Sun Sep 08, 2019 10:17 am
Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:00 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Anybody know where i can find a list of Brexit Party candidates for Cardiff? Tried their website but can't find the list.
Want to try unseating Labour's Kevin Brennan from his Cardiff West seat. He's voted to block brexit all the way.
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:04 pm
BlueGog wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Anybody know where i can find a list of Brexit Party candidates for Cardiff? Tried their website but can't find the list.
Want to try unseating Labour's Kevin Brennan from his Cardiff West seat. He's voted to block brexit all the way.
Why would a Welshman want to vote for what is an English Nationalist party regardless of Brexit. Would the Brexit Party stand up for Wales? You’re having a laugh
Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:36 pm
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:14 am
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:37 am
welshrarebit wrote:That's a deft response. A lot of people aren't so tribal and are happy being British. Furthermore there are, believe it or not, people that want Brexit to happen. What they going to do? Vote plaid??
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:09 am
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:14 am
BlueGog wrote:welshrarebit wrote:That's a deft response. A lot of people aren't so tribal and are happy being British. Furthermore there are, believe it or not, people that want Brexit to happen. What they going to do? Vote plaid??
I agree with you, but as Eddie Butler (of English parents) told the thousands at Merthyr on Saturday "that Britain that his parents believed in doesn't exist any more." It's now all about England isn't it?
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:48 am
BlueGog wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Anybody know where i can find a list of Brexit Party candidates for Cardiff? Tried their website but can't find the list.
Want to try unseating Labour's Kevin Brennan from his Cardiff West seat. He's voted to block brexit all the way.
Why would a Welshman want to vote for what is an English Nationalist party regardless of Brexit. Would the Brexit Party stand up for Wales? You’re having a laugh
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:52 am
Wayne S wrote:You've got more chance unseating him by voting Conservative and even then you probably wont get within 7,000 votes of him.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:05 am
welshrarebit wrote:That's a deft response. A lot of people aren't so tribal and are happy being British. Furthermore there are, believe it or not, people that want Brexit to happen. What they going to do? Vote plaid??
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:30 am
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Wayne S wrote:You've got more chance unseating him by voting Conservative and even then you probably wont get within 7,000 votes of him.
You never know, we are living in turbulent political times.
I heard he's a millionaire living in a massive house, typical "socialist"
Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:33 am
moonboots wrote:welshrarebit wrote:That's a deft response. A lot of people aren't so tribal and are happy being British. Furthermore there are, believe it or not, people that want Brexit to happen. What they going to do? Vote plaid??
Not so daft. Let's face it large tracts of Wales have been anglicised and the lines between Britishness and Englishness are blurred. It is very easy for some people to confuse the two. British TV is overwhelmingly English TV and British news is almost totally English news. Large parts of the population don't think too deeply about such issues, many take things on face value, so it's easy to see how it's possible for some to have confused identities and that could be an explanation for how so many Welsh people (and Wales is historically socialist country) could possibly vote for a right wing English party.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:05 am
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Wales is a Brexit country.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:20 am
ElyBoy1984 wrote:moonboots wrote:welshrarebit wrote:That's a deft response. A lot of people aren't so tribal and are happy being British. Furthermore there are, believe it or not, people that want Brexit to happen. What they going to do? Vote plaid??
Not so daft. Let's face it large tracts of Wales have been anglicised and the lines between Britishness and Englishness are blurred. It is very easy for some people to confuse the two. British TV is overwhelmingly English TV and British news is almost totally English news. Large parts of the population don't think too deeply about such issues, many take things on face value, so it's easy to see how it's possible for some to have confused identities and that could be an explanation for how so many Welsh people (and Wales is historically socialist country) could possibly vote for a right wing English party.
Wales is a Brexit country.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:18 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:BlueGog wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Anybody know where i can find a list of Brexit Party candidates for Cardiff? Tried their website but can't find the list.
Want to try unseating Labour's Kevin Brennan from his Cardiff West seat. He's voted to block brexit all the way.
Why would a Welshman want to vote for what is an English Nationalist party regardless of Brexit. Would the Brexit Party stand up for Wales? You’re having a laugh
It's not the English nationalist party. Lol it's a party in favour of national sovereignty.
