Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:19 pm
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:29 pm
Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:34 am
Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:52 am
RV Casual wrote:Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Stop talking shit. The dip started under Coleman.
Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:57 am
BackToTheFuture wrote:RV Casual wrote:Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Stop talking shit. The dip started under Coleman.
Are you serious? Wales had lost 2 of its previous 12 games prior to Coleman stepping down. One of those was away to France . Prior to those 12 matches was making the Semi Finals of the Euros.
Since Giggs took over we have lost 6 of 14 including against the mighty Albania.
Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:25 am
RV Casual wrote:BackToTheFuture wrote:RV Casual wrote:Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Stop talking shit. The dip started under Coleman.
Are you serious? Wales had lost 2 of its previous 12 games prior to Coleman stepping down. One of those was away to France . Prior to those 12 matches was making the Semi Finals of the Euros.
Since Giggs took over we have lost 6 of 14 including against the mighty Albania.
Yep, I'm deadly serious, and right.
The 'DIP' as your'e fellow jack/second log in (whatever it maybe) called it started under Coleman, an undeniable fact widely accepted by Welsh fans who actually follow the team.
Coleman achived good things with Wales but let himself down at the end and cost us our best chance of qualifying for a World Cup since 1958 with his negative tactics.
The results and performances towards the end of his reign were nothing short of abysmal, scraping past Georgia and Moldova and culminating in that shocking defeat at home to an at the time poor ROI to cost us a play off place.
The record is masked by 5 shocking draws, one of which was against Georgia who by the way are even less mighty than Albania who actually qualified for the last Euros.
Yep. The dip deinitly started under Coleman.
Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:58 am
RV Casual wrote:
Yep, I'm deadly serious, and right.
The 'DIP' as your'e fellow jack/second log in (whatever it maybe) called it started under Coleman, an undeniable fact widely accepted by Welsh fans who actually follow the team.
Coleman achived good things with Wales but let himself down at the end and cost us our best chance of qualifying for a World Cup since 1958 with his negative tactics.
The results and performances towards the end of his reign were nothing short of abysmal, scraping past Georgia and Moldova and culminating in that shocking defeat at home to an at the time poor ROI to cost us a play off place.
The record is masked by 5 shocking draws, one of which was against Georgia who by the way are even less mighty than Albania who actually qualified for the last Euros.
Yep. The dip deinitly started under Coleman.
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:10 am
pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:BackToTheFuture wrote:RV Casual wrote:Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Stop talking shit. The dip started under Coleman.
Are you serious? Wales had lost 2 of its previous 12 games prior to Coleman stepping down. One of those was away to France . Prior to those 12 matches was making the Semi Finals of the Euros.
Since Giggs took over we have lost 6 of 14 including against the mighty Albania.
Yep, I'm deadly serious, and right.
The 'DIP' as your'e fellow jack/second log in (whatever it maybe) called it started under Coleman, an undeniable fact widely accepted by Welsh fans who actually follow the team.
Coleman achived good things with Wales but let himself down at the end and cost us our best chance of qualifying for a World Cup since 1958 with his negative tactics.
The results and performances towards the end of his reign were nothing short of abysmal, scraping past Georgia and Moldova and culminating in that shocking defeat at home to an at the time poor ROI to cost us a play off place.
The record is masked by 5 shocking draws, one of which was against Georgia who by the way are even less mighty than Albania who actually qualified for the last Euros.
Yep. The dip deinitly started under Coleman.
Rv it's been said on here before about Coleman's tactics costing us this is a case of looking at stats and using them to make an opposite argument again! Performances under Coleman were nearly as dire as last night and he did cost us against Ireland? Half the time he played bale holding midfield passing to a left back playing left wing!!
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:16 am
RV Casual wrote:
Colemans even admitted it mate, let the Jack spout his usual bullshit, he is clearly clueless on all things Wales.
I went to a Q&A with Coleman just after he took the Sunderland job and still turned up even though he didn't need to. He is a decent man to be fair to him, he admitted he had made mistakes during the campaign and that a fresh start was needed for both sides.
It was our best chance to qualify for the World Cup since 58, no ifs or butt's about it and the DIP set on his watch.
Just look at the Jack's comments below to show the mark of the man.
I'v followed Wales home and away for 30 years mainly through absolute dross you can only laugh at him.
His multi started the thread claiming the Dip started under Giggs when you would have to be living with you're head in the sand not to concede it actualy started long before but let him crack on, cuckoo, cuckoo. Lol.
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:19 am
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:25 am
RV Casual wrote:He doesn't do insults look.
New fan, paranoid lol #rattled
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:26 am
RV Casual wrote:pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:BackToTheFuture wrote:RV Casual wrote:Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Stop talking shit. The dip started under Coleman.
Are you serious? Wales had lost 2 of its previous 12 games prior to Coleman stepping down. One of those was away to France . Prior to those 12 matches was making the Semi Finals of the Euros.
Since Giggs took over we have lost 6 of 14 including against the mighty Albania.
