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Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:43 pm

dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
dogfound wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Was this not settled in court years ago? And why years later he's suppose to be claiming 15m ? Was it not 15m that was/should been paid after court case? He always seem to be screwing clubs he owned out of money one way or other like Wimbledon :shock: :o



apart from taking a non league club the the prem
what did he do at Wimbledon ?



Lose them their ground so he could make a few million ! :o


Wimbledon were league 4 when Sam arrived took them to Top flight football with home gates of 4,000 & away support of sometimes 20 fans, always in Top 10 and beat Liverpool FA Cup Final and was never ever relegated.
It went wrong for Wimbledon under new owners Norwegians.
I have been up there on many many occasions and the majority of fans love Sam still, just a few like you down here who don't.

Funny before Sam came to Cardiff our crowds were 3,000. Later on the main moaners were the new glory hunters, were you one of them Allan? :lol:



yes ive met Wimbledon fans that love him too.. and ones that blame him for anything and everything.. including selling that ground that was of little use to their club and which he not Wimbledon owned..



Exactly :thumbright: :thumbright:



they were playing at Selhurst Park in the top tier.. a new ground had been a topic for a number of years but not a new ground built on Plough Lane as it was not suitable...Sam sold 80% of Wimbledon and later sold Plough Lane. listen to some and they make it sound like he had sold the ground they played on..
I know this. if Sam had not come here the chances are id still be watching mid table 4th division football. there would be no CCS and none of us would know who Vincent Tan is... and as you hinted at in a previous post there really were not many of us that actually remember where we were and how hopeless it was..



Spot on and a very honest and true post :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluebird: :bluebird:


Cardiff City were League 4 in debt on the verge of bankruptcy, Ninian Park in a terrible state, crowds of 3,500 and NO one wanted us.

We had not had the Success Sam gave us, for for over 40 years at least.

I would say 85% of the fans at Cardiff City are there nowadays due to Sam Hammam taking over Cardiff City and taking us on an unbelievable journey.

Atmosphere was bouncing once Sam took over.

99% of the fans I have met who slate Sam were not there the season before Sam came when I ask them were they attending.

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:35 pm

Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:37 pm

RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:41 pm

The place changed when Sam took over, it was an exciting time and we all began to dream a little bit, the sleeping giant syndrome etc. And I for one loved those times, Welsh Army! Sheeps testicles!

He made some mistakes, but I genuinely believe he went all out to make us a bigger and better football club and thats not easy from the position he found us in, if he is rightly owed money , then yes do it, just hope its not 15 million!!!!!! :oops:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:46 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:58 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:59 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:


Allan/Roathie the Stalker is back :lol:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:10 pm

tangledupinblue wrote:The place changed when Sam took over, it was an exciting time and we all began to dream a little bit, the sleeping giant syndrome etc. And I for one loved those times, Welsh Army! Sheeps testicles!

He made some mistakes, but I genuinely believe he went all out to make us a bigger and better football club and thats not easy from the position he found us in, if he is rightly owed money , then yes do it, just hope its not 15 million!!!!!! :oops:

Cant be 15 only 7 was outstanding 5 million was paid of it end of February 2016 with 2 million to be paid on promotion to the premier league, last years account s show 23 million of promotion bonuses at the end of 2018 the season we went up be interesting to see the breakdown of the payments a d if langstone got there 2 million for final settlement

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:27 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:


Allan/Roathie the Stalker is back :lol:



Thanks annis (I think) :lol:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:


Perhaps Langston is annis? :lol:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:37 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:


Perhaps Langston is annis? :lol:


Perhaps Stalker / you will never know Allan aka Roathie :lol:

Ive not forgot how low you went to get browny points the other day regarding Sala, you can go pretty low :evil:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:46 pm

There’s obviously a lot more too it then Sam Hammam wanting 15 million for some bullshit made up nothing title.

Why would either side waste there time on something like that?

Anybody who believe’s it is just being dumb.

