Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:35 am
pembroke allan wrote:Its getting a joke now Scots judges ruling prolouging is unlawful because boris as ulterior motive in their view? Yet this procedure as been and is part of parliamentary workings for time immemorial! this now opens it to be challenged whenever anyone doesn't want it done in future, and politicians against brexit says done it because they cannot represent their constituents in parliament? Ffs they are happy to ignore their constituents who voted leave hypocrites the lot of them ....
Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:39 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:01 am
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:17 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:Stan_B wrote:Stevejonesfrom62 wrote:The eu hasnt beebn disatrous for wales has it
The EU is the equivalent of someone dropping a fiver on the floor, you pick it up while that person lifts your wallet.
Just Google how many businesses have left this country for Eastern Europe with EU grants. The EU has been shafting us like this for many years only people like you cant see it - you only see the grants they give us which are peanuts!
Jesus,really.While your at it just google the number of British firms that voluntarily outsource their manufacturing to India,China etc.New school uniform for your kids?Highly likely these were made in an Indian Sweatshop by young women that never had the chance of school.
Anyone can have an opinion and google something to back it up.Quoting a very small part of a huge subject is pants.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:57 pm
Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:50 pm
Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:56 pm
epping blue wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
Hugely undemocratic in terms of representation. My vote is worth half that of an Irish voter and a tenth of that given to someone from Luxembourg.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:19 pm
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:37 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:epping blue wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
Hugely undemocratic in terms of representation. My vote is worth half that of an Irish voter and a tenth of that given to someone from Luxembourg.
That wouldn't make it undemocratic because you're still represented
But if it was done on size then the small countries wouldn't have a say and it'd just be the biggest populations with all the decisions.
If all the championship clubs were asked to vote on something (VAR for instance) should Leeds get a bigger say because they have the largest attendance and whoever has the smallest attendance only get half a vote?
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:38 pm
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Stevejonesfrom62 wrote:Do voters from Luxemburg have 10 times as much say as the people of Germany france holland etc i think not so why 10 times more than the uk please explain
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:58 pm
epping blue wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:epping blue wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
Hugely undemocratic in terms of representation. My vote is worth half that of an Irish voter and a tenth of that given to someone from Luxembourg.
That wouldn't make it undemocratic because you're still represented
But if it was done on size then the small countries wouldn't have a say and it'd just be the biggest populations with all the decisions.
If all the championship clubs were asked to vote on something (VAR for instance) should Leeds get a bigger say because they have the largest attendance and whoever has the smallest attendance only get half a vote?
Nonsense comparison. Clubs have an equal share in the competition, their size of following is irrelevant. Why should voters from Luxembourg etc have 10x more influence than voters from the UK.
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:21 pm
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:35 pm
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:18 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
I think it's as democratic as our parliamentary system (not at the moment though obviously) and so I'd say broadly yes to your question.
Will my question be answered? Probably not
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:22 pm
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:33 pm
Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
I think it's as democratic as our parliamentary system (not at the moment though obviously) and so I'd say broadly yes to your question.
Will my question be answered? Probably not
I don’t recall getting a vote on Von der Leyen becoming head gravy train driver. Or Junker, Verhostadt, Barnier, Tusk etc etc etc
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:12 pm
Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
I think it's as democratic as our parliamentary system (not at the moment though obviously) and so I'd say broadly yes to your question.
Will my question be answered? Probably not
I don’t recall getting a vote on Von der Leyen becoming head gravy train driver. Or Junker, Verhostadt, Barnier, Tusk etc etc etc
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:25 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
I think it's as democratic as our parliamentary system (not at the moment though obviously) and so I'd say broadly yes to your question.
Will my question be answered? Probably not
I don’t recall getting a vote on Von der Leyen becoming head gravy train driver. Or Junker, Verhostadt, Barnier, Tusk etc etc etc
And I don't recall getting a vote on the house of lords, and I don't recall over 99% of us getting a vote on Boris Johnson becoming 'head gravy train rider.' That's why I put it as democratic as the uk
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:32 pm
Stevejonesfrom62 wrote:So glas ru suggesting the massive powers of Luxemburg malta etc are ruling the eu over us minnows i.e uk germany france spain italy netherlands lol
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:34 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
I think it's as democratic as our parliamentary system (not at the moment though obviously) and so I'd say broadly yes to your question.
Will my question be answered? Probably not
I don’t recall getting a vote on Von der Leyen becoming head gravy train driver. Or Junker, Verhostadt, Barnier, Tusk etc etc etc
And I don't recall getting a vote on the house of lords, and I don't recall over 99% of us getting a vote on Boris Johnson becoming 'head gravy train rider.' That's why I put it as democratic as the uk
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:40 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Indulge me, do you think the E.U. is a democratic organisation? Bearing in mind we’re not as clever as yourself can you manage a yes or no answer.