Yep, I'm deadly serious, and right.
The 'DIP' as your'e fellow jack/second log in (whatever it maybe) called it started under Coleman, an undeniable fact widely accepted by Welsh fans who actually follow the team.
Coleman achived good things with Wales but let himself down at the end and cost us our best chance of qualifying for a World Cup since 1958 with his negative tactics.
The results and performances towards the end of his reign were nothing short of abysmal, scraping past Georgia and Moldova and culminating in that shocking defeat at home to an at the time poor ROI to cost us a play off place.
The record is masked by 5 shocking draws, one of which was against Georgia who by the way are even less mighty than Albania who actually qualified for the last Euros.
Yep. The dip deinitly started under Coleman.
Rv it's been said on here before about Coleman's tactics costing us this is a case of looking at stats and using them to make an opposite argument again! Performances under Coleman were nearly as dire as last night and he did cost us against Ireland? Half the time he played bale holding midfield passing to a left back playing left wing!!
Colemans even admitted it mate, let the Jack spout his usual bullshit, he is clearly clueless on all things Wales.
I went to a Q&A with Coleman just after he took the Sunderland job and still turned up even though he didn't need to. He is a decent man to be fair to him, he admitted he had made mistakes during the campaign and that a fresh start was needed for both sides.
It was our best chance to qualify for the World Cup since 58, no ifs or butt's about it and the DIP set on his watch.
Just look at the Jack's comments below to show the mark of the man.
I'v followed Wales home and away for 30 years mainly through absolute dross you can only laugh at him.
His multi started the thread claiming the Dip started under Giggs when you would have to be living with you're head in the sand not to concede it actualy started long before but let him crack on, cuckoo, cuckoo. Lol.
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:29 am
pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:pembroke allan wrote:RV Casual wrote:BackToTheFuture wrote:RV Casual wrote:Northern Blue wrote:Needs to go the dip since Coleman left is a joke
Stop talking shit. The dip started under Coleman.
Are you serious? Wales had lost 2 of its previous 12 games prior to Coleman stepping down. One of those was away to France . Prior to those 12 matches was making the Semi Finals of the Euros.
Since Giggs took over we have lost 6 of 14 including against the mighty Albania.
Yep, I'm deadly serious, and right.
The 'DIP' as your'e fellow jack/second log in (whatever it maybe) called it started under Coleman, an undeniable fact widely accepted by Welsh fans who actually follow the team.
Coleman achived good things with Wales but let himself down at the end and cost us our best chance of qualifying for a World Cup since 1958 with his negative tactics.
The results and performances towards the end of his reign were nothing short of abysmal, scraping past Georgia and Moldova and culminating in that shocking defeat at home to an at the time poor ROI to cost us a play off place.
The record is masked by 5 shocking draws, one of which was against Georgia who by the way are even less mighty than Albania who actually qualified for the last Euros.
Yep. The dip deinitly started under Coleman.
Rv it's been said on here before about Coleman's tactics costing us this is a case of looking at stats and using them to make an opposite argument again! Performances under Coleman were nearly as dire as last night and he did cost us against Ireland? Half the time he played bale holding midfield passing to a left back playing left wing!!
Colemans even admitted it mate, let the Jack spout his usual bullshit, he is clearly clueless on all things Wales.
I went to a Q&A with Coleman just after he took the Sunderland job and still turned up even though he didn't need to. He is a decent man to be fair to him, he admitted he had made mistakes during the campaign and that a fresh start was needed for both sides.
It was our best chance to qualify for the World Cup since 58, no ifs or butt's about it and the DIP set on his watch.
Just look at the Jack's comments below to show the mark of the man.
I'v followed Wales home and away for 30 years mainly through absolute dross you can only laugh at him.
His multi started the thread claiming the Dip started under Giggs when you would have to be living with you're head in the sand not to concede it actualy started long before but let him crack on, cuckoo, cuckoo. Lol.
Giggs inherited a team of youngsters who had little experience at any level never mind international! Coleman had the experienced players but like Hughes failed in his tactics to get us to world cup when one game away because of his defensive mindset.... no disputing best times under Coleman but doesnt hide fact we were struggling in his latter time in charge? (Results hide the performances over qualification) bit like last night! Why otherwise would he give up the talent we have now for a car crash in Sunderland ?
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:30 am
pembroke allan wrote:
Giggs inherited a team of youngsters who had little experience at any level never mind international! Coleman had the experienced players but like Hughes failed in his tactics to get us to world cup when one game away because of his defensive mindset.... no disputing best times under Coleman but doesnt hide fact we were struggling in his latter time in charge? (Results hide the performances over qualification) bit like last night! Why otherwise would he give up the talent we have now for a car crash in Sunderland ?
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:31 am
RV Casual wrote:
We are all wrong new fans though mate, the oracle has spoken
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:33 am
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:36 pm
Dazzy wrote:Saved out of the poop by Bale. How come - with so much quality - has it stooped to this!! Embarrassing!!!!!
