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O/T - CAN ANYONE RECOMMEND A PLASMA/LCD TELE?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:14 pm

Right,

Sky+ box has gone capoot so now the wife is peeved cos she cant watch Neighbours.

To my suprise, SHE then suggests we get 'that Sky HD thing'. I tell her that we'll need a high def TV to make full use of it so she said well we can get one of those too :o

I think the pregnancy hormones are messing with her rational :lol:

So, I have a few questions i hope someone can answer:

1. What's the difference between Plasma and LCD? Which is better?
2. I assume 1080p is the best?
3. Do more hertz mean a better picture?
4. Can anyone recommend anything? I dont really want to spend over £500 if possible. 37" should be plentiful

:ayatollah:

Re: O/T - CAN ANYONE RECOMMEND A PLASMA/LCD TELE?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:20 pm

1--Plasma TV Overview

Plasma television technology is based loosely on the fluorescent light bulb. The display itself consists of cells. Within each cell two glass panels are separated by a narrow gap in which neon-xenon gas is injected and sealed in plasma form during the manufacturing process. The gas is electrically charged at specific intervals when the Plasma set is in use. The charged gas then strikes red, green, and blue phosphors, thus creating a television image. Each group of red, green, and blue phosphors is called a pixel (picture element).

Although Plasma television technology eliminate the need for the bulky picture tube and electron beam scanning of traditional televisions, because it still employs the burning of phosphors to generate an image, Plasma televisions still suffer from some of the drawbacks of traditional televisions, such as heat generation and screen-burn of static images.

LCD TV Overview

LCD televisions, on the other hand, use a different technology (see also question #1 for this same explanation).

Basically, LCD panels are made of two layers of transparent material, which are polarized, and are "glued" together. One of the layers is coated with a special polymer that holds the individual liquid crystals. Current is then passed through individual crystals, which allow the crystals to pass or block light to create images. LCD crystals do not produce their own light, so an external light source, such as florescent bulb is needed for the image created by the LCD to become visible to the viewer.

Unlike standard CRT and Plasma televisions, since there are no phosphors that light up, less power is needed for operation and the light source in an LCD television generates less heat than a Plasma or traditional television. Also, because of the nature of LCD technology, there is no radiation emitted from the screen itself.

Plasma vs LCD

The ADVANTAGES of Plasma over LCD are:

1. Larger screen size availability.

2. Better contrast ratio and ability to render deeper blacks.

3. Better color accuracy and saturation.

4. Better motion tracking (little or no motion lag in fast moving images).

The DISADVANTAGES of Plasma vs LCD include:

1. Plasma TVs are more susceptible to burn-in of static images.

2. Plasma TVs generate more heat than LCDs, due to the need to light of phosphors to create the images.

3. Does not perform as well at higher altitudes.

4. Potentially shorter display life span - this used to be the case. Early Plasmas had 30,000 hours or 8 hrs of viewing a day for 9 years, which was less than LCD. However, screen life span has now improved and 60,000 hour life span rating are now common, with some sets rated as high as 100,000 hours, due to technology improvements.

LCD television ADVANTAGES over Plasma include:

1. No burn-in of static images.

2. Cooler running temperature.

3. No high altitude use issues.

4. Increased image brightness over Plasma.

5. Lighter weight (when comparing same screen sizes) than Plasma counterparts.

6. Longer display life used to be a factor, but now LCD and Plasma sets both have at least 60,000 hour or higher lifespans.

DISADVANTAGES of LCD vs Plasma televisions include:

1. Lower contrast ratio, not as good rendering deep blacks.

2. Not as good at tracking motion (fast moving objects may exhibit lag artifacts) - However, this is improving with the recent implementation of 120Hz screen refresh rates and 240Hz processing in higher-end LCD sets.

3. Not as common in large screen sizes above 42-inches as Plasma. However, the number is growing fast, with 46 and 47-inch screen sizes becoming more common, and some LCD sets having a screen size as large as 65-inches also available to the general public.

4. Although LCD televisions do not suffer from burn-in susceptibility, it is possible that individual pixels on an LCD televisions can burn out, causing small, visible, black or white dots to appear on the screen. Individual pixels cannot be repaired, the whole screen would need to be replaced at that point, if the individual pixel burnout becomes annoying to you.

5. LCD televisions are typically more expensive than equivalent-sized Plasma televisions (although this is changing), especially when comparing EDTV Plasmas to HDTV-LCD Televisions.

Re: O/T - CAN ANYONE RECOMMEND A PLASMA/LCD TELE?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:22 pm

number 3....hertz



The refresh rate of the picture; as the screen is “drawn”, the pixels are refreshed a certain number of times per second, thus refresh rate. Rate is measured in “cycles per second” and the abbreviation for this is Hertz (or Hz for short). Although most video has a frame rate of 30 times (images) per second, the pixels are “charged” with information more times than that, which presents a crisper and more accurate image to the eyes.

It is said with higher refresh rates, there are less chances of visual artifacts when objects move quickly through the picture. Sometimes quick pans of the camera will cause flicker on the screen, or distortion where objects appear to bend when the camera pans from one side to another. This can also be a property of the camera type, as some camera technologies suffer from refresh issues when acquiring the image (CMOS sensors in particular).

Re: O/T - CAN ANYONE RECOMMEND A PLASMA/LCD TELE?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:26 pm

Cheers Rob!

So I should go for an LCD with a high hertz rate! Seen a Samsung and an LG on the currys website that I like the look of, will check them out tomorow!

Re: O/T - CAN ANYONE RECOMMEND A PLASMA/LCD TELE?

Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:30 pm

city_85 wrote:Right,

Sky+ box has gone capoot so now the wife is peeved cos she cant watch Neighbours.

To my suprise, SHE then suggests we get 'that Sky HD thing'. I tell her that we'll need a high def TV to make full use of it so she said well we can get one of those too :o

I think the pregnancy hormones are messing with her rational :lol:

So, I have a few questions i hope someone can answer:

1. What's the difference between Plasma and LCD? Which is better?
2. I assume 1080p is the best?
3. Do more hertz mean a better picture?
4. Can anyone recommend anything? I dont really want to spend over £500 if possible. 37" should be plentiful

:ayatollah:


1. Plasma for sport and films. A cardboard box with a picture of Kylie Minnogue selloptaped to the front will suffice for watching neighbours.
2. Probably
3. No thats where you hire a car.
4. Don't buy a Pannasonic Viera unless you have someone who knows about plasma panels, mine started getting the streaks about a week after the guarantee ran out! You'll probably need to spend a bit more than £500, try the "Moneysavingexpert" web site, it has the tightest bastards on the internet but has excellent advice for this sort of purchase.