Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:52 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:56 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:01 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:26 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:32 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Please explain how Harris can be blamed for the pathetic attitudes of some of the players he's inherited? Harris can only select the players who are available to him.
Harris has inherited a bloated, slow, overpaid squad. Some players are past it now, some players don't have the correct attitude, some players simply aren't good enough. Like it or not, this is a squad Neil Warnock has built and the reason Warnock stepped down was because he realised the squad he's built isn't up to it.
Just like Russell Slade (who only lost 2 home games in his one and only full season with us), it's very popular to slate Neil Harris for everything, as he isn't the big, glamorous name certain fans wanted and he's seen as a cheap option.
Maybe Neil Harris is a cheap option, but he did a very good job at Millwall, taking them to an 8th placed finish in their first season back in the Championship and knocking out 3 Premiership teams on the way to the FA Cup quarter finals. Harris also achieved a club record 17 match unbeaten run with Millwall in their first season back in the Championship.
Based on Neil Harris' record at Millwall, it's obvious to see he is NOT out of his depth managing us at this level. Neil Harris has actually proven to be a very good manager at this level. What did everyone really expect? The same players who let Warnock down, the same players who lost to Reading 3-0 and the same players who lost derbies against Bristol City and Swansea are now letting Neil Harris down.
The problem isn't Neil Harris, the problem is the players. A mass clearout is required and Neil Harris needs time to assemble his own squad. Then, and only then will be an acceptable time to judge Neil Harris. No manager can achieve anything with our current squad of players. It's going to take a lot of time for any manager to turn things around.
It is no help criticising Neil Harris at this moment of time, he's only just entered his first transfer window with us and Tan has already said he has no money to spend. Let's try to keep supporting Neil Harris and see if he can improve us this transfer window.
Neil Harris deserves to be given a chance and the only way he can be given a fair chance is if he is given time to sort out the mess he's inherited.
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:33 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:39 pm
BAMBA CREW wrote:Serious question, had we appointed someone like Ancelloti (a stretch I know) would you want him out after the same results as Harris?
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:40 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Please explain how Harris can be blamed for the pathetic attitudes of some of the players he's inherited? Harris can only select the players who are available to him.
Harris has inherited a bloated, slow, overpaid squad. Some players are past it now, some players don't have the correct attitude, some players simply aren't good enough. Like it or not, this is a squad Neil Warnock has built and the reason Warnock stepped down was because he realised the squad he's built isn't up to it.
Just like Russell Slade (who only lost 2 home games in his one and only full season with us), it's very popular to slate Neil Harris for everything, as he isn't the big, glamorous name certain fans wanted and he's seen as a cheap option.
Maybe Neil Harris is a cheap option, but he did a very good job at Millwall, taking them to an 8th placed finish in their first season back in the Championship and knocking out 3 Premiership teams on the way to the FA Cup quarter finals. Harris also achieved a club record 17 match unbeaten run with Millwall in their first season back in the Championship.
Based on Neil Harris' record at Millwall, it's obvious to see he is NOT out of his depth managing us at this level. Neil Harris has actually proven to be a very good manager at this level. What did everyone really expect? The same players who let Warnock down, the same players who lost to Reading 3-0 and the same players who lost derbies against Bristol City and Swansea are now letting Neil Harris down.
The problem isn't Neil Harris, the problem is the players. A mass clearout is required and Neil Harris needs time to assemble his own squad. Then, and only then will be an acceptable time to judge Neil Harris. No manager can achieve anything with our current squad of players. It's going to take a lot of time for any manager to turn things around.
It is no help criticising Neil Harris at this moment of time, he's only just entered his first transfer window with us and Tan has already said he has no money to spend. Let's try to keep supporting Neil Harris and see if he can improve us this transfer window.
Neil Harris deserves to be given a chance and the only way he can be given a fair chance is if he is given time to sort out the mess he's inherited.
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:42 pm
JJ1927 wrote:BAMBA CREW wrote:Serious question, had we appointed someone like Ancelloti (a stretch I know) would you want him out after the same results as Harris?
I have sympathy for Harris and until last week his record if not the style was ok, if a bit fortunate. But his appointment says everything about the lack of ambition at the club. Cheap option.
