Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:39 am
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:54 am
northernbluebird wrote:american owners know that in order to make money in this business you have to control your costs.
when done 'correctly' (note that excellent financial performance does not always mean excellent football results - see arsenal, man utd) , it results in huge payoffs. problem is that they expect swansea to fund itself, without putting in a penny in themselves. they are a small club, with modest support, in an economically depressed region, so good luck with that.
with attendances down this year by about 3000, that's about £1-1.5m less ticket receipts too.
diddums.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:58 am
CF31 Company wrote:I recall when they came down to play us it must have been one of the first championship derbys. And a lot of them had fake £ notes with Risdales head on them. They also took great delight by waving anything orange in the air following our play off defeat to Blackpool. So I have got any sympathy for them?
Well yes I have actually as I was brought up to to mock any body less fortunate than ourselves
UP THE CITY!
Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:23 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:CF31 Company wrote:I recall when they came down to play us it must have been one of the first championship derbys. And a lot of them had fake £ notes with Risdales head on them. They also took great delight by waving anything orange in the air following our play off defeat to Blackpool. So I have got any sympathy for them?
Well yes I have actually as I was brought up to to mock any body less fortunate than ourselves
UP THE CITY!
TBH if you can't take banter then you shouldn't give it. I don't blame the Jacks for taking the piss when we were on our knees but like you I have absolutely no sympathy for them now
Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:53 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:01 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:northernbluebird wrote:american owners know that in order to make money in this business you have to control your costs.
when done 'correctly' (note that excellent financial performance does not always mean excellent football results - see arsenal, man utd) , it results in huge payoffs. problem is that they expect swansea to fund itself, without putting in a penny in themselves. they are a small club, with modest support, in an economically depressed region, so good luck with that.
with attendances down this year by about 3000, that's about £1-1.5m less ticket receipts too.
diddums.
Well put. When we came down in 2014 there was massive cost cutting with numerous players leaving with contractual pay offs. It wasn't popular at the time and it took us years to recover and we still carry a legacy of debt from those days.
They have to learn there is no magic money tree outside of the Premier League and owners even if they wanted to can't bail clubs out anymore.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:30 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:52 pm
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:54 pm
maccydee wrote:300? Is that a real 300 or exaggerated like our 1500 who marched against Tan?
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:56 pm
nubbsy wrote:maccydee wrote:300? Is that a real 300 or exaggerated like our 1500 who marched against Tan?
I was there, there were thousands. It was against the rebrand, we stood up for our club whilst unfortunately many people including yourself rolled over.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:31 pm
northernbluebird wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:northernbluebird wrote:american owners know that in order to make money in this business you have to control your costs.
when done 'correctly' (note that excellent financial performance does not always mean excellent football results - see arsenal, man utd) , it results in huge payoffs. problem is that they expect swansea to fund itself, without putting in a penny in themselves. they are a small club, with modest support, in an economically depressed region, so good luck with that.
with attendances down this year by about 3000, that's about £1-1.5m less ticket receipts too.
diddums.
Well put. When we came down in 2014 there was massive cost cutting with numerous players leaving with contractual pay offs. It wasn't popular at the time and it took us years to recover and we still carry a legacy of debt from those days.
They have to learn there is no magic money tree outside of the Premier League and owners even if they wanted to can't bail clubs out anymore.
the problem is that in our case, we were heading for league 1 with the level of cost cutting. you have to spend money if you want to bounce back. operating on a championship budget in most cases means at best mid table, and at worst, relegation.
warnock managed to turn things around when he arrived and this has papered over the cracks. that's why in my view he is the best championship manager in history. when he leaves, my expectation is that the best we can hope for is mid table championship, if we operate on a similar budget to what warnock had in the championship.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:35 pm
maccydee wrote:nubbsy wrote:maccydee wrote:300? Is that a real 300 or exaggerated like our 1500 who marched against Tan?
I was there, there were thousands. It was against the rebrand, we stood up for our club whilst unfortunately many people including yourself rolled over.
Yep and thousands would never come again while Tan was owner.
Funny that.
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:13 pm
Wayne S wrote:Unfortunately for them, this season's crowds are artificially high as many of the season ticket holders would have bought while they still had a chance of survival.
Next season will show the real level of support and the Americans will again need to cut their cloth accordingly.
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:43 am
BiglicksMcGoo wrote:The Yank's must be terrified by the weight of numbers protesting right there, they'll surely give up on the millions still left to wring dry from Swansea Town now, that's for sure....
Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:18 pm
nubbsy wrote:maccydee wrote:300? Is that a real 300 or exaggerated like our 1500 who marched against Tan?
I was there, there were thousands. It was against the rebrand, we stood up for our club whilst unfortunately many people including yourself rolled over.