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2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.
Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:51 pm
thomasblue wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.
Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.
Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now
Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:08 pm
Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.
Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.
Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now
Sam certainly started it but I'm not sure Sam tried to finish it as well!
What he did do was rejuvenate a club and its fanbase that was slowly ebbing away. He united the club, the team, the supporters, large parts of the wider community and also many in the political arena
As a long-standing supporter, I can tell you Sam provided some of the best supporter memories at the club (Leeds Utd in the FA Cup amongst them) and he had a charisma that carried him along for some time
That he fell short in the end was not all his doing (there are those who know the real story) but his fall was certainly without grace
Overall, I view Sam's time here with mixed emotions; one one side he was the charismatic and able owner we had yearned for so many years, whilst on the other he didn't know when his time was up (something of a trait of many of his ilk)
One thing is for certain; I honestly believe this club would not be where it is today had he not arrived back in the day and for that reason alone I will view Sam with more fondness than sadness
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Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:47 pm
Sven wrote:thomasblue wrote:2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.
Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.
Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now
Sam certainly started it but I'm not sure Sam tried to finish it as well!
What he did do was rejuvenate a club and its fanbase that was slowly ebbing away. He united the club, the team, the supporters, large parts of the wider community and also many in the political arena
As a long-standing supporter, I can tell you Sam provided some of the best supporter memories at the club (Leeds Utd in the FA Cup amongst them) and he had a charisma that carried him along for some time
That he fell short in the end was not all his doing (there are those who know the real story) but his fall was certainly without grace
Overall, I view Sam's time here with mixed emotions; one one side he was the charismatic and able owner we had yearned for so many years, whilst on the other he didn't know when his time was up (something of a trait of many of his ilk)
One thing is for certain; I honestly believe this club would not be where it is today had he not arrived back in the day and for that reason alone I will view Sam with more fondness than sadness
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:49 pm
Chris Holmes wrote:Great pictures and great posts...19 years on the rollercoaster with those two owners, mostly fun and mostly success.
Made up for Dungeon Days. Gone, but never forgotten.
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valleyrambill wrote:I don't know what happened but I felt Sam was angry not at the club but the crook Ridsdale who Sam brought in to help him then stabbed Sam in the back.
Lets not forget Ridsdale stabbed every supporter who bought a season ticket early so City could buy players this didn't happen actually bills was not even paid and we nearly went out of business because of a tax bill was not paid.
Strange Ridsdale got a new Audi that was the only thing I seen bought at the time
I remember the bad times and when Sam took us over we started buying players and going places my son who was 7 started coming to the games and Sam was always great with the youngsters and I remember the excitement of Kav and Thorne being bought and the play off final against QPR feeling emotional as I never thought I would see so many people supporting Cardiff City.
So I have fond memories of Sam and so does my son who is 24 and still has a hand written letter from Sam it was sad how it all ended for him and I think he was heart broken too unlike Ridadale who just caused chaos at every club he been too and made lots of money so I believe there is a lot more that happened we don't know about