Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:48 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:52 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:00 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:02 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:02 pm
dogfound wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Wider problem i feel is players and managers getting involved with fans after a goal? They should stay on pitch not do what grealish just did go into crowd after scoring, result a villa fan was forcefully taken away by police!
players have ran to the fans forever,
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=ca ... &FORM=VIRE
not keen on knee jerk reactions that make it more and more sterilised.
was at the Den when a tw*t attacked Dwyer 40 odd years ago , its just the odd idiot.
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:24 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:25 pm
WelshPatriot wrote:I know I'm going back in time but the courts are a joke, am I to seriously believe that throwing a plastic police cone at opposition fans (Chelsea vs Cardiff) warrants a longer custodial sentence than a fan entering the field of play (illegal) and sucked punching a player from behind (assault).
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:27 pm
CityBlue93 wrote:actionman wrote:All jokes aside what if he had a knife.
'If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle' springs to mind
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:31 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:BluebirdForever wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:http://www.skysports.com/share/11660885
More of a slight shove really, but of course he went down as if he'd been shot - probably thinking a player had touched him and wanting a penalty .
You can't condone this sort of thing, but I must say ...if ever anyone wanted punching ....
You’d define that as a ‘slight shove’? When have you ever clenched your fist and swung your arm to ‘slightly shove’ anything?
Well when I was that age to be honest that would hardly have been considered a shove. Perhaps we could call it an attempted bitch slap ? There was no weight in it even if it'd connected.
I mean, as I said,we can't condone the behaviour but it wasn't exactly a vicious assault.
Since we're on the subject, I find it very very strange that young fit men on a football pitch go down when they get slightly touched - I know they're putting it on to try and get penalties and so on, but why does anyone, especially referees, take them seriously ?
You'd think a professional athlete would be able to take a bit of a knock without it effecting them much. Mind you, I did once hit Lou Macarri , ( after he tried to hit me by the way and not on a football field), and he did actually have the upper body strength of a girl, so maybe my assumption is wrong.
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:41 pm
dogfound wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:dogfound wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:BluebirdForever wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:http://www.skysports.com/share/11660885
More of a slight shove really, but of course he went down as if he'd been shot - probably thinking a player had touched him and wanting a penalty .
You can't condone this sort of thing, but I must say ...if ever anyone wanted punching ....
You’d define that as a ‘slight shove’? When have you ever clenched your fist and swung your arm to ‘slightly shove’ anything?
Well when I was that age to be honest that would hardly have been considered a shove. Perhaps we could call it an attempted bitch slap ? There was no weight in it even if it'd connected.
I mean, as I said,we can't condone the behaviour but it wasn't exactly a vicious assault.
Since we're on the subject, I find it very very strange that young fit men on a football pitch go down when they get slightly touched - I know they're putting it on to try and get penalties and so on, but why does anyone, especially referees, take them seriously ?
You'd think a professional athlete would be able to take a bit of a knock without it effecting them much. Mind you, I did once hit Lou Macarri , ( after he tried to hit me by the way and not on a football field), and he did actually have the upper body strength of a girl, so maybe my assumption is wrong.
was a cowardly punch from behind and Grealish was fortunate as intent was there. thats what it was called outside of your dream world 50 years ago and still today...
Well, there you go then. It's perhaps a matter of concern because the nutter got onto the field and it was therefore possible that a more serious assault could have happened . It wasn't in itself a serious assault though and if you think that was an act of serious violence you must have led a sheltered life, which I'm glad about. It wasn't a punch though, it was a flailing swing with no force and only the weight of his arm behind it - and it missed anyway !
That wouldn't have put a normal man down and I think Grealish thought another player had bumped into him and went into full drama mode. Again, I don't condone it because it's public disorder, but a nasty assault it wasn't .
nothing to do with sheltered lives { i know you like to deflect this at every opportunity to mask your own life in the basement } .but everything to do with intent and right and wrong which clearly you need outside influence to grasp.
Grealish was fortunate in that the idiots left arm actually makes contact first pushing him away from idiots right handed punch..
if you do not know anyone who has been seriously injured or worse by one of these cowardly attacks and have your news papers censored good for you.
but did this clown attack Grealish from behind with the intention of harm ? if yes its nasty..
Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:50 pm
Bluebina wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:BluebirdForever wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:http://www.skysports.com/share/11660885
More of a slight shove really, but of course he went down as if he'd been shot - probably thinking a player had touched him and wanting a penalty .
You can't condone this sort of thing, but I must say ...if ever anyone wanted punching ....
You’d define that as a ‘slight shove’? When have you ever clenched your fist and swung your arm to ‘slightly shove’ anything?
Well when I was that age to be honest that would hardly have been considered a shove. Perhaps we could call it an attempted bitch slap ? There was no weight in it even if it'd connected.
I mean, as I said,we can't condone the behaviour but it wasn't exactly a vicious assault.
Since we're on the subject, I find it very very strange that young fit men on a football pitch go down when they get slightly touched - I know they're putting it on to try and get penalties and so on, but why does anyone, especially referees, take them seriously ?
You'd think a professional athlete would be able to take a bit of a knock without it effecting them much. Mind you, I did once hit Lou Macarri , ( after he tried to hit me by the way and not on a football field), and he did actually have the upper body strength of a girl, so maybe my assumption is wrong.
I don't know, if he had caught him in the side of the jaw, when he didn't see it coming he could have done some damage and it would have been a shock, but he did go flying from the push, probably can't help it pre-programmed to go down like a sack of shit at the slightest touch.
