Sat May 23, 2020 12:21 pm
Sat May 23, 2020 12:45 pm
Sat May 23, 2020 12:50 pm
EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Sat May 23, 2020 1:26 pm
EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Sat May 23, 2020 1:54 pm
Jock wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
If CMOs don’t follow guidelines why should anyone else.
Sat May 23, 2020 1:55 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
Sat May 23, 2020 2:08 pm
TopCat CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
I thought that Spain were going to put some kind of tests for people coming into Spain mate ?
Sat May 23, 2020 2:24 pm
Forever Blue wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
I thought that Spain were going to put some kind of tests for people coming into Spain mate ?
Sat May 23, 2020 5:15 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
I thought that Spain were going to put some kind of tests for people coming into Spain mate ?
Tony,
Sadly they have just announced UK will have to have got a lot better than they are now before being considered]
Annis
Isn't it a bit irrelevant what other countries do regarding travel for uk citizens as people won't be going anywhere abroad if got to be isolated for 14days on returning to uk and in some cases isolated in country go to? But doesnt alter fact uk seem to be doing everything arse backwards and horse as already bolted..
Sat May 23, 2020 5:44 pm
epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
I thought that Spain were going to put some kind of tests for people coming into Spain mate ?
Tony,
Sadly they have just announced UK will have to have got a lot better than they are now before being considered]
Annis
Isn't it a bit irrelevant what other countries do regarding travel for uk citizens as people won't be going anywhere abroad if got to be isolated for 14days on returning to uk and in some cases isolated in country go to? But doesnt alter fact uk seem to be doing everything arse backwards and horse as already bolted..
I don't see many Brits going on holiday to the med this year whether or not they're quarantined at home on their return. The only thing this kept this in check is the shutting down, isolation , social distancing etc. The areas of Europe that did this well are about to throw all that away and welcome visitors from anywhere. What gives them the confidence that they can manage this with thousands of tourists ?
Sat May 23, 2020 6:07 pm
Sat May 23, 2020 7:52 pm
skidemin wrote:epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
I thought that Spain were going to put some kind of tests for people coming into Spain mate ?
Tony,
Sadly they have just announced UK will have to have got a lot better than they are now before being considered]
Annis
Isn't it a bit irrelevant what other countries do regarding travel for uk citizens as people won't be going anywhere abroad if got to be isolated for 14days on returning to uk and in some cases isolated in country go to? But doesnt alter fact uk seem to be doing everything arse backwards and horse as already bolted..
I don't see many Brits going on holiday to the med this year whether or not they're quarantined at home on their return. The only thing this kept this in check is the shutting down, isolation , social distancing etc. The areas of Europe that did this well are about to throw all that away and welcome visitors from anywhere. What gives them the confidence that they can manage this with thousands of tourists ?
and in there you have modern days biggest mystery...
how does a country decide to go into a very strict lockdown on a day they have had 1100 new cases and 67 deaths...
yet now think its going to be safe for tourism …………………….on a day they have had 1700 new cases and 50 odd deaths.
ive used Spain as an example but every one is loosening lockdowns on worse figures than when they locked down...
do lockdown cure the virus..or were they not required ?
Sat May 23, 2020 11:01 pm
Forever Blue wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Spot on.
Sat May 23, 2020 11:33 pm
pembroke allan wrote:skidemin wrote:epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Complete Madness by Boris Johnson
Balearic Islands ( Mallorca/Ibiza/Minorca/ Formentera etc) : Yesterday No deaths and only 2 cases here overnight. YET Boris Johnson wants to quarantine us, it should be the other way around, Madness.
I thought that Spain were going to put some kind of tests for people coming into Spain mate ?
Tony,
Sadly they have just announced UK will have to have got a lot better than they are now before being considered]
Annis
Isn't it a bit irrelevant what other countries do regarding travel for uk citizens as people won't be going anywhere abroad if got to be isolated for 14days on returning to uk and in some cases isolated in country go to? But doesnt alter fact uk seem to be doing everything arse backwards and horse as already bolted..
I don't see many Brits going on holiday to the med this year whether or not they're quarantined at home on their return. The only thing this kept this in check is the shutting down, isolation , social distancing etc. The areas of Europe that did this well are about to throw all that away and welcome visitors from anywhere. What gives them the confidence that they can manage this with thousands of tourists ?
and in there you have modern days biggest mystery...
how does a country decide to go into a very strict lockdown on a day they have had 1100 new cases and 67 deaths...
yet now think its going to be safe for tourism …………………….on a day they have had 1700 new cases and 50 odd deaths.
ive used Spain as an example but every one is loosening lockdowns on worse figures than when they locked down...
do lockdown cure the virus..or were they not required ?
