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How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:40 pm

I am wondering because it's my mates birthday tonight and the pub he is going to have got all under 18's serving and I know they will refuse me drink.

So can I say something along the line's of "Oh listen I know your under 18 and shouldn't be working here so just serve me and I won't say anything"

Or are they allowed?

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:42 pm

i think in a pub you have to be 18, but in a private club (working mens clubs...) 16 with adult supervision

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:42 pm

are you going to coventry???

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:44 pm

its 16 as long as your supervised

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:54 pm

wez 1927 wrote:its 16 as long as your supervised


Sorry but that 16 only applies in a supermarket, to work in any pub you have to be 18.

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:00 pm

This is the situation. It's run by a 17 year old girl who used to be in my school, her father is loaded and gave her the pub. She has employed loads of her friends and non of them are over 18. No adult supervision.

So is she allowed?

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:02 pm

NTB wrote:This is the situation. It's run by a 17 year old girl who used to be in my school, her father is loaded and gave her the pub. She has employed loads of her friends and non of them are over 18. No adult supervision.

So is she allowed?



No

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:11 pm

NTB wrote:This is the situation. It's run by a 17 year old girl who used to be in my school, her father is loaded and gave her the pub. She has employed loads of her friends and non of them are over 18. No adult supervision.

So is she allowed?

Definitely not, the licence must be in her fathers name as again you have to be 18 to hold a licence, and then very few 18 year olds are granted one.

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:13 pm

Igovernor wrote:
wez 1927 wrote:its 16 as long as your supervised


Sorry but that 16 only applies in a supermarket, to work in any pub you have to be 18.

is a common misconception that you must be 18 to legally serve alcohol in a public house.

The Licensing Act 2003 (Section 153) allows for the sale of alcohol by under 18s when supervised by a "responsible person" - defined thus:

(i) the holder of a premises licence in respect of the premises,
(ii) the designated premises supervisor (if any) under such a licence, or
(iii) any individual aged 18 or over who is authorised by such a holder :ayatollah:

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:16 pm

ive had a local girl who was 16 at the time working for me supervised by my bar manager ,i ask the local licence officer if it was ok and they said yes but she must be supervised! apub ,supermarket etc are now classed as one under the new act

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:21 pm

not sure about a "pub"

but i know people working in the local rugby club (there is a difference under licensing laws, i assume?) who are under 18 (17 to be exact)

either way i don't think arguing with them will work really ;)

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:45 pm

I work in a private club at 16
and a pub is 19 :ayatollah:

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:48 pm

18 sorry

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:54 pm

I have personal licence.

In a pub you have to be 18 to serve, you can collect glasses but not serve.

It is sixteen to serve in a club but it has to be a private members club.

If a rich dad gave you a pub to run you must have a licence and as you are responsible for the whole pub you must sit your exams and police checks before getting one. And if in charge you must register as the designated premises supervisor (DPS)

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:14 pm

wez 1927 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
wez 1927 wrote:its 16 as long as your supervised


Sorry but that 16 only applies in a supermarket, to work in any pub you have to be 18.

is a common misconception that you must be 18 to legally serve alcohol in a public house.

The Licensing Act 2003 (Section 153) allows for the sale of alcohol by under 18s when supervised by a "responsible person" - defined thus:

(i) the holder of a premises licence in respect of the premises,
(ii) the designated premises supervisor (if any) under such a licence, or
(iii) any individual aged 18 or over who is authorised by such a holder :ayatollah:


this was taken stright off the licensing act in black and white?

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:17 pm

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/uk ... 30017_en_1

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:18 pm

I was working behind the bar at 16 in Canton Labour Club.

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:44 pm

wez 1927 wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
wez 1927 wrote:its 16 as long as your supervised


Sorry but that 16 only applies in a supermarket, to work in any pub you have to be 18.

is a common misconception that you must be 18 to legally serve alcohol in a public house.

The Licensing Act 2003 (Section 153) allows for the sale of alcohol by under 18s when supervised by a "responsible person" - defined thus:

(i) the holder of a premises licence in respect of the premises,
(ii) the designated premises supervisor (if any) under such a licence, or
(iii) any individual aged 18 or over who is authorised by such a holder :ayatollah:

and each sale has to be approved by licence holder

Re: How old have you got to be to work behind a bar?

Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:46 pm

in my local it seems you have to be over 60 to serve, at least that's how old the miserable feckers look :D