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:31 pm
CityBlue93 wrote:paulh_85 wrote:CityBlue93 wrote:https://twitter.com/SkyFootball/status/1104717324622405637
Not really funny though is it
You're right, I wish Grealish a speedy recovery... Idiotic Brum fan coming on the pitch, swinging the worst timed arm flap I've ever seen at Grealish, nobody got hurt and the fan will rightly do time for it but not exactly something you can't joke about is it?
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:41 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:22 pm
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:26 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I am genuinely surprised by the leniency of the sentence. Not in anyway an expert (in anyway shape or form) but in my view this is far worse than having a pint in the Cornwall when fans hell bent on trouble attack you. But didn't those guys have some hefty sentences ?
Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:14 pm
AV3 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I am genuinely surprised by the leniency of the sentence. Not in anyway an expert (in anyway shape or form) but in my view this is far worse than having a pint in the Cornwall when fans hell bent on trouble attack you. But didn't those guys have some hefty sentences ?
& remember, some of the Villa fans sentenced went nowhere near the pub and still got 9 months.
I too am shocked at the leniency. The big difference is that because of the amount of people involved at the Cornwall, the police were able to charge with S2 violent disorder which is a very serious offence and almost always gets sent to a crown court to deal with. The pitch invader was only charged with pitch encroachment which is nothing and common assault which only carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. It is a worrying loophole because now every fan in the country knows that the sentence for attacking a player is likely to be a fraction of that imposed if you throw a bottle from 20 yards away in a street brawl.
That is why the sentence as so lenient.
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:23 am
AV3 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I am genuinely surprised by the leniency of the sentence. Not in anyway an expert (in anyway shape or form) but in my view this is far worse than having a pint in the Cornwall when fans hell bent on trouble attack you. But didn't those guys have some hefty sentences ?
& remember, some of the Villa fans sentenced went nowhere near the pub and still got 9 months.
I too am shocked at the leniency. The big difference is that because of the amount of people involved at the Cornwall, the police were able to charge with S2 violent disorder which is a very serious offence and almost always gets sent to a crown court to deal with. The pitch invader was only charged with pitch encroachment which is nothing and common assault which only carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. It is a worrying loophole because now every fan in the country knows that the sentence for attacking a player is likely to be a fraction of that imposed if you throw a bottle from 20 yards away in a street brawl.
That is why the sentence as so lenient.
Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:36 am
Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:32 pm
Alan_in_China wrote:AV3 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I am genuinely surprised by the leniency of the sentence. Not in anyway an expert (in anyway shape or form) but in my view this is far worse than having a pint in the Cornwall when fans hell bent on trouble attack you. But didn't those guys have some hefty sentences ?
& remember, some of the Villa fans sentenced went nowhere near the pub and still got 9 months.
I too am shocked at the leniency. The big difference is that because of the amount of people involved at the Cornwall, the police were able to charge with S2 violent disorder which is a very serious offence and almost always gets sent to a crown court to deal with. The pitch invader was only charged with pitch encroachment which is nothing and common assault which only carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. It is a worrying loophole because now every fan in the country knows that the sentence for attacking a player is likely to be a fraction of that imposed if you throw a bottle from 20 yards away in a street brawl.
That is why the sentence as so lenient.
Found a loophole, are you serious?
Are you really suggesting thugs are going to be thinking to themselves.. "Nah, I won't get involved in any tear up pre- or post-match, I'll invade the pitch on national TV and assault a player. I'll only go to prison, lose my job and shame my family in the process."
Yeah, I can see it catching on..
Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:53 am
AV3 wrote:Alan_in_China wrote:AV3 wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I am genuinely surprised by the leniency of the sentence. Not in anyway an expert (in anyway shape or form) but in my view this is far worse than having a pint in the Cornwall when fans hell bent on trouble attack you. But didn't those guys have some hefty sentences ?
& remember, some of the Villa fans sentenced went nowhere near the pub and still got 9 months.
I too am shocked at the leniency. The big difference is that because of the amount of people involved at the Cornwall, the police were able to charge with S2 violent disorder which is a very serious offence and almost always gets sent to a crown court to deal with. The pitch invader was only charged with pitch encroachment which is nothing and common assault which only carries a maximum sentence of 6 months. It is a worrying loophole because now every fan in the country knows that the sentence for attacking a player is likely to be a fraction of that imposed if you throw a bottle from 20 yards away in a street brawl.
That is why the sentence as so lenient.
Found a loophole, are you serious?
Are you really suggesting thugs are going to be thinking to themselves.. "Nah, I won't get involved in any tear up pre- or post-match, I'll invade the pitch on national TV and assault a player. I'll only go to prison, lose my job and shame my family in the process."
Yeah, I can see it catching on..
I'm suggesting that there is a possibility.
Many people who are involved in this stuff are people who are desperate to prove themselves. I know because I used to be one of them many years ago. It is a lot easier to run onto a pitch & judas a player from behind than it is to stand on in a street brawl where the numbers are equal or even against you and you don't know what the bloke in front on either side of you is going to do because you are focusing on the bloke directly in front of you.
For anyone who wants to make a name for themselves, they will now realise that the consequences are far less for doing what happened on Sunday. And I don't mean losing a job, shaming a family either because you might be surprised to learn that some people don't care about that. I'd wager that the selfish little shit on Sunday didn't care twopence about his crummy job or his pregnant wife - He wanted the "glory" and nothing else mattered to him.