It's a question that some experts say wasnt required but what was required was the protection of elderly in homes and vulnerable people with health issues! A bbc health reporter had several anti body tests that were positive yet no sighn of corvid was displayed? So if you believe what experts was saying that hundreds of thousands have had corvid without symptoms was all the measures actually worth it?
Sun May 24, 2020 8:56 am
bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Spot on.
Quick question Annis, on another topic you said you liked boris,is that still the case? For me,he has gone down in my estimation from 8 at the end of week one,to a four ,and now after today,and his backing for a rule dodging buddy,a 1 and he's lucky to get that!! The man is a bloody idiot, and it's cost this country massively.
Sun May 24, 2020 9:21 am
Sun May 24, 2020 9:31 am
Sun May 24, 2020 9:33 am
Foghorn65 wrote:FB
There is NO RULE at all. Boris is floundering and failing to lead. Granted he has been seriously ill and has a new born child but he has returned to work and needs to stand up and be counted!
That supercilious advisor Cummings was involved in the drawing up of the lockdown guidelines YET flouted then!!
We need strong leadership to hammer home the united message to help save us from thiscatastrophic pandemic rampaging the nation.
Sun May 24, 2020 9:38 am
Sun May 24, 2020 11:26 am
ManInBlack wrote:Its all about virus control..in the early days when the infection rate was climbing and the R rate was high...governments don't know if their health service can cope. So full lockdown. Now as the rates are decreasing and they know the health service has capacity, the lockdown can be eased. That's why even with infections at 3000 lockdown can be eased because the graphs are falling. If they start climbing again then we could be back into lock down. The big problem now is getting service running and the economy back or there'll be far more deaths.
Sun May 24, 2020 12:13 pm
Sun May 24, 2020 12:42 pm
Panzermouse wrote:Can you imagine if Thatcher was in charge now? Whatever anyone's opinions were of her at least she'd have got her cabinet by the scruff to sort this out. She was if anything, thorough. Johnson by comparison is a lazy, floundering man who's surrounded himself with incompetent ministers. A man who hides from the British public when the going gets tough and sends his minions out to take the flak instead.
Sun May 24, 2020 12:57 pm
skidemin wrote:Panzermouse wrote:Can you imagine if Thatcher was in charge now? Whatever anyone's opinions were of her at least she'd have got her cabinet by the scruff to sort this out. She was if anything, thorough. Johnson by comparison is a lazy, floundering man who's surrounded himself with incompetent ministers. A man who hides from the British public when the going gets tough and sends his minions out to take the flak instead.
I dunno mate...
protests in Spain calling for Sanchez to go
Macrone has taken loads of stick as has Trump
even Merkel is getting it...
people just love blame..
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Sun May 24, 2020 1:22 pm
skidemin wrote:Panzermouse wrote:Can you imagine if Thatcher was in charge now? Whatever anyone's opinions were of her at least she'd have got her cabinet by the scruff to sort this out. She was if anything, thorough. Johnson by comparison is a lazy, floundering man who's surrounded himself with incompetent ministers. A man who hides from the British public when the going gets tough and sends his minions out to take the flak instead.
I dunno mate...
protests in Spain calling for Sanchez to go
Macrone has taken loads of stick as has Trump
even Merkel is getting it...
people just love blame..
While I agree that it's not possible to please everyone and I've no idea of public sentiment in Spain at all.
Merkel has a massive 72% approval rating according to a survey in Deutsche Welle.
Macron I think has been slipping steadily for a long time before this virus.
Everyone gets blamed at some point but generally it's due to being crap.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=214975
Sun May 24, 2020 1:26 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Also Boris, always in hiding, never out there defending any problems caused by his own aids, leaves it to others.
Sun May 24, 2020 6:35 pm
Sun May 24, 2020 7:29 pm
Mon May 25, 2020 12:05 am
Forever Blue wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Spot on.
Quick question Annis, on another topic you said you liked boris,is that still the case? For me,he has gone down in my estimation from 8 at the end of week one,to a four ,and now after today,and his backing for a rule dodging buddy,a 1 and he's lucky to get that!! The man is a bloody idiot, and it's cost this country massively.