I’ve never rated Giggs as a manager (or person for that matter) but obv rated him in the EPL
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:42 pm
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:53 pm
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:57 pm
2blue2handle wrote:Finisher 1-1 makes our 2-1 even better.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:53 pm
pembroke allan wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Finisher 1-1 makes our 2-1 even better.
It does and most open group in euros
Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:05 pm
RV Casual wrote:I don't need to prove anything to anyone, least of all you.
99.9% certain anyone who's followed Wales will agree our Dip on form started UNDER COLEMAN, you can't re-write history no matter how much you justify it in youre own head.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:50 pm
derbyram wrote:RV Casual wrote:I don't need to prove anything to anyone, least of all you.
99.9% certain anyone who's followed Wales will agree our Dip on form started UNDER COLEMAN, you can't re-write history no matter how much you justify it in youre own head.
I’m only posting this again due to the last one being bizarrely deleted, but In the 12 matches prior to Coleman leaving, we won 4, drew 6 and lost 2 (one of those defeats against France away in a friendly). The 10 matches before that we lost 5 of them, that includes spanning right through the Euros.
The 12 matches Coleman was in charge of which followed the Euros was probably one of the best set of 12 results in decades.
As you say, you can’t re-write history.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:00 pm
pembroke allan wrote:
can win 12 games in a row but doesnt mean we played well in them al because we did not play well and the football was not brilliant towards end of Colemans time bit like Fridays performance? It's a result led business and no doubt stats tell you we had best results in years but stats don't tell you whole picture thats for sure....
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:30 am
derbyram wrote:pembroke allan wrote:
can win 12 games in a row but doesnt mean we played well in them al because we did not play well and the football was not brilliant towards end of Colemans time bit like Fridays performance? It's a result led business and no doubt stats tell you we had best results in years but stats don't tell you whole picture thats for sure....
We played fine. Much better than when Giggs took over.
We were never going to replicate the performances during the Euros and that be our base level, was just a special moment in time. But to say we had a dip which is contributing to the poor performances of late is just incorrect, because we didn't really have any noteworthy dip under Coleman - far from it.
Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:55 am
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:06 am
RV Casual wrote:derbyram wrote:pembroke allan wrote:
can win 12 games in a row but doesnt mean we played well in them al because we did not play well and the football was not brilliant towards end of Colemans time bit like Fridays performance? It's a result led business and no doubt stats tell you we had best results in years but stats don't tell you whole picture thats for sure....
We played fine. Much better than when Giggs took over.
We were never going to replicate the performances during the Euros and that be our base level, was just a special moment in time. But to say we had a dip which is contributing to the poor performances of late is just incorrect, because we didn't really have any noteworthy dip under Coleman - far from it.
We had a dip in form under Coleman before the Euros, something he admitted.
Then our form picked up winning 4 out of 6 in the Euros with some exceptional performances (I was at the Russia Game in Toulouse) which was outstanding.
Then we started the WC Qualifiers with a 4-0 win before going on an run of 5 draws putting in some absolutely shocking performances with negative tactics, that is
what you call a dip in form my friend when the performances dip to below what they were previously, that started under Coleman, those are the facts.
This is why you will ever be accepted on this board as you are unable to accept another point of view even when it is blue in the face. You would rather argue the toss even when you're wrong in search for 'bites'.
It's beyond weired. Just let it go.
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:16 am
epping blue wrote:I rank the failure to qualify for Russia as up there with biggest disappointments of the last 50 years. We'll never get a better chance to qualify for a world cup. Azerbaijan looked good against Croatia to be fair but worryingly the away end looks tiny. There's 8 in my party going all along way down the priority ladder. Its going to be an awfully long trip to watch the game in a bar. Did it in Budapest and didn't enjoy it.
Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:22 am
RV Casual wrote:epping blue wrote:I rank the failure to qualify for Russia as up there with biggest disappointments of the last 50 years. We'll never get a better chance to qualify for a world cup. Azerbaijan looked good against Croatia to be fair but worryingly the away end looks tiny. There's 8 in my party going all along way down the priority ladder. Its going to be an awfully long trip to watch the game in a bar. Did it in Budapest and didn't enjoy it.
Correct mate, the dip in form after the Moldova game and the 5 draws was what cost us big time.
The home draw against Georgia was shocking taking the lead twice against Austria and not seeing it through equally as disappointing as was conceding against Serbia at home in the 85th minute who were awfull. The tactics in the other games were dreadful and for all the good Coleman did I agree with you that failure to get to Russia is up there considering the quality of the group.
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:33 am
epping blue wrote:I rank the failure to qualify for Russia as up there with biggest disappointments of the last 50 years. We'll never get a better chance to qualify for a world cup. Azerbaijan looked good against Croatia to be fair but worryingly the away end looks tiny. There's 8 in my party going all along way down the priority ladder. Its going to be an awfully long trip to watch the game in a bar. Did it in Budapest and didn't enjoy it.