The EU has a plaque up at the European Parliament's Visitor Centre which states: '...national sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our time…........
Why would a Welsh man vote for mass immigration enforced on them by globalists in Brussels?
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:14 pm
BlueGog wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:BlueGog wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Anybody know where i can find a list of Brexit Party candidates for Cardiff? Tried their website but can't find the list.
Want to try unseating Labour's Kevin Brennan from his Cardiff West seat. He's voted to block brexit all the way.
Why would a Welshman want to vote for what is an English Nationalist party regardless of Brexit. Would the Brexit Party stand up for Wales? You’re having a laugh
It's not the English nationalist party. Lol it's a party in favour of national sovereignty.
The EU has a plaque up at the European Parliament's Visitor Centre which states: '...national sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our time…........
Why would a Welsh man vote for mass immigration enforced on them by globalists in Brussels?
Have you been there to see it or did you read it somewhere?
As if obvious now Brexit is all about English nationalism, sovereignty, 'getting our country back' etc etc.
Brexit won't stop immigration from outside the EU and that's the problem and expect more when if we set up trade deals.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:14 pm
Wayne S wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Wales is a Brexit country.
But Cardiff was remain which is why the foothold you are looking for in the city will be hard to come by.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:15 pm
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:26 pm
Wayne S wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Wales is a Brexit country.
But Cardiff was remain which is why the foothold you are looking for in the city will be hard to come by.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:28 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Immigration will be controlled by "our" parliament after Brexit. We then get the immigration policy that we vote for.
Mass immigration won't be imposed on us by globalists in Brussels, who want nothing more than cheap labour or even something more sinister.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:31 pm
Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:50 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:BlueGog wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Anybody know where i can find a list of Brexit Party candidates for Cardiff? Tried their website but can't find the list.
Want to try unseating Labour's Kevin Brennan from his Cardiff West seat. He's voted to block brexit all the way.
Why would a Welshman want to vote for what is an English Nationalist party regardless of Brexit. Would the Brexit Party stand up for Wales? You’re having a laugh
It's not the English nationalist party. Lol it's a party in favour of national sovereignty.
The EU has a plaque up at the European Parliament's Visitor Centre which states: '...national sovereignty is the root cause of the most crying evils of our time…........
Why would a Welsh man vote for mass immigration enforced on them by globalists in Brussels?
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:02 pm
Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:15 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Immigration will be controlled by "our" parliament after Brexit. We then get the immigration policy that we vote for.
Mass immigration won't be imposed on us by globalists in Brussels, who want nothing more than cheap labour or even something more sinister.
http://lawyers-inforbritain.uk/b-m-a/ca ... in-the-eu/
Hooray!!! We can now do something we already could do but choose not to!
Although I am interested into what you think the 'sinister' thing is
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:36 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Wayne S wrote:You've got more chance unseating him by voting Conservative and even then you probably wont get within 7,000 votes of him.
You never know, we are living in turbulent political times.
I heard he's a millionaire living in a massive house, typical "socialist"
Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:39 pm
Wayne S wrote:ElyBoy1984 wrote:Wales is a Brexit country.
But Cardiff was remain which is why the foothold you are looking for in the city will be hard to come by.
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:41 pm
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:44 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:moonboots wrote:welshrarebit wrote:That's a deft response. A lot of people aren't so tribal and are happy being British. Furthermore there are, believe it or not, people that want Brexit to happen. What they going to do? Vote plaid??
Not so daft. Let's face it large tracts of Wales have been anglicised and the lines between Britishness and Englishness are blurred. It is very easy for some people to confuse the two. British TV is overwhelmingly English TV and British news is almost totally English news. Large parts of the population don't think too deeply about such issues, many take things on face value, so it's easy to see how it's possible for some to have confused identities and that could be an explanation for how so many Welsh people (and Wales is historically socialist country) could possibly vote for a right wing English party.
Wales is a Brexit country.
Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:53 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:Welsh independence will never happen.
We are either governed by London, where politicians are more scrutinised, accountable and transparent.
Or by Brussels where national identity is a hinderance to their over arching programme.
Wales has a better chance in Britain free of the E.U.