinion would be petty, spitefull and irrational on my behalf.


But it also makes no sense to belong to something you can no longer believe in. That's not spiteful, that's principled.



Yes.

Of course it is.

Doeswn't take much for you to stop believing in something does it.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:50 am

Just because someone seems to have started a personal vendetta against a certain trust member, everybody else is following suit and cancelling their membership

If you're not happy with the way its run then why not vote for somebody who you want to run the trust, or even put yourself up for election

The last thing we need now is this continued attempt to destroy the supporters trust. We're our own worst enemies at the moment

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:02 am

Dandyccfc wrote:Fair comment, if that is the case, but TLG is being targetted on here personally, and people are using that as the excuse. Meanwhile, we've had posts off Annis himself wanting to attend a meeting with the board that the Trust have organised. So they are obviously doing something right, and there is a cause that many still believe in.


OK personally targeted? TLG goes looking for most of what comes his way and that statement about the March needing a police escort was the cheapest of shots, so his role in his own personal targeting shouldn't be overlooked.

Annis might have wanted to get involved with the Action Group on the basis he had already organised a very effect march which had gained widespread publicity. I know that is the one thing Ridsdale fears, attention drawn to his shortcomings.

In contrast the Trust has written a couple of statements/letters and held a fruitless meeting with the Chairman. To be blunt that is exactly what Ridsdale wants as he can control the situation by brainwashing with destabilising rumours and innuendos.

In that case Annis should have been invited to the Action Group meeting forthwith rather marginalised and you can argue that he put aside his personal snub for the best interests of Cardiff City. Does the failure to invite him say the same about the Trust and Supporters Club?

On your last point you are absolutely right, there will be fans who still believe the Trust is worthwhile and they have every right to continue their membership.

However, the opposite is also true.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:06 am

CF11 wrote:Just because someone seems to have started a personal vendetta against a certain trust member, everybody else is following suit and cancelling their membership

If you're not happy with the way its run then why not vote for somebody who you want to run the trust, or even put yourself up for election

The last thing we need now is this continued attempt to destroy the supporters trust. We're our own worst enemies at the moment


I spent months trying to change the way the Trust engaged with its members and in return I was targeted for personal abuse by members of the trust board.

I don't see why I should continue paying £5 p/m to remain in an organisation which is clearly undemocratic and is in breach of its own constitution.

That was MY DECISION and no-one else's

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:15 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CF11 wrote:Just because someone seems to have started a personal vendetta against a certain trust member, everybody else is following suit and cancelling their membership

If you're not happy with the way its run then why not vote for somebody who you want to run the trust, or even put yourself up for election

The last thing we need now is this continued attempt to destroy the supporters trust. We're our own worst enemies at the moment


I spent months trying to change the way the Trust engaged with its members and in return I was targeted for personal abuse by members of the trust board.

I don't see why I should continue paying £5 p/m to remain in an organisation which is clearly undemocratic and is in breach of its own constitution.

That was MY DECISION and no-one else's



What were you trying to change then.

Which members of the turst board tarbettede you for persoanl abuse then?

And how are they in breach of their consitution

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:17 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CF11 wrote:Just because someone seems to have started a personal vendetta against a certain trust member, everybody else is following suit and cancelling their membership

If you're not happy with the way its run then why not vote for somebody who you want to run the trust, or even put yourself up for election

The last thing we need now is this continued attempt to destroy the supporters trust. We're our own worst enemies at the moment


I spent months trying to change the way the Trust engaged with its members and in return I was targeted for personal abuse by members of the trust board.

I don't see why I should continue paying £5 p/m to remain in an organisation which is clearly undemocratic and is in breach of its own constitution.

That was MY DECISION and no-one else's


I understand that, but unfortunately there are a lot of people on here that are seemingly easily influenced. We don't want to end up losing members and destroying all the hard work put into the supporters trust just because one person didn't publically back the march. It all seems a bit petty in my view.

Surely the fact that there is an election coming up soon, where I would imagine anybody can stand and everyone is able to vote is democratic enough?

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:24 am

CF11 wrote:Just because someone seems to have started a personal vendetta against a certain trust member, everybody else is following suit and cancelling their membership

If you're not happy with the way its run then why not vote for somebody who you want to run the trust, or even put yourself up for election

The last thing we need now is this continued attempt to destroy the supporters trust. We're our own worst enemies at the moment


How has some one started a personal vendetta against a Trust member, he has ridiculed the march for the last 2 weeks and then personally slated the march, youve had your sly remarks as well.
He went personally for me. NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND.

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:28 am

What sly remarks?

I've said I didn't attend, but I wasn't necessarily against it. I just wasn't sure what it would achieve.

I didn't really see any ridiculing by Dave, just that he didn't agree with it. Maybe I missed some of it though

Re: standing order cancelled

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:46 am

CF11 wrote:What sly remarks?

I've said I didn't attend, but I wasn't necessarily against it. I just wasn't sure what it would achieve.

I didn't really see any ridiculing by Dave, just that he didn't agree with it. Maybe I missed some of it though


We see what we want to see regardless of facts. It's all too easy to create a demon to fight as has happened in this case.