Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:03 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:10 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:12 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were.
If anyone hasnt seen the video, its pretty sick, a group burning an effigy of the grenfell tower while laughing and joking about it.
Theyve been arrested, a decisions which seems to be splitting opinion, dont agree with it myself however sick their supposed joke was.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:13 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were.
If anyone hasnt seen the video, its pretty sick, a group burning an effigy of the grenfell tower while laughing and joking about it.
Theyve been arrested, a decisions which seems to be splitting opinion, dont agree with it myself however sick their supposed joke was.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:51 pm
Jock wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were.
If anyone hasnt seen the video, its pretty sick, a group burning an effigy of the grenfell tower while laughing and joking about it.
Theyve been arrested, a decisions which seems to be splitting opinion, dont agree with it myself however sick their supposed joke was.
My problem with the whole taking offence thing is how selective people are about what offends them. I’ve saw comedians mock 9/11 and many of those taking offence to the Grenfell Tower thing would have laughed at that because it was in the States. Really don’t think it’s a police matter.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:52 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:02 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:13 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Jock wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were.
If anyone hasnt seen the video, its pretty sick, a group burning an effigy of the grenfell tower while laughing and joking about it.
Theyve been arrested, a decisions which seems to be splitting opinion, dont agree with it myself however sick their supposed joke was.
My problem with the whole taking offence thing is how selective people are about what offends them. I’ve saw comedians mock 9/11 and many of those taking offence to the Grenfell Tower thing would have laughed at that because it was in the States. Really don’t think it’s a police matter.
They could be done for inciting distress or hurt.Lets face it,if anyone on here had lost a loved one in that fire and came across these idiots how many could say they wouldn't wanna lamp them.Its worth noting though that that it may not be their actions but choosing to share it on the internet that gets them done.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:01 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Jock wrote:paulh_85 wrote:Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were.
If anyone hasnt seen the video, its pretty sick, a group burning an effigy of the grenfell tower while laughing and joking about it.
Theyve been arrested, a decisions which seems to be splitting opinion, dont agree with it myself however sick their supposed joke was.
My problem with the whole taking offence thing is how selective people are about what offends them. I’ve saw comedians mock 9/11 and many of those taking offence to the Grenfell Tower thing would have laughed at that because it was in the States. Really don’t think it’s a police matter.
They could be done for inciting distress or hurt.Lets face it,if anyone on here had lost a loved one in that fire and came across these idiots how many could say they wouldn't wanna lamp them.Its worth noting though that that it may not be their actions but choosing to share it on the internet that gets them done.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:39 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:12 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:27 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:38 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:39 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Was what they done sick ? Yes
Was what they done a police matter ? Definitely not never in a million years. Now the police are there to keep order ensure no one breaks the law etc etc. The Police are not the thought Police and that is setting a very dangerous precedent indeed. Who are they to decide what is offensive and what is not, who are they to decide what is funny and what is not. And who are they to decide what you can flaugh at and what is not ?
Sorry it’s the first step to the police running your every day lives. What one person finds offensive others couldn’t give a damn. But at the end of the day they Burnt a cardboard box and five people have been arrested for it. Whilst those that put up the cladding that led to the real fire have not had any charges there way.
No this is another step towards a dictatorship state that will tell you how you can live and what you can say or do.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:17 pm
Sneggyblubird wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Was what they done sick ? Yes
Was what they done a police matter ? Definitely not never in a million years. Now the police are there to keep order ensure no one breaks the law etc etc. The Police are not the thought Police and that is setting a very dangerous precedent indeed. Who are they to decide what is offensive and what is not, who are they to decide what is funny and what is not. And who are they to decide what you can flaugh at and what is not ?
Sorry it’s the first step to the police running your every day lives. What one person finds offensive others couldn’t give a damn. But at the end of the day they Burnt a cardboard box and five people have been arrested for it. Whilst those that put up the cladding that led to the real fire have not had any charges there way.
No this is another step towards a dictatorship state that will tell you how you can live and what you can say or do.
Don't buy this mate.They at least they had the good sense to hand themselves in, otherwise believe me they would have been found and had some sort summary justice dished on the spot.If the police had let this go it could have been far worse than it is.The internet has got alot to answer for.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:50 pm
paulh_85 wrote:Just wondering what peoples thoughts on this were.
If anyone hasnt seen the video, its pretty sick, a group burning an effigy of the grenfell tower while laughing and joking about it.
