Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:53 am
Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:07 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:51 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:11 pm
caerblue wrote:Time to sell him,we can’t afford to carry a player for half a season hoping he’d come good,our style of football ain’t suited to him,
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:16 pm
bluesince62 wrote:caerblue wrote:Time to sell him,we can’t afford to carry a player for half a season hoping he’d come good,our style of football ain’t suited to him,
Well we tried to play some football yesterday,he failed to take a beat his man so many times and failed,ran the ball out of play a couple of times,to the delight of the reading fans who must of thought they had misread his price tag of 11m!! My concern is when he loses the ball,he loses interest,rather shake his head, and punch his hand in frustration than try and win the ball, back,he cuts a forlorn figure of late,maybe contributing to his "lack of interest" as some punchers have aluded to previously.my biggest concern is if we decide to sell him,is the huge financial hit we may well have to take on him.the way we set up yesterday,to have a real go at them,I thought he could have shone,but he just ain't cutting the mustard for us,a real shame.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:16 pm
caerblue wrote:Time to sell him,we can’t afford to carry a player for half a season hoping he’d come good,our style of football ain’t suited to him,
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:20 pm
bluesince62 wrote:caerblue wrote:Time to sell him,we can’t afford to carry a player for half a season hoping he’d come good,our style of football ain’t suited to him,
Well we tried to play some football yesterday,he failed to take a beat his man so many times and failed,ran the ball out of play a couple of times,to the delight of the reading fans who must of thought they had misread his price tag of 11m!! My concern is when he loses the ball,he loses interest,rather shake his head, and punch his hand in frustration than try and win the ball, back,he cuts a forlorn figure of late,maybe contributing to his "lack of interest" as some punchers have aluded to previously.my biggest concern is if we decide to sell him,is the huge financial hit we may well have to take on him.the way we set up yesterday,to have a real go at them,I thought he could have shone,but he just ain't cutting the mustard for us,a real shame.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:28 pm
llan bluebird wrote:He is clearly at the wrong club and definitely in the wrong system.
He is not a midfielder in a 442, Whyte is, so is Holiett now he has lost a yard of pace.
Josh is a wide forward in a team trying to win a game as opposed to not losing it.
We keep asking him to do things he isn't particularly good at, he is not tough, in fact diametrically opposite, but we knew that when WARNOCK bought him. Someone like Dave Jones, I could see him look at the positives and planning a game plan around them, Warnock tried to make him something he can't be and along with Harris have ruined him.
Warnocks and Harris's underdog mentality is so limiting. We act like we are Luton or Barnsley, but we have been in the premier league twice in the last 7 seasons !!!!!
Feel sorry for the lad. He is not that great, but not as bad as we are currently witnessing. In a team like Brentford he would flourish
Its a case of how much we are willing to lose, same with Glatzel.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:30 pm
JJ1927 wrote:caerblue wrote:Time to sell him,we can’t afford to carry a player for half a season hoping he’d come good,our style of football ain’t suited to him,
He was truly shocking yesterday and it was nothing to with our style of football. Hoillet tore them apart when he came on. Sad to see because his confidence appeared in shreds, so much so that he appeared to want to come off to escape.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:31 pm
RICK+CCFC wrote:llan bluebird wrote:He is clearly at the wrong club and definitely in the wrong system.
He is not a midfielder in a 442, Whyte is, so is Holiett now he has lost a yard of pace.
Josh is a wide forward in a team trying to win a game as opposed to not losing it.
We keep asking him to do things he isn't particularly good at, he is not tough, in fact diametrically opposite, but we knew that when WARNOCK bought him. Someone like Dave Jones, I could see him look at the positives and planning a game plan around them, Warnock tried to make him something he can't be and along with Harris have ruined him.
Warnocks and Harris's underdog mentality is so limiting. We act like we are Luton or Barnsley, but we have been in the premier league twice in the last 7 seasons !!!!!
Feel sorry for the lad. He is not that great, but not as bad as we are currently witnessing. In a team like Brentford he would flourish
Its a case of how much we are willing to lose, same with Glatzel.
I get the distinct impression that he doesn't want to be here, & that he's just going through the motions. I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves at the end of this window, with Glatzel also following him out...