I think it's as democratic as our parliamentary system (not at the moment though obviously) and so I'd say broadly yes to your question.
Will my question be answered? Probably not
I don’t recall getting a vote on Von der Leyen becoming head gravy train driver. Or Junker, Verhostadt, Barnier, Tusk etc etc etc
And I don't recall getting a vote on the house of lords, and I don't recall over 99% of us getting a vote on Boris Johnson becoming 'head gravy train rider.' That's why I put it as democratic as the uk
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:09 pm
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:18 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:Suspension Unlawful - More Mess - More Time wasted !!!
Get on with your jobs - what your paid to do !!!
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:26 pm
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Suspension Unlawful - More Mess - More Time wasted !!!
Get on with your jobs - what your paid to do !!!
What puzzles me us how can two courts have different ideas on subject? 1st one said matter for parliament not judges as it concerns gvmnt protocol ! Yet 2nd one says boris was using it to stop MPs debating brexit? The same information was available on both occasions so was 2nd lot pro remain while 1st was brexiteers ?
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:12 am
TopCat CCFC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Suspension Unlawful - More Mess - More Time wasted !!!
Get on with your jobs - what your paid to do !!!
What puzzles me us how can two courts have different ideas on subject? 1st one said matter for parliament not judges as it concerns gvmnt protocol ! Yet 2nd one says boris was using it to stop MPs debating brexit? The same information was available on both occasions so was 2nd lot pro remain while 1st was brexiteers ?
Beats Me - what is going on mate ,We might have the best of 3 soon to sort it out !!
All i am saying is they should be in work sorting this mess out .
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:22 am
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Suspension Unlawful - More Mess - More Time wasted !!!
Get on with your jobs - what your paid to do !!!
What puzzles me us how can two courts have different ideas on subject? 1st one said matter for parliament not judges as it concerns gvmnt protocol ! Yet 2nd one says boris was using it to stop MPs debating brexit? The same information was available on both occasions so was 2nd lot pro remain while 1st was brexiteers ?
Beats Me - what is going on mate ,We might have the best of 3 soon to sort it out !!
All i am saying is they should be in work sorting this mess out .
3 yrs to sort it out and still failed! What is point of extension to brexit when we know full well labour and others don't want Brexit and nothing will change even if get deal garauntee remain MPs will reject it? Now they force boris to publish yellow hammer just to force him to recall parliament for things that have been in public domain for a year or more total waste of time and scare mongering, all as been highlighted by remain after leave was announced....
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:48 am
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Suspension Unlawful - More Mess - More Time wasted !!!
Get on with your jobs - what your paid to do !!!
What puzzles me us how can two courts have different ideas on subject? 1st one said matter for parliament not judges as it concerns gvmnt protocol ! Yet 2nd one says boris was using it to stop MPs debating brexit? The same information was available on both occasions so was 2nd lot pro remain while 1st was brexiteers ?
Beats Me - what is going on mate ,We might have the best of 3 soon to sort it out !!
All i am saying is they should be in work sorting this mess out .
3 yrs to sort it out and still failed! What is point of extension to brexit when we know full well labour and others don't want Brexit and nothing will change even if get deal garauntee remain MPs will reject it? Now they force boris to publish yellow hammer just to force him to recall parliament for things that have been in public domain for a year or more total waste of time and scare mongering, all as been highlighted by remain after leave was announced....
I would like to know exactly what these Remainers want. They have got to except we are leaving and they have got to agree to a deal that makes it worthwhile leaving. It seems to me they are not willing to go that far.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:54 am
CCFCJosh75 wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:Jock wrote:Do you believe the EU is a democratic organisation?
Surely the question should be- Do you believe that the EU is undemocratic because the UK proposed something. And my answer to that question is of course not.
Typical remain dodging Rather than answer the question simply change it and rig the answer. Pathetic.
Think 'Jock' may be a leave voter.
Unless you're talking about me and are forgetting I asked the original question which I'm not sure you've actually answered yet. Glass houses and stones comes to mind here.
Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:04 am
pembroke allan wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Suspension Unlawful - More Mess - More Time wasted !!!
Get on with your jobs - what your paid to do !!!
What puzzles me us how can two courts have different ideas on subject? 1st one said matter for parliament not judges as it concerns gvmnt protocol ! Yet 2nd one says boris was using it to stop MPs debating brexit? The same information was available on both occasions so was 2nd lot pro remain while 1st was brexiteers ?