Theyve been arrested, a decisions which seems to be splitting opinion, dont agree with it myself however sick their supposed joke was.
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:27 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:33 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:33 pm
Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:07 pm
Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:52 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Was what they done sick ? Yes
Was what they done a police matter ? Definitely not never in a million years. Now the police are there to keep order ensure no one breaks the law etc etc. The Police are not the thought Police and that is setting a very dangerous precedent indeed. Who are they to decide what is offensive and what is not, who are they to decide what is funny and what is not. And who are they to decide what you can flaugh at and what is not ?
Sorry it’s the first step to the police running your every day lives. What one person finds offensive others couldn’t give a damn. But at the end of the day they Burnt a cardboard box and five people have been arrested for it. Whilst those that put up the cladding that led to the real fire have not had any charges there way.
No this is another step towards a dictatorship state that will tell you how you can live and what you can say or do.
Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:35 am
dogfound wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Was what they done sick ? Yes
Was what they done a police matter ? Definitely not never in a million years. Now the police are there to keep order ensure no one breaks the law etc etc. The Police are not the thought Police and that is setting a very dangerous precedent indeed. Who are they to decide what is offensive and what is not, who are they to decide what is funny and what is not. And who are they to decide what you can flaugh at and what is not ?
Sorry it’s the first step to the police running your every day lives. What one person finds offensive others couldn’t give a damn. But at the end of the day they Burnt a cardboard box and five people have been arrested for it. Whilst those that put up the cladding that led to the real fire have not had any charges there way.
No this is another step towards a dictatorship state that will tell you how you can live and what you can say or do.
mostly agree.
but not with your last line..its public reaction and over reaction to things posted on social media not any drive towards a dictatorship state in this case as with many others..
20 years ago the same incident would have remained with those present and might have been a tale to tell amongst mates..now someone whips a phone out and its national outrage which puts presure on politicians and our police..
Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:52 pm
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:38 pm
City Slicker wrote:Locking the twats up is too good for them. I'd round them up and hand them over to the Grenfell families to sort out. Evil shite
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:51 pm
Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:18 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:Bad taste for sure and they are a bit sick to even come up with the idea
However, it is a private party and as long as they are not physically hurting anyone I cannot see how it is anything other than a bunch of dopey bollocks not thinking through their actions
Prince Harry dressed as a Nazi !
You have to wonder who is recording what these days and what foolish thing could make you become the next youtube victim.
I think they should be talked to and that's it on this occasion
Wed Nov 07, 2018 9:44 pm
Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:48 pm
ealing_ayatollah wrote:Not a nice thing to do at all but also not a criminal offence as far as I can tell.
What did Anjem Choudary get for burning poppies something like a £50 fine under public order act or something along those lines and that was in public rather than a private garden (although it being put on youtube muddies the water somewhat I guess).
As someone else said in the thread being a prick isn't illegal (yet) so nothing to do with the police really as far as I'm concerned.
Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:31 am
SirJimmySchoular wrote:dogfound wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Was what they done sick ? Yes
Was what they done a police matter ? Definitely not never in a million years. Now the police are there to keep order ensure no one breaks the law etc etc. The Police are not the thought Police and that is setting a very dangerous precedent indeed. Who are they to decide what is offensive and what is not, who are they to decide what is funny and what is not. And who are they to decide what you can flaugh at and what is not ?
Sorry it’s the first step to the police running your every day lives. What one person finds offensive others couldn’t give a damn. But at the end of the day they Burnt a cardboard box and five people have been arrested for it. Whilst those that put up the cladding that led to the real fire have not had any charges there way.
No this is another step towards a dictatorship state that will tell you how you can live and what you can say or do.
mostly agree.
but not with your last line..its public reaction and over reaction to things posted on social media not any drive towards a dictatorship state in this case as with many others..
20 years ago the same incident would have remained with those present and might have been a tale to tell amongst mates..now someone whips a phone out and its national outrage which puts presure on politicians and our police..
I can't see that arresting people for making jokes which someone doesn't like is anything other than state tyrany.
It appears implicit in your statement that the legal establishment must act according to public opinion rather than laws and evidence - well, this is the one thing which no legal system should ever do ,or there is no point in its existence and we return to mob rule , lynchings and witch hunts.
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:07 am
Dahboy wrote:City Slicker wrote:Locking the twats up is too good for them. I'd round them up and hand them over to the Grenfell families to sort out. Evil shite
What a ridiculous statement you idiot.