Andrew, No I dont like him anymore due to his continual terrible decisions, his dithering, no strictness, leaving many in the Country unsure what really are the rules and for me he has to sack Dominic Cummins, to keep any respect that some still have of him.
Plus for me, there is NO rule anymore in the Uk, Boris/Govt have lost all control with the people due to their softly/happy/happy control.
Plus, Boris always late in everything from lockdown to now the new arriving in the Country after 8th June etc etc Pathetic
Mon May 25, 2020 6:37 am
bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Spot on.
Quick question Annis, on another topic you said you liked boris,is that still the case? For me,he has gone down in my estimation from 8 at the end of week one,to a four ,and now after today,and his backing for a rule dodging buddy,a 1 and he's lucky to get that!! The man is a bloody idiot, and it's cost this country massively.
Andrew, No I dont like him anymore due to his continual terrible decisions, his dithering, no strictness, leaving many in the Country unsure what really are the rules and for me he has to sack Dominic Cummins, to keep any respect that some still have of him.
Plus for me, there is NO rule anymore in the Uk, Boris/Govt have lost all control with the people due to their softly/happy/happy control.
Plus, Boris always late in everything from lockdown to now the new arriving in the Country after 8th June etc etc Pathetic
Cheers for being honest but as I have been saying all along,the poxy way the fine system for rule breaking was set up,it was only bound to fail!! I quoted on "how well" (not) that has worked with mobile phone use while driving! Yes we have an underbelly of morons who would take no notice,but if he had been stricter,he may have lessened the numbers willing to push the boundaries,of what was a week arsed attempt from the 2nd week on of enforcing lockdown effectively.plus we don't have the police to man it,so why the f @cm wasn't the army utilised? It's not as if we are at war,and they are too busy! And this last episode should show those who back him no matter what,he has proven he is not fit to lead this country,especially when there's a major crisis! I haven't had face to face contact as such with my own mother,as she is in the very high risk category, due to contracting tb as a child, which has lead to severe copd,she has been in lockdown for 10 weeks now,and hasn't left her home in that time,I don't personally believe all around covid,but still respect my mother enough as to not put her at any increased risk! What Cummings has done,is like having a shit ridden nappy rubbed in my face!! And as for bungle backing zippy today,I'm fuming!
Mon May 25, 2020 11:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bluesince62 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:EastleighBlue wrote:A shambles of a policy and and he shamelessly backs his top adviser who broke the law and the 'lockdown' rules. Why should anyone bother with the rules in this country anymore? No one is, including those in charge.
Spot on.
Quick question Annis, on another topic you said you liked boris,is that still the case? For me,he has gone down in my estimation from 8 at the end of week one,to a four ,and now after today,and his backing for a rule dodging buddy,a 1 and he's lucky to get that!! The man is a bloody idiot, and it's cost this country massively.
Andrew, No I dont like him anymore due to his continual terrible decisions, his dithering, no strictness, leaving many in the Country unsure what really are the rules and for me he has to sack Dominic Cummins, to keep any respect that some still have of him.
Plus for me, there is NO rule anymore in the Uk, Boris/Govt have lost all control with the people due to their softly/happy/happy control.
Plus, Boris always late in everything from lockdown to now the new arriving in the Country after 8th June etc etc Pathetic
Cheers for being honest but as I have been saying all along,the poxy way the fine system for rule breaking was set up,it was only bound to fail!! I quoted on "how well" (not) that has worked with mobile phone use while driving! Yes we have an underbelly of morons who would take no notice,but if he had been stricter,he may have lessened the numbers willing to push the boundaries,of what was a week arsed attempt from the 2nd week on of enforcing lockdown effectively.plus we don't have the police to man it,so why the f @cm wasn't the army utilised? It's not as if we are at war,and they are too busy! And this last episode should show those who back him no matter what,he has proven he is not fit to lead this country,especially when there's a major crisis! I haven't had face to face contact as such with my own mother,as she is in the very high risk category, due to contracting tb as a child, which has lead to severe copd,she has been in lockdown for 10 weeks now,and hasn't left her home in that time,I don't personally believe all around covid,but still respect my mother enough as to not put her at any increased risk! What Cummings has done,is like having a shit ridden nappy rubbed in my face!! And as for bungle backing zippy today,I'm fuming!
Thank you, but so sorry to hear Andrew.
A lot of what your saying is what I was saying from day one.
I hope you get to see your Mother soon and can soon give her a big hug