Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
pembroke allan wrote:It is friendly and need to experiment a bit! judge on proper games remember Ireland game ?
Birminghamnewby27 wrote:Too early to judge Ryan Giggs ....Spain just battered Croatia 6-0 so we weren't expecting anything special tonight ...I still prefer the Mill stadium to ccs .. Love the atmosphere in town before a game and you virtually walk out of the pubs /restaurants into the ground instead of tedious walk to ccs ... But we do need to ramp up the atmosphere in mill stad I agree with that
Birminghamnewby27 wrote:Too early to judge Ryan Giggs ....Spain just battered Croatia 6-0 so we weren't expecting anything special tonight ...I still prefer the Mill stadium to ccs .. Love the atmosphere in town before a game and you virtually walk out of the pubs /restaurants into the ground instead of tedious walk to ccs ... But we do need to ramp up the atmosphere in mill stad I agree with that
avondaleblue wrote:Birminghamnewby27 wrote:Too early to judge Ryan Giggs ....Spain just battered Croatia 6-0 so we weren't expecting anything special tonight ...I still prefer the Mill stadium to ccs .. Love the atmosphere in town before a game and you virtually walk out of the pubs /restaurants into the ground instead of tedious walk to ccs ... But we do need to ramp up the atmosphere in mill stad I agree with that
Trouble is there's not much point having a fabulous atmosphere outside the stadium, you need it INSIDE to cheer the team on ffs
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
Llan_Blue wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
Your totally deluded if you have ever thought we are better then Spain or have been better then Spain.
Us getting to the euros semis is the same as England getting to the World Cup semis. Neither us or them were in the top four best teams in the competition.
Gone backwards for f**k sake
Some people on here are absolutely crazy.
avondaleblue wrote:Birminghamnewby27 wrote:Too early to judge Ryan Giggs ....Spain just battered Croatia 6-0 so we weren't expecting anything special tonight ...I still prefer the Mill stadium to ccs .. Love the atmosphere in town before a game and you virtually walk out of the pubs /restaurants into the ground instead of tedious walk to ccs ... But we do need to ramp up the atmosphere in mill stad I agree with that
Trouble is there's not much point having a fabulous atmosphere outside the stadium, you need it INSIDE to cheer the team on ffs
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
Your totally deluded if you have ever thought we are better then Spain or have been better then Spain.
Us getting to the euros semis is the same as England getting to the World Cup semis. Neither us or them were in the top four best teams in the competition.
Gone backwards for f**k sake
Some people on here are absolutely crazy.
Where did I say we are better than Spain? We would have at least been competitive if Coleman was still in charge. Tonights performance reminded me of the Bobby Gould days before Brooks came on to lift us!
Llan_Blue wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
Your totally deluded if you have ever thought we are better then Spain or have been better then Spain.
Us getting to the euros semis is the same as England getting to the World Cup semis. Neither us or them were in the top four best teams in the competition.
Gone backwards for f**k sake
Some people on here are absolutely crazy.
Where did I say we are better than Spain? We would have at least been competitive if Coleman was still in charge. Tonight's performance reminded me of the Bobby Gould days before Brooks came on to lift us!
Spain beat Croatia 6-0 mate.
Stop talking out your ass.
Croatia are miles ahead of us as well.
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
nubbsy wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
I agree with what you're saying but are you honestly implying that because we got further than them in the euros we were better than them?
Come on theres probably not a time in the last 10 years where they couldn't have easily put 4 goals past us.
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:nubbsy wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
I agree with what you're saying but are you honestly implying that because we got further than them in the euros we were better than them?
Come on theres probably not a time in the last 10 years where they couldn't have easily put 4 goals past us.
As I said above, I never said we have ever been better than Spain. I'm just saying during our Euro 2016 period, we were performing at a much superior level to our performance tonight. During Euro 2016, I'm not saying we would have beaten Spain if we got drawn against them, but we would have competed and given them a hell of a game.
Tonight's performance in comparison to the levels we reached during Euro 2016 was a massive backward step in my opinion. But of course, the stadium selection and Giggs' starting line up and tactics didn't help us one bit.
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Llan_Blue wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
Your totally deluded if you have ever thought we are better then Spain or have been better then Spain.
Us getting to the euros semis is the same as England getting to the World Cup semis. Neither us or them were in the top four best teams in the competition.
Gone backwards for f**k sake
Some people on here are absolutely crazy.
Where did I say we are better than Spain? We would have at least been competitive if Coleman was still in charge. Tonight's performance reminded me of the Bobby Gould days before Brooks came on to lift us!
Spain beat Croatia 6-0 mate.
Stop talking out your ass.
Croatia are miles ahead of us as well.
I know Spain beat Croatia 6-0 and Croatia are currently miles ahead of us, although we got further than Croatia in Euro 2016 as well (that doesn't mean I'm saying we are better than Croatia).
I find you genuinely fail to grasp many points people make on this forum and you jump to your own absurd conclusions before trying (and more often than not failing), to ridicule the poster.
1) I never said we are better than Spain.
2) I said tonight's performance was a backwards step in comparison to our performances leading up to and within Euro 2016, a tournament where we got further than Spain and at that point, I think we could have competed with Spain if we played them.
3) Again, that doesn't mean I'm saying we are better than Spain.
How is my point so difficult for you to grasp?
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:nubbsy wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Vokes up front against a team who dominate the ball. No pace up front to hit them on the break. Declan John thrown in who hasn't started a competitive game at Championship Swansea. We got further than Spain in Euro 2016 only 2 years ago. How much further backwards will Giggs take us? We would have been much more competitive under Coleman tonight imo.
I agree with what you're saying but are you honestly implying that because we got further than them in the euros we were better than them?
Come on theres probably not a time in the last 10 years where they couldn't have easily put 4 goals past us.
As I said above, I never said we have ever been better than Spain. I'm just saying during our Euro 2016 period, we were performing at a much superior level to our performance tonight. During Euro 2016, I'm not saying we would have beaten Spain if we got drawn against them, but we would have competed and given them a hell of a game.
Tonight's performance in comparison to the levels we reached during Euro 2016 was a massive backward step in my opinion. But of course, the stadium selection and Giggs' starting line up and tactics didn't help us one bit.
Bananas wrote:Just so detached from Wales and the supporters. Just go now.
Bluesman wrote:Was Gigs there. It was a friendly.
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