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:46 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:


Perhaps Langston is annis? :lol:

Annis wants his diluted share income :lol: annis to sue the club is next headline :lol:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:46 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:


Perhaps Langston is annis? :lol:


Perhaps Stalker / you will never know Allan aka Roathie :lol:

Ive not forgot how low you went to get browny points the other day regarding Sala, you can go pretty low :evil:



That didnt come out way I meant it but then we all make mistakes dont we? And what is with this roathie crap :twisted:

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:49 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:


Perhaps Langston is annis? :lol:


Perhaps Stalker / you will never know Allan aka Roathie :lol:

Ive not forgot how low you went to get browny points the other day regarding Sala, you can go pretty low :evil:



That didnt come out way I meant it but then we all make mistakes dont we? And what is with this roathie crap :twisted:


For me you should how low you will go to get one over another poster.

Yes your my official stalker.

And yes your like Roathie on every topic derailing them.

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:49 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:There’s obviously a lot more too it then Sam Hammam wanting 15 million for some bullshit made up nothing title.

Why would either side waste there time on something like that?

Anybody who believe’s it is just being dumb.

The only payment left was a 2 million pound promotion bonus when we went up but we paid 23 million pound in players bonus and other non players contractual payments in the 2018 season I suspect that the 2 million was paid in that and its total bullshit that we owe any more monies to langstone

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:54 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:There’s obviously a lot more too it then Sam Hammam wanting 15 million for some bullshit made up nothing title.

Why would either side waste there time on something like that?

Anybody who believe’s it is just being dumb.

The only payment left was a 2 million pound promotion bonus when we went up but we paid 23 million pound in players bonus and other non players contractual payments in the 2018 season I suspect that the 2 million was paid in that and its total bullshit that we owe any more monies to langstone


Llan Blue, Correct :thumbright:

As i have always said, lets wait and see the outcome as usual / Tan has lost every case so far.

My next comments will be after the outcome of this one.

The Courts will decide once again with Tan always involved in them.

My final word on the matter.

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 10:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Llan_Blue wrote:There’s obviously a lot more too it then Sam Hammam wanting 15 million for some bullshit made up nothing title.

Why would either side waste there time on something like that?

Anybody who believe’s it is just being dumb.

The only payment left was a 2 million pound promotion bonus when we went up but we paid 23 million pound in players bonus and other non players contractual payments in the 2018 season I suspect that the 2 million was paid in that and its total bullshit that we owe any more monies to langstone


Llan Blue, Correct :thumbright:

As i have always said, lets wait and see the outcome as usual / Tan has lost every case so far.

My next comments will be after the outcome of this one.

The Courts will decide once again with Tan always involved in them.

My final word on the matter.

So are you saying the 2 million promotion payment wasnt paid ? As all the other payments were

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:00 pm

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00109065 all Cardiff city accounts are in the filing history

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:20 pm

wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:



so if Sam loans the club money its ok to not pay him back
but if VT loans the club money paying him back is fine..
don't get the reasoning wez..

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:31 pm

dogfound wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Sam started our journey, he will always be remembered fondly by me, he wasn't perfect but who is?


Spot on Steve :thumbright: :thumbright:

Sam is still owed money and it was ordered he should of been paid by the High Court, so for me thats it end off :thumbright:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992



Trouble is sam claiming money for him or Langston ? :lol:

Both are the same :lol:



so if Sam loans the club money its ok to not pay him back
but if VT loans the club money paying him back is fine..
don't get the reasoning wez..

Sam ran up debts paying himself and his brother ,Langstone then borrowed the club 24 million in loan notes with massive interest whilst claiming it wasnt his company he lied to everyone ,tan has written off 10s of millions of pounds ,paid off pmg,langstone, hardly the same ,and I don't think tan has got a chance of getting his money back ,if sam hasnt had the 2 million agreed promotion bonus then the club should pay it but he had had all the over monies in the settlement I've proved in links on this thread and in others that only 2 million was owed to langstone in a form of a promotion bonus any one who says different is lying or has been given false information

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:48 pm

Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:56 pm

Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?

