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Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:48 pm
Although the new investment has not been finalised yet it seems that things are looking a lot more positive for the first time in months.
Steve Borley came in for a lot of stick on this and the other boards at the time of the EGM but it seems as if his trip to Malaysia has brought about the possibility of Ridsdale's time at the club coming to an end.
Should we now be reconsidering the criticisms aimed ( understandably) at Steve following the EGM and acknowledging that without the one true Cardiff City supporter on the board we may never have even got this far?
It would seem that if matters had been left with Ridsdale alone the Malaysians would have disappeared in a cloud of dust long ago.
Steve Borley - hero once more?
Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:52 pm
I dont think theres any need to reconsider any criticisms because they were correct in my opinion.
There are no doubts Steve is more CCFC than most regular posters on here though but the EGM could have been played out better, but then again who knows it may all have been a masterstroke by Steve, guess we'll never know.
Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:00 pm
I've always had faith in Steve. I still don't think he should have leaked certain information to Annis and said certain things to Annis if he was intending to remain outside of conflict in the public domain but he's been too good to Cardiff for too long. He's one of the good guys.
Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:07 pm
Borley was wrong in the way he treated Annis at the EGM and apparently laughed at the fans after one of the games where a demo didn't materialise.
That said I do believe he understood the Malaysians better than anyone else. Ridsdale saw them as another cash cow, whilst Borley connected on a businessman to businessman level.
IMO the Malaysians set the directors tasks which had to be completed before they came on board. That included reducing the Langston debt, removing the HoS liability, lowering PMG loans, removing Ridsdale and dropping the share price.
Probably settling up with the HMRC was another condition, but it looks like what has been achieved is enough. Borley has been instramental bringing things about and therefore has recovered his hero status.
Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:14 pm
I think it was clear that he backed Ridsdale at the EGM but deep down wanted him gone.
Don't think he wanted to a cause huge rift on the board as they are all Ridders mates.
And there were some calling for Borley to resign after EGM, when if he did we would no longer exist.
Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:22 pm
The Rhooster wrote:I dont think theres any need to reconsider any criticisms because they were correct in my opinion.
There are no doubts Steve is more CCFC than most regular posters on here though but the EGM could have been played out better, but then again who knows it may all have been a masterstroke by Steve, guess we'll never know.
The problem I see with the EGM is that Steve would have been powerless unless other major shareholders such as Paul Guy had backed him against PR.
If Steve had supported the no confidence vote and inevitably have been defeated I think he would have had no other course than to resign from the board.
And where would that have left his Malaysian trip which seems to be leading to the investement/takeover.
How could the EGM have been played out better by Steve?
Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:30 pm
how many times has he got us out of the shit?
fair play to him
Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:23 pm
Im just thinking on how often hes had to bite his lip over the last couple of
years. Owed plenty of money by the club, outnumbered on the board, and
with a genuine love of the City. Yes, hes taken loads of flak, i personally
think much of it out of order. But he's also been more or less forced to side
with Riddles, or walk and lose any chance of getting what was owed to him.
Add to that his love of Cardiff City, I suspect over the next few weeks or so
the truth will out and Mr Borley will come out quite rightly smelling of roses!!
Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:26 pm
Elwood Blues wrote:The Rhooster wrote:I dont think theres any need to reconsider any criticisms because they were correct in my opinion.
There are no doubts Steve is more CCFC than most regular posters on here though but the EGM could have been played out better, but then again who knows it may all have been a masterstroke by Steve, guess we'll never know.
The problem I see with the EGM is that Steve would have been powerless unless other major shareholders such as Paul Guy had backed him against PR.
If Steve had supported the no confidence vote and inevitably have been defeated I think he would have had no other course than to resign from the board.
And where would that have left his Malaysian trip which seems to be leading to the investement/takeover.
How could the EGM have been played out better by Steve?
A simple Yes i back Peter Ridsdale rather than the comment he made with regard to Annis, which is what the majority of the criticism about Steve was about.
Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:59 pm
The Rhooster wrote:Elwood Blues wrote:The Rhooster wrote:I dont think theres any need to reconsider any criticisms because they were correct in my opinion.
There are no doubts Steve is more CCFC than most regular posters on here though but the EGM could have been played out better, but then again who knows it may all have been a masterstroke by Steve, guess we'll never know.
The problem I see with the EGM is that Steve would have been powerless unless other major shareholders such as Paul Guy had backed him against PR.
If Steve had supported the no confidence vote and inevitably have been defeated I think he would have had no other course than to resign from the board.
And where would that have left his Malaysian trip which seems to be leading to the investement/takeover.
How could the EGM have been played out better by Steve?
A simple Yes i back Peter Ridsdale rather than the comment he made with regard to Annis, which is what the majority of the criticism about Steve was about.
Thing is he clearly DIDN'T WANT to back ridsdale. It was clear for all who were there to see.
I dont know what was said between Annis and Borley prior to the meeting, but Borley looked extremely uncomfortable with the question.
And if he has pulled this out I'm sure Annis will be the first to shake his hand.
Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:07 pm
Lawnmower wrote:The Rhooster wrote:Elwood Blues wrote:
The problem I see with the EGM is that Steve would have been powerless unless other major shareholders such as Paul Guy had backed him against PR.
If Steve had supported the no confidence vote and inevitably have been defeated I think he would have had no other course than to resign from the board.
And where would that have left his Malaysian trip which seems to be leading to the investement/takeover.
How could the EGM have been played out better by Steve?
A simple Yes i back Peter Ridsdale rather than the comment he made with regard to Annis, which is what the majority of the criticism about Steve was about.
Thing is he clearly DIDN'T WANT to back ridsdale. It was clear for all who were there to see.
I dont know what was said between Annis and Borley prior to the meeting, but Borley looked extremely uncomfortable with the question.
And if he has pulled this out I'm sure Annis will be the first to shake his hand.
Im sure thats right but the original post was whether any of us should be reconsidering the criticisms of Steve at the time, my opinion of that question is no, I feel steve didnt have to make the comment "what are you trying to achieve".That was what the majority of the criticism directed at Steve was if i remember correctly.
I sincerely hope Steve has pulled this out of the bag and knowing Steve he will have.
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