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:44 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:48 pm
Bluehants wrote:BAMBA CREW wrote:Serious question, had we appointed someone like Ancelloti (a stretch I know) would you want him out after the same results as Harris?[/quote
That’s a ridiculous comparison, but at least Ancelloti has had a sustained and multiple periods of success so it might be reasonable to expect things to come good.
Harris hasn’t...there is nothing on his CV to suggest he will be a good manager or that he can be a successful.
Let’s not forget, his appointment was supposed to be someone who could step in and kick the current squad on - evolution not revolution. There is no sign of evolution at all. Nigel Person hasn’t had a transfer window, but he has transformed Watford. Gary Rowett also hadn’t, but he has taken Millwall from relegation spots to play offs.
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:48 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:49 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:54 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:59 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:59 pm
BAMBA CREW wrote:Bluehants wrote:BAMBA CREW wrote:Serious question, had we appointed someone like Ancelloti (a stretch I know) would you want him out after the same results as Harris?[/quote
That’s a ridiculous comparison, but at least Ancelloti has had a sustained and multiple periods of success so it might be reasonable to expect things to come good.
Harris hasn’t...there is nothing on his CV to suggest he will be a good manager or that he can be a successful.
Let’s not forget, his appointment was supposed to be someone who could step in and kick the current squad on - evolution not revolution. There is no sign of evolution at all. Nigel Person hasn’t had a transfer window, but he has transformed Watford. Gary Rowett also hadn’t, but he has taken Millwall from relegation spots to play offs.
Our form, apart from QPR have improved though. Beat Swansea and everyone will be happy again, I think we're a very reactive fan base (especially on here)
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:00 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:01 pm
BarryWelsh88 wrote:Look at the comments all over the official fb page...
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:11 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:16 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Please explain how Harris can be blamed for the pathetic attitudes of some of the players he's inherited? Harris can only select the players who are available to him.
Harris has inherited a bloated, slow, overpaid squad. Some players are past it now, some players don't have the correct attitude, some players simply aren't good enough. Like it or not, this is a squad Neil Warnock has built and the reason Warnock stepped down was because he realised the squad he's built isn't up to it.
Just like Russell Slade (who only lost 2 home games in his one and only full season with us), it's very popular to slate Neil Harris for everything, as he isn't the big, glamorous name certain fans wanted and he's seen as a cheap option.
Maybe Neil Harris is a cheap option, but he did a very good job at Millwall, taking them to an 8th placed finish in their first season back in the Championship and knocking out 3 Premiership teams on the way to the FA Cup quarter finals. Harris also achieved a club record 17 match unbeaten run with Millwall in their first season back in the Championship.
Based on Neil Harris' record at Millwall, it's obvious to see he is NOT out of his depth managing us at this level. Neil Harris has actually proven to be a very good manager at this level. What did everyone really expect? The same players who let Warnock down, the same players who lost to Reading 3-0 and the same players who lost derbies against Bristol City and Swansea are now letting Neil Harris down.
The problem isn't Neil Harris, the problem is the players. A mass clearout is required and Neil Harris needs time to assemble his own squad. Then, and only then will be an acceptable time to judge Neil Harris. No manager can achieve anything with our current squad of players. It's going to take a lot of time for any manager to turn things around.
It is no help criticising Neil Harris at this moment of time, he's only just entered his first transfer window with us and Tan has already said he has no money to spend. Let's try to keep supporting Neil Harris and see if he can improve us this transfer window.
Neil Harris deserves to be given a chance and the only way he can be given a fair chance is if he is given time to sort out the mess he's inherited.
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:39 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:40 pm
BarryWelsh88 wrote:Look at the comments all over the official fb page...
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:46 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 6:54 pm
montyblue wrote:FOGHORN 65
really. "yes" the fans have turned did you see how many where in the canton ?end
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:02 pm
montyblue wrote:FOGHORN 65
really. "yes" the fans have turned did you see how many where in the canton ?end
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:14 pm
BarryWelsh88 wrote:Look at the comments all over the official fb page...
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:14 pm
BarryWelsh88 wrote:Harris needs to go surely
Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:28 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:05 pm
Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:06 pm