Friends with Sam they are ,why if langstone wasnt paid off as per settlement beginning of Feb 2016 and also the final payment as announced by the club and the media end of February 2016 has it taken 4 years to speak up or is it just bullshit hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:01 am

Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?



im not protective other than trying to be fair.. I don't do this jumping on a bandwagon and taking sides nonsense
im just being honest about it mate. you can not use different criteria for one owner to another.. if Sam is owed money ,well he is owed it.. people accept VT being owed cash ..
as for Sams time here.. he pushed the club forward like it hadn't been for years.. and I will always be grateful for that. VT wouldn't even have heard about us let alone bought us without Sams enthusiasm and ambitions for the club.
he did a hell of a lot more good than harm here.

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:03 am

wez1927 wrote:
Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?

Friends with Sam they are ,why if langstone wasnt paid off as per settlement beginning of Feb 2016 and also the final payment as announced by the club and the media end of February 2016 has it taken 4 years to speak up or is it just bullshit hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



see. petty side taking nonsense..
if he has been paid he will lose in court..?
and no im not a friend of Sam..met him a few times but no doubt you have too

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:05 am

dogfound wrote:
Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?



im not protective other than trying to be fair.. I don't do this jumping on a bandwagon and taking sides nonsense
im just being honest about it mate. you can not use different criteria for one owner to another.. if Sam is owed money ,well he is owed it.. people accept VT being owed cash ..
as for Sams time here.. he pushed the club forward like it hadn't been for years.. and I will always be grateful for that. VT wouldn't even have heard about us let alone bought us without Sams enthusiasm and ambitions for the club.
he did a hell of a lot more good than harm here.


So it’s sams fault the mess we in? He pushed for the Malaysians?
For me personally I’m grateful that both have been invoked in our club. But can never forgive Sam for wanting to kill our club.

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:11 am

Pennydarrenblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?



im not protective other than trying to be fair.. I don't do this jumping on a bandwagon and taking sides nonsense
im just being honest about it mate. you can not use different criteria for one owner to another.. if Sam is owed money ,well he is owed it.. people accept VT being owed cash ..
as for Sams time here.. he pushed the club forward like it hadn't been for years.. and I will always be grateful for that. VT wouldn't even have heard about us let alone bought us without Sams enthusiasm and ambitions for the club.
he did a hell of a lot more good than harm here.


So it’s sams fault the mess we in? He pushed for the Malaysians?
For me personally I’m grateful that both have been invoked in our club. But can never forgive Sam for wanting to kill our club.

What mess are we in ?

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:15 am

dogfound wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?

Friends with Sam they are ,why if langstone wasnt paid off as per settlement beginning of Feb 2016 and also the final payment as announced by the club and the media end of February 2016 has it taken 4 years to speak up or is it just bullshit hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm



see. petty side taking nonsense..
if he has been paid he will lose in court..?
and no im not a friend of Sam..met him a few times but no doubt you have too

I said if hes owed the 2 million promotion payment he should get it but all other monies have been paid this is a fact ,to suggests otherwise is wrong ,I dont know if bonus is paid or not but I know the cash settlement amounts were ,he might be owed 2 million or he might not theres no breakdown of the 23 million pound of playing and non playing contract payments in the 2018 accounts

Re: Sam hammam suing ccfc for 15 million

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:15 am

wez1927 wrote:
Pennydarrenblue wrote:
dogfound wrote:
Pennydarrenblue wrote:Am I missing something here why dogfound and forever blue so protective of Sam?



im not protective other than trying to be fair.. I don't do this jumping on a bandwagon and taking sides nonsense
im just being honest about it mate. you can not use different criteria for one owner to another.. if Sam is owed money ,well he is owed it.. people accept VT being owed cash ..
as for Sams time here.. he pushed the club forward like it hadn't been for years.. and I will always be grateful for that. VT wouldn't even have heard about us let alone bought us without Sams enthusiasm and ambitions for the club.
he did a hell of a lot more good than harm here.


So it’s sams fault the mess we in? He pushed for the Malaysians?
For me personally I’m grateful that both have been invoked in our club. But can never forgive Sam for wanting to kill our club.

What mess are we in ?



what mess ?
how many millions are we in debt Wez.. its like the never ending gob stopper..