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:34 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:45 pm
BluebirdForever wrote:What doesn't make sense is that our fans are totally against Harris, totally against his style of play and cry out for us to be playing more attractive football.
At the same time, they suggest that we sell our players with flair like Josh Murphy so that we can get better at playing this style of football
Our fans like to be critics in everything, but in reality they have no idea what they want.
On a side note, Murphy's cross to Flint for the assist in Paterson's goal was fantastic - inch perfect. I think Murphy should be on set pieces like corners and indirect free kicks (Tomlin should take the direct free kicks). A lot of confidence can be gained from taking set pieces IMO. Alternatively, he's not got the physicality to be in the box. I like all of our wingers - Hoilett, Whyte, NML and Murphy but I think my first two choices would be Hoilett and Murphy
Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:00 pm
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Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:08 pm
boyo1927 wrote:Murphy was so poor yesterday didnt get stuck in at all. Could beat his man and generally looked like he didnt want to be there. Tbf he was not booed off by the fans. Problem is the club invested a huge sum of money and who would pay anymore than 3m
Sun Jan 26, 2020 5:26 pm
maccydee wrote:boyo1927 wrote:Murphy was so poor yesterday didnt get stuck in at all. Could beat his man and generally looked like he didnt want to be there. Tbf he was not booed off by the fans. Problem is the club invested a huge sum of money and who would pay anymore than 3m
He did get stuck in. A few slide tackles. Harris gave him a huge gee up after one good tackle.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:01 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:01 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:34 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Murphy is becoming a bit of a disgrace.
Yes, confidence plays a big part in football but there is no excuse for not getting stuck in and busting a gut for the team.
He has bags of skill but I’m sick of his body language and the fact that he doesn’t want to know a lot of the time.
He’s like a wet weekend and tackles like a pussy. That’s nothing to do with confidence.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:51 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:46 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Murphy is becoming a bit of a disgrace.
Yes, confidence plays a big part in football but there is no excuse for not getting stuck in and busting a gut for the team.
He has bags of skill but I’m sick of his body language and the fact that he doesn’t want to know a lot of the time.
He’s like a wet weekend and tackles like a pussy. That’s nothing to do with confidence.
Sun Jan 26, 2020 10:49 pm
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:13 pm
moonboots wrote:Last season and in previous seasons for Norwich Murphy's main asset was his electric pace. He would push the ball beyond the fullback and simply steam past them. Yesterday, and in other games this season, he pushed the ball beyond the fullback but didn't manage to get clear enough of him in order to whip in a cross. Can't really understand it myself. Surely he hasn't lost pace. No mention of carrying an injury, so I'm not sure what the reason is. Does s lack of confidence make you run slower? I doubt it.
Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:00 am
Alan_in_China wrote:moonboots wrote:Last season and in previous seasons for Norwich Murphy's main asset was his electric pace. He would push the ball beyond the fullback and simply steam past them. Yesterday, and in other games this season, he pushed the ball beyond the fullback but didn't manage to get clear enough of him in order to whip in a cross. Can't really understand it myself. Surely he hasn't lost pace. No mention of carrying an injury, so I'm not sure what the reason is. Does s lack of confidence make you run slower? I doubt it.
Good point you raised. I can understand your touch deserting you when you're short of confidence, also your decision making. However, like yourself I can't understand why he no longer seems to have that extra yard of pace, that just requires effort, right?
He shapes up as if he's going to skin his man but he's easily tracked by the defender.
Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:33 am
JJ1927 wrote:caerblue wrote:Time to sell him,we can’t afford to carry a player for half a season hoping he’d come good,our style of football ain’t suited to him,
He was truly shocking yesterday and it was nothing to with our style of football. Hoillet tore them apart when he came on. Sad to see because his confidence appeared in shreds, so much so that he appeared to want to come off to escape.
Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:29 am
rhysn81 wrote:Definitely a confidence player. Us getting on his back doesn’t help the matter. I agree he seemed awful yesterday but seemed to be working his socks off maybe trying to hard. The main problem is we the fans know how talented the guy is and that’s the reason we get on his back so much we expect more from him. I can’t help but remember the Newcastle game last season where he took the piss out of their fullback which resulted in him being taken off. Get back to that josh and we will be back on your